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Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on March 15, 2006, 10:40:23 PM
There's been some discussion on the Community Campaign Setting thread about setting up a WiKI for that project.  I don't necessarily agree with that idea, but what do you guys think about getting wiki set up for each person's individual campaign setting?  I believe I could set things up so that each member could be his own moderator for a certain part of the wiki, and thus, have freeze power on the wiki (meaning people couldn't change his stuff).  Daggerhart, do you know enough about the e107 plugin to know if this would work?  Otherwise, the CMS that a few guys and I are working on may be a few more weeks in the making.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on March 15, 2006, 10:41:38 PM
Or, we could just set up a mediawiki tha thas nothing to do with e107; it would require members to have 2 separate logins, but the actual mediawiki would be much more preferable to the  plugin, I believe, which seems rather limited from what I can tell (but I could easily be very, very wrong).
Title: WIKI
Post by: Numinous on March 15, 2006, 10:44:02 PM
If it's easy enough to edit, then i suppose I wouldn't mind.  i'm not too familiar with Wikis, so not quite sure though...
Title: WIKI
Post by: Elven Doritos on March 15, 2006, 10:46:07 PM
I dunno. I love Wikipedia, mind you, and I'm a Wiki addict. I don't think this is the proper way to go, though, as over-arching Wikis have their own codes of behavior. I'd rather stay as contained as possible.

Just my thoughts.
-Elven Doritos

Then again, I may or may not even be involved.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Raelifin on March 15, 2006, 10:47:35 PM
Ick. As much as I like Wikipedia... I just don't like this idea. It seems too... detached.
Title: WIKI
Post by: brainface on March 16, 2006, 12:18:20 AM
QuoteI just don't like this idea. It seems too... detached.
ftp access[/i], which we wouldn't necessarily want to set up for 30 users.

that is what you're talking about, right, ish?
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on March 16, 2006, 07:12:23 AM
You are correct, sir.
Title: WIKI
Post by: CYMRO on March 16, 2006, 09:55:33 AM
Quote from: RaelifinIck. As much as I like Wikipedia... I just don't like this idea. It seems too... detached.

Agreed and dittoed.
Free webhosting is easy enough to find and link, why steer people away from these forums?
Title: WIKI
Post by: daggerhart on March 16, 2006, 10:52:08 AM
yeah...   i suppose adding a wiki will just create more mess to learn and navigate.

it seems like a good solution, but obviously not the best (we'd have seperate logins and stuff... ehh)
Title: WIKI
Post by: Kalos Mer on March 16, 2006, 05:15:24 PM
I don't particularly find wikis to be an elegant solution.  They're great for a certain type of project - multiple people with equal contributional power - but I, at least, run the creation of my setting like a tyrant.  Benevolent tyranny, yes, but my control is absolute.

I mean, I suppose it could be a wiki with only one contributor, but like Cymro said, that's what free webhosting is for.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Túrin on March 16, 2006, 07:54:17 PM
Seconded.
Title: WIKI
Post by: limetom on November 07, 2006, 04:41:21 PM
*Casts true thread resurrection*

I've been looking over the Wiki, and I'd like to suggest a few changes.

Firstly, we need to utilize the Community Portal.  I would suggest moving both the Main Projects list and the Homebrew Campaign Settings list to the Community portal.  It would place everything in a centralized location.  There isn't really a big difference between the two lists, which everything included on both being a Campaign Setting, or close enough in the Arena's case.

Secondly, it looks like Ishy was doing this on other settings, so it might be that he isn't finished yet, but since I'm not sure, all the CeBeGia subpages need to be made to be subpages.  Currently, only the Organizations page is listed as CeBeGia:Organizations.  All the others are listed simply by name (Classes, History, and Pantheon).  If all the other settings are listed that way, we should be consistent.

Third, there are a couple of blank pages that had their contents moved over to subpages.  I would suggest deleting them, if possible.

Finally, I'm sure someone else is already doing this, but I would be willing to "run" the Wiki.
Title: WIKI
Post by: brainface on November 07, 2006, 04:53:36 PM
QuoteFirstly, we need to utilize the Community Portal. I would suggest moving both the Main Projects list and the Homebrew Campaign Settings list to the Community portal.

edit the page, man.
Title: WIKI
Post by: limetom on November 07, 2006, 05:22:55 PM
Done
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on November 07, 2006, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: http://thecbg.org/wiki/index.php?title=CeBeGia:Main_PageI see subpages in the links...[/url]
Title: WIKI
Post by: limetom on November 07, 2006, 06:15:15 PM
Hmm... could of sworn that they weren't CeBeGia:Whatever when I checked.  Guess not.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Thanuir on May 17, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
Would anyone mind if I implemented some categories into the wiki?
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on May 17, 2007, 09:13:38 AM
I would not mind, what kind of categories are you talking about?
Title: WIKI
Post by: Thanuir on May 18, 2007, 03:53:04 AM
At least adding [[Category:Ultimate Classes]], [[Category:CeBeGia]], [[Category:Jaggerfell]], [[Category:Arena]], [[Category:Characters]], and possibly some others. Some meta-level categories like [[Category:Game rules]] or [[Category:Meta]].
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on May 18, 2007, 10:00:56 AM
Fine by me... I don't really know how to do that, so I'm perfectly fine with you taking the helm on that ;)
Title: WIKI
Post by: Thanuir on May 18, 2007, 11:50:41 AM
There. Some of them could be made more granular (ultimate classes, say, and perhaps Jaggerfell) but I think they work as is well enough.
Title: WIKI
Post by: limetom on June 05, 2007, 10:48:45 PM
All the categories that were red links are red links no longer.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on June 06, 2007, 10:49:25 AM
Excellent!  I need to work on that campaign setting rating system that I started (that you made some categories for).  Any help would be appreciated, as I know little-to-nothing about wikis.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on June 14, 2007, 10:50:08 PM
I need some people who really know wikis (in particular, mediawiki) very well to get in touch with me about a few projects I have in mind.  Here's a few things I'm looking for:

*creating original templates for a series of ratings systems for campaign settings and homebrew rules
*setting up namespaces and specific user pages
*styling the page with some new css

Just PM me if you think you can help with this.

Thanks!
-Ish
Title: WIKI
Post by: limetom on June 15, 2007, 10:06:15 PM
I know you said a PM, but whatever...

According to the Help:Namespace page on Meta (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Namespace), we should have 15 (but more than likely 17, with the inclusion of Media: and Special:).  However, I cannot be sure until the database is brought over.  I know for a fact we have at least Category: and Image:, so I'm pretty sure we have all 15 categories, they just need to be implemented.  If you meant adding custom namespaces, Help:Custom Namespaces (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces) seems to be pretty straightforward.  However, I personally couldn't do it, because I believe you need access to the database, which I don't have.

I'm currently trying to teach myself how to create templates, but since I don't have any programming background, it's slow going.  Luckily Meta has a boatload of Help pages on Templates, so I'll hopefully be able to come up with something; I saw what you were doing before the server change, and I should be able to implement that once I figure out what the heck I'm doing.
Title: WIKI
Post by: KeshFerrar on June 15, 2007, 10:37:38 PM
I'm not savvy with media wiki, but I'm getting more proficient with CSS coding (thanks to PlotStorming.com). If you need any suggestions, advice, or how to websites, or you just need to bounce some ideas off of someone. I'm willing.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on June 19, 2007, 02:50:23 PM
The first thing I'm looking to get help on is designing templates.  There are a few templates I want to create.

- A template where campaign settings can be ranked according to how close to "completeness" they are.
- A template where authors can put stock information about themselves in any articles they write.
- A template for a Diablo II page that we can use to easily insert our Diablo II usernames, character names, character levels, current quests, etc.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Tangential on June 21, 2007, 10:40:30 PM
I'd use at least two of those, should they come to exist.
Title: WIKI
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on June 22, 2007, 08:53:16 AM
Yeah, still waiting for people who may know what they're doing on that stuff.  I've got some basic template ideas ready for them, but they never seem to work out properly.