So... we still link to the Cartographer's Guild and the Fantaseum Alliance on our front page, but a quick look at their site's front page does not seem to link to the CBG. Is there any chance that we can get them to add a link back to us from there? Or did I just miss seeing their reciprocal link?
I remember Ravs thinking that there was little cross-interaction between the CBG and the CG. I'll make an enquiry and see if that can be reset.
there are regularly people who post world building stuff with their maps there, who totally would be interested here. We recommend the CartoGuild when someone wants to do a map for their setting when they post here.
Oh, I know that. I think Rav'a (CL) thought the CBG was dead. I'll go remind the CL's - I know Ghostman among others are regulars on the CG, just as there are members who come here too. Perhaps not as often as I do, but come they do.
I used to be a regular (I still would be if I had more free time). I have been thinking about talking with them about hosting a friendly cross-site competition combining mapping and campaign building.
I think that has happened once long ago. I am sure it would go over well. Perhaps I'll post a Challenge Idea of doing just that. Tell some details on what your ideas are and I'll start a thread. Perhaps have a contest here to write the basis of a story or setting, and have the CG do a contest to map it...
Quote from: Gamer PrintshopI think that has happened once long ago. I am sure it would go over well. Perhaps I'll post a Challenge Idea of doing just that. Tell some details on what your ideas are and I'll start a thread. Perhaps have a contest here to write the basis of a story or setting, and have the CG do a contest to map it...
Was actually discussing some contest ideas with sdragon the other day. Let me mull it over for tonight and we'll go from there.
I contacted the admin at the CG, and discovered that in one of the upgrades, the links got dropped, it was not intentional. They are verifying with the site owner that the links should be reinstated.
Michael
Just sent a pm to RobA to see what he thinks of the idea.
All that sounds good!
As far as the competition goes; what about instead of a simple competition, do a partnership thing. That is a CBG member partners with a "buddy" at the cartographer's guild and they collaborate on something together. That way, the strengths of both sites are highlighted- and people work on both sites rather than compete with each other. Together the artist and the author create the world. It may be complicated, but it may be fun.
My thought had been for everyone to write on a place, either in their setting or just made up. Then the mappers could grab places and map them out. However that's certainly a possibility.
i suggested this (making adventures, locations, ect with the Cartoguild) back in the "What do you want to see with the CBG?" thread when Nom took over and it damn near turned into a flame war.
Quote from: Light Dragonwhat about instead of a simple competition, do a partnership thing. That is a CBG member partners with a "buddy" at the cartographer's guild and they collaborate on something together.
This will fail when partners drop out of the game halfway due to lack of time, lost interest, etc.
Ghostman- I was sort of figuring that the mapmaker either makes a map and then one of us derives a setting from it, subject to the mapmaker's approval/collaboration ; or the mapmaker selects one of our settings to make a map from. This would challenge us to make a setting that suits the map's style and/or vice versa.
In fact, their map could already be made. It could be a 'matchmaking service'; match the map with a setting and in return, the mapmaker designs a map in the style of one of our settings.
Not much time to fall-out in that case. All that has to be delivered is one thing for each person. If the partners don't talk back and forth much, a product will still be produced; that is there will be a map and a setting.
Alright, I contacted RobA, the co-Admin at the CG (before Nomadic did), and he responded that he'd contact Arcana (Robbie) the true site Admin/owner of the CG. I just got a PM from Robbie, and this was his response...
"Absolutely, lets put them back. I still have the fantaseum web page too. I took the forum and wiki down due to spam, but the domain and basic homepage (with the spring '08 e-zine) is still there."
So it's going be done. That's that.
GP
Quote from: Gamer PrintshopAlright, I contacted RobA, the co-Admin at the CG (before Nomadic did), and he responded that he'd contact Arcana (Robbie) the true site Admin/owner of the CG. I just got a PM from Robbie, and this was his response...
"Absolutely, lets put them back. I still have the fantaseum web page too. I took the forum and wiki down due to spam, but the domain and basic homepage (with the spring '08 e-zine) is still there."
So it's going be done. That's that.
GP
Awesome, well then as you've gotten ahold of them before me I'm going to nominate you as our official spokesman :P
Here's my thoughts so far:
- Both communities will run a joint contest, one running before the other.
- If we go first we'll have people write about an area (either your choice or we might choose one particular thing to keep things easier) and then they'll make maps by picking an available writeup (if we have more mapmakers than setting builders we'll let them choose the same thing after all settings are chosen).
- Everyone will vote on the best writeup and the best map, winners will get a small prize of some form.
I'd also like to get ahold of Arcana to discuss more things we can do, perhaps you can hook me up with him GP.
PM me or respond here, and I will keep Arcana abridged for your thoughts. (Shouldn't I get a badge or something?) :p
GP
Quote from: Gamer PrintshopPM me or respond here, and I will keep Arcana abridged for your thoughts. (Shouldn't I get a badge or something?) :p
GP
Haha, maybe. What I'd really like to do is talk with him in person since I'm not quite sure where we can go with this, I'd like to get his ideas and feedback. Perhaps you can encourage him to send me a PM on the CG forums (I have an account there).
I'd be in. I'd like some concrete info before though.
I support any cross guild interaction.
Just wanted to say that.
I also support cross-guild contests as well as internal guild contests. I like ones with big wide-open time limits as I sometimes forget about things for weeks at a time.
Have any decisions been made?
None yet and I haven't really heard back from GP or RobA about it so it's up in the air. I'd still like to do something though.
Its under discussion with the Community Leaders at the CG at the moment - they're busy guys, but its on their plate!
I created a thread in the Challenge Suggestions with a poll for having a cross Guild contest map challenge and in one day's posting there's only positive votes. If anybody here who is also a CG member should vote and post their thoughts and enthusiasm in that thread.
Nomadic, this means you especially. I posted our renewal of the Alliance link to come soon, so it would good of you to corroborate and put in your thoughts.
Already being discussed in the thread, whatever contest you have here at the CBG - setting, regional setting, whatever, once we do the map, we'll be making a free PDF publication of the whole thing with cover art, page layout, all done professionally and we'll see about posting it to RPGNow and Drive-Thru RPG as a free product download.
Thoughts?
GP
For what it's worth, I think that pairing people from other guilds would be a bad idea. If one member of the group were to flake, the other would suffer for it. I don't know how else it could be done really together, though.
I'm thinking the CBG runs their own contest for a setting development idea, then once a winner is chosen here, that entry goes to the CG as a theme to map, then all mappers attempt to meet the challenge for that one setting. I don't think pairing up is even a consideration that the CG would do. Its tough enough to get participants to challenges at all. Some challenges gather more entries than others, often it is just member regulars who participate.
Pairing is definitely not a good idea considering that.
Something like that sounds about the best. The opposite could work, too, having the CBG create the story for a sort of map-of-mystery.
Any progress on this?
I've heard nothing back from them about it so I'm assuming it's been canceled.