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Salacious Angel
Pie is pie if and only if cake. If cake is lie pie cannot be not lie. Cakes are circles (square cakes are squakes and outside the domain of this discussion). If cake is lie then there is no circle and therefore no pie; pie equals circle. Therefore not only cake, but also geometry is lie.
Nomadic
It seems that way yes but it gives a good idea of how tightly packed medieval cities were and why a 10x10 mile city is astoundingly gigantic for the time period
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I just did some cleaning up of the Fantasy Book Ratings in the wiki...unfortunately, I didn't finish. Too much code turns my brain to mush.
Llum
Really Nomadic? Discounting suburbs (since they lack vehicles). Just seems counter-intuitive, comparing the populations of back then to now.
Ghostman
Nomadic: "family of 4 on average" seems to me like a major underestimation for medieval norms. Consider that
a) anyone who lives old enough to be a grandparent is likely to live under the same roof as their children and grandchildren, and
b) There has to be plenty of young ones because some of them will die before maturity.
Not that any of this has to hold true in a fictional setting, such as Celtricia...
a) anyone who lives old enough to be a grandparent is likely to live under the same roof as their children and grandchildren, and
b) There has to be plenty of young ones because some of them will die before maturity.
Not that any of this has to hold true in a fictional setting, such as Celtricia...
Nomadic
tldr version: modern density is much lower than medieval density. If we gave Stenron the density of a modern city of equivalent building style it would be roughly 300 square miles in size (nyc is 486 square miles)
Nomadic
No llum we live orders of magnitude less densely. The average middle ages city density was about 60-100 people per square acre. The density of new york city proper is 42 people per square acre and that doesn't factor in the fact that new york builds far higher on average than a medieval city (so the true figure is probably a fair bit lower). New York is also a huge metropolis with a big inner city focus on apartment buildings. If you look at a smaller city the average family has 1/8th to 1/2 an acre all to themselves (granted we're talking american stats but even in europe you have far lower density than middle age levels). So if we say a family of 4 on average then we get average of 16 people/acre.
LordVreeg
There are almost ten thousand priests in the (original) street of the Gods alone.
And there is a reason they call them 'Marcher Cows', EE. Celtrician crops near a major city, especially this Major city, are all under multiple 'Sacred Grove' spells.
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And there is a reason they call them 'Marcher Cows', EE. Celtrician crops near a major city, especially this Major city, are all under multiple 'Sacred Grove' spells.
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Llum
We live orders of magnitude more densely than they would. that's a bit less than 7x7 miles. Think of large estares and stuff like that.
Elemental_Elf
For a society that lacks modern farming, it's really big.
Hell, Sparks (a suburb of Reno) is only 24 sq mi and it has 80,000 people living in it.
Hell, Sparks (a suburb of Reno) is only 24 sq mi and it has 80,000 people living in it.
Nomadic
Wow... and with all the required farms and outliers the city is probably in total 65-100 square miles.
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