Do Not Want my sorcerers to be without the quickened feat.
Do Not Want sorcerers to be descended from dragons.
Do Not Want half-orcs to be so constrained in their range of excellence.
Do Not Want the undead to be inherently evil - even the mindless ones.
Do Not Want warlocks to be so associated with the powers of evil.
Do Not Want hexblades to be unable to achieve Goodness.
Do Not Want spellscales to pop up as children of sorcerers of any race, for no reason.
Do Not Want divine minds to exist.
Do Not Want to hear about how I can make this stuff the way I want it in my own campaign setting. I got that. I am making my own campaign setting, and I'm making it my way. I can do that.
But part of the basic principle of my setting is that it can include the material from any supplement. And each supplement coming out from WotC includes material that I have to houserule my way around, because it supports elements from previous publications that I Do Not Want!!!!
Do Not Want bill from tax collector.
I did not ask for, did not receive, and will not pay for the item in Line 1 of your invoice, 'tax'...
-From a letter to the IRS from one 'Titanic' Thompson, con-man and gambler.
Do Not Want another kidney stone.
Do Not Want Barbarians to exist as a class. :explode:
Quote from: PONTIFEX BRASSICUS CYMRO XIIIDo Not Want Barbarians to exist as a class. :explode:
Oh, come on. Barbarians are far, far better than, say, Paladins.
Quote from: Xathan, the Archbishop of CabbageQuote from: PONTIFEX BRASSICUS CYMRO XIIIDo Not Want Barbarians to exist as a class. :explode:
Oh, come on. Barbarians are far, far better than, say, Paladins.
Do Not Want Barbarians or Paladins to exist as a class.
Do Not Want smite evil to be such a weak-ass class feature. Only Cha bonus to attack rolls and level bonus to damage ONCE PER DAY??? This is their frikkin' DEFINING CLASS FEATURE, the ability to channel your righteousness through your exalted blade so that your enemies might feel your holy wrath, and it only has a marginally better chance of success than a standard attack! Heck, a pally might as well just sacrifice for a level of sorcerer and capitalise on the possible FOUR True Strikes a day. At least then their "valiant strike fuelled by the powers of Good" would actually look the part. As a matter of fact, just go all-out sorcerer, and at twentieth level wander the lands muttering wail of the banshee like a mantra (I call it: Night of a Thousand Wails). Oh, for the days when power word kill was not restricted to a single foe!
Do Not Want Vancian magic. That's the one thing keeping me from implementing Nnight of a Thousand Wails". I mean, who says spending all your arcane energy on a single life-quenching spell is overpowered? If I want to cast twenty polar rays in two minutes, that should be my prerogative.
Do Not Want Mialee to even exist. What the hell is she, anyway? Some kind of anthropomorphic insect? So much for racial archetypes...
Do Not Want another month to pass with no ROTFLMAO emoticon! :yumm:
Quote from: Salacious AngelDo Not Want Mialee to even exist. What the hell is she, anyway? Some kind of anthropomorphic insect? So much for racial archetypes...
Yeah... fugly elf chick...
Do Not Want Uwe Boll to make Far Cry or Postal.
Do Not Want to think about the fact that he has the rights to both films.
Do Not Want Uwe Boll to ever acquire Half Life or... any other game.
Except Big Rigs. Somehow, that seems oddly appropriate...
Do Not Want to hear another noob say that Oblivion was better than Morrowind (or even a serviceable RPG).
Do Not Want Fallout 3 to be re-relagated to the status of vaporware. C'mon Bethesda, time to make up for your laxity with some hardcore tongue-in-cheek, post-apocalyptic action. With two-headed cows.
Do Not Want to go one step further without Hobgoblins beside me as a playable class.
Do Not Want Paladins, Rangers, or Bards to ever be represented as a core class.
Do Not Want X-Men 3: The Last Stand to exist in any capacity unless time reverts itself and Bryan Singer directs it. I mean, seriously, would the Wachowski Brothers say they were writing an epic trilogy if they directed the first two movies, but then hired Chris Columbus to write and direct the third?
Do not want class features to be pre-defined.
Do not want save numbers and BAB to be pre-defined.
Do not want skills and skill points to be pre-defined.
Do not want racial features to be pre-defined.
Do not want copcious amounts of magic items to define the usefulness of a character.
Do not want combat skill to define the usefulness of a character.
Do not want to like D&D despite all its flaws.
Do not want the Lawful Stupid alignment to exist! EVER! EVEREVEREVER!
[spoiler=DO NOT WANT](http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6374/donotwantni2.jpg)[/spoiler]
DO NOT WANT class and level to have tangible, observable "labels" in the game world.
DO NOT WANT five-minute-a-day omnipotence for spellcasters.
DO NOT WANT magic to supplant military force as the go-to method of large-scale destruction.
DO NOT WANT characters' "person-ness" to be overridden by game stats, ever.
DO NOT WANT characters' "person-ness" to be summed up entirely by alignment, ever.
DO NOT WANT magic common enough to become mundane through overuse.
DO NOT WANT the assumption and expectation that PCs should and will be bedecked in dozens of magic gewgaws.
DO NOT WANT oversimplified, black-and-white issues of morality.
DO NOT WANT thirty-two billion subraces, elven or otherwise.
DO NOT WANT combat to be the sole problem-solving process in a game... or even (necessarily) the primary one.
DO NOT WANT the choices made by players to be taken out of the central spotlight, by anything.
DO NOT WANT death to lose its sting.
[ooc]DO NOT WANT to write my term paper. :( [/ooc]
QuoteDO NOT WANT death to lose its sting.
DO NOT WANT death's sting!
[spoiler Nooooooooo!](http://db.rambleschmack.net/images/posts/so_that_was_the_worst_possible_outcome/do_not_want.jpg) [/spoiler]
Do Not Want combat to ever become a trivial, boring or happy affair. (Which is why I'm getting TRoS (eventually))
Quote from: brainfaceQuoteDO NOT WANT death to lose its sting.
DO NOT WANT Sting's death. Wait, I don't really care. :)
Whatever. As long as...
Actually, add to my last one...
DO NOT want crappy, cruddy, predetermined alignment. Full stop.
ESPECIALLY Lawful Good. Or Chaotic Good. Now, Chaotic Neutral...
Also, I DO NOT WANT the only 'good' examples of chaos to be childlike angels or robin-hood-wannabes.
That reminds me - Do Not Want alignments to become clubs. You know what I mean. You telling me the king is going to fire the chamberlain because the king is chaotic good and the chamberlain is lawful evil? What if they've been lifelong friends and the chamberlain, despite his cruel streak, is a loyal subject? I like the alignment system just fine, because if it is played with virissimilitude it is played as a fundamentally private matter. A Paladin can use it for very specific purposes, but Detect Evil should never be completely synonymous with Detect Enemy. A knight in service to the king, even a lawful good knight, should be able to work productively with the chamberlain without a qualm (unless the chamberlain does something duplicitous.)
Alignments may have very real supernatural effects, but the personal ones should be strictly OOC. Eberron is particularly egregious in this matter - a certain queen in that setting is Neutral Good in alignment, not because she is a good person, but because it was important to the setting that she belong to the 'good' club. In point of fact, she is treacherous and dangerously ambitious. She may very well be compassionate to her subjects, and fund orphanages or whatever - that stuff doesn't make her good if she's ready to plunge the land into war, as it seems, just because she doesn't like the current arrangement.
Then there's Incarnum. I would say 'don't get me started', but this is a rant so away we go!
Well, let's see. The Azurin are the children of humans who have, for whatever reason, been filled with a little more 'soul' than other humans. This means they are a little stronger in the use of incarnum than other humans. It also means they can only be LG, CG, LE, or CE. Because, y'know, those are the strongest alignments and the azurin is really strong in alignment. Because he's, like, got a little more soul-stuff than most folks.
What? What?!? What is that? Why couldn't that extra soul energy by Neutral? What about Neutral Good? What if a an azurin who had previously been Lawful suddenly starts feeling unually capricious and whimsical? Does he leapfrog over the 'neutral' alignment and start acting all chaotic all of a sudden? Why are the various 'neutral' clubs closed to such individuals? You would think that the 'neutral' clubs would want people strong in incarnum, just to round things out. But nooooo...
"More so than most other mortal races, azurins strive to embody their alignments." That's the explanation given. Do Not Want.
Then there's the Incarnate, the primary core incarnum class. Here's another quote - "As an incarnate, you must choose one alignment component: good, evil, law, or chaos. This alignment component defines you and serves as your guiding principle. For incarnates, though, this is more than just belief, because incarnates channel souls that contain the very essence of this alignment component." -snip- "Incarnates of different alignments have different methods of fighting and different strengths in combat - " so basically, an incarnates powers vary depending on which of the four alignments they are. NG, LN, CN, NE. Those are the four alignments, and each one has certain powers not permitted to the others. Because we all know how protective good people are, and how focussed chaotic people are on speed and quickness. Right. What about a good person who believes that his principle duty in combat is to end it as quickly as possible, implying that he needs to put an adversary down fast? Can't do that - doing damage is Evil in this scheme. And you have to be strictly Lawful to be able to hit more accurately. Each club has it's own little school, apparently.
The second of the 3 core incarnum using classes is the Soulborn. Here's the alignment notes on soulborn - "Soulborns are polarized in their alignments, hewing to strong convictions of morality and ethics. As such, they can only be lawful good, chaotic good, lawful evil, or chaotic evil." Nary a word on a soulborn whose convictions lead him to be lawful irrespective of good or evil, or evil without regards to law or chaos, or even a soulborn who aspires to the natural purity of a true neutrality. Perhaps needless to say, these four soulborn clubs also each have their own little mystical ups and downs, lending themselves to certain tactics that may or may not be to the liking of a player.
Bottom line - Do Not Want alignment to be the defining feature of any character, not even Paladins. Let the character be it's own character, and let alignment be the result.
DO WANT DeeL, Golem, and all my other siblings who see the joy in being free of uncreative alignment.
DO NOT WANT to listen to all you whiners! Sheesh! ;)
DO NOT WANT to be called a whiner! :weirdo:
DO NOT WANT excessive negativity!
Quote from: DeeLThen there's Incarnum. I would say 'â,¬Â¦emselves to certain tactics that may or may not be to the liking of a player.
solved[/i].
Quote from: DarkxarthDO NOT WANT to listen to all you whiners! Sheesh! ;)
Oh man... are you ever in the wrong thread. Feel free to start a 'bucket o' daisies' thread, if you like.
And Brainface - nice approach. And wasn't that back in the days when each alignment had its own language?
DO NOT WANT purple cows, green will suffice.
DO NOT WANT my sanity back, it was overrated
DO NOT WANT to type DO NOT WANT anymore, but I don't see that happening.
I dont want all this negativity to @&*% up my karma...
Quote from: SilvercatMoonpawDO WANT DeeL, Golem, and all my other siblings who see the joy in being free of uncreative alignment.
*Smirk*
We're all part of a special club - the Alignment-Haters! :P
Quote from: Wrexham3I dont want all this negativity to @&*% up my karma...
Your karma is already frelled. We know what you did your last incarnation...
Quote from: PONTIFEX BRASSICUS CYMRO XIIIQuote from: Wrexham3I dont want all this negativity to @&*% up my karma...
Your karma is already frelled. We know what you did your last incarnation...
DO NOT WANT the Sci Fi channel to see your post and make a movie with that title.
Quote from: PONTIFEX BRASSICUS CYMRO XIIIQuote from: Wrexham3I dont want all this negativity to @&*% up my karma...
Your karma is already frelled. We know what you did your last incarnation...
Ah yes, I'd forgotten about that...
Quote from: DeeLOh man... are you ever in the wrong thread. Feel free to start a 'bucket o' daisies' thread, if you like.
I was just joking.
DO NOT WANT to be taken seriously when I'm just kidding.
DO NOT WANT to see any more 'rebel" Drow. Considering how many of them there must be, you'd think they'd be the majority by now.
DO NOT WANT to ever hear the word Katana again. Seriously.
DO NOT WANT all of my Dwarves to have Scottish accents.
DO NOT WANT drow that should have died out within two-hundred years of their society beginning. Seriously, I doubt they have any time for breeding what with all the time they spend killing one another, and they have the charateristic slow breeding rate of elves...
DO NOT WANT to have to see another explanation of PUN_PUN...
DO NOT WANT grimlocks. At all.
DO NOT WANT to have to bitch about anything. They should be able to read my mind...
Do Not Want the goblinoid races to be portrayed as stupider than the others. They're AS SMART AND WISE AS WE ARE, the hobgoblin is as charismatic as we are, and the bugbear is hella stronger, fitter and faster than us.
Quote from: Endless_HelixDO NOT WANT grimlocks. At all.
WHAT!?
Quote from: beejazzQuote from: Endless_HelixDO NOT WANT grimlocks. At all.
WHAT!?
No, seriously, they're crap.
Sorry, but yeah, they are. Freaky grey blind things whose portraits look like my great-aunt? Hmm...
In my campaign, the grimlocks are distantly related to the githic races. Would it change your mind if they were skinny and yellow?
I'm talking the core grimlocks. I mean... they can only "see" 60 feet around them. They couldn't survive. There is no way. They'd die out from lack of mating oppotunities...
DO NOT WANT writers block...at all
DO NOT WANT to have thought of something then forget it before being able to write it down
DO NOT WANT kobolds to be treated as stupid natives, they have to be smart if they are masters of trap building
DO NOT WANT all first meeting to start in a tavern
DO NOT WANT to hear that psionics is broken
QuoteDO NOT WANT to have thought of something then forget it before being able to write it down
drive[/i] and I think that's terribly rude.
Darn zombies!
Quote from: Machinegun PoliticsQuoteDO NOT WANT to have thought of something then forget it before being able to write it down
drive[/i] and I think that's terribly rude.
Darn zombies!
MAn, i hate when that happens.
DO NOT WANT hack and slash (all the time).
DO NOT WANT my chem midterm.
DO NOT WANT big flashy magic (it should be subtle).
DO NOT WANT higher level characters to be indistructible (i don't care how good a fighter you are. if you're hit by a crossbow, you're probably dead).
This post may be CYNICAL. You are supposed to be offended. Screw you, I really could care less. Actually... you know what? I don't care at all. (Actually, don't be offended... this is what I feel about stuff. I felt I needed to say it, because otherwise, I would never do so.)
DO NOT WANT a thread on Dice Pools. You can do elementary probability. Good for you. Go away.
DO NOT WANT dice pools at all. How is taking away probablity adding interest to a game? Seriously... I like rolling a d20, 7d6 is pushing it just a little. *Sigh* I was going to be sarcastic, but no... 7d6 is just ridiculous. Dice pools are dumb. Probablity adds an uncontrollable factor which, when coupled with roleplaying, makes RPGs fun, system be damned.
DO NOT WANT a CBG system that has no identifiable purpose given anywhere. Why I am I supposed to use this? How is it going to be fun? I guess its a secret or something...
DO NOT WANT to be told that my information based off of research is incorrect, and someone else's information based off of speculation is. 5 hours of research on Japanese weapons. Shurikens should have a higher critical multiplier. If you increase the threat range, it says it's easier to crit with. It isn't. It simiply is devastating when done right. That's a higher crit multiplier. Screw balance.
DO NOT WANT mechanics, new or otherwise, to ever be a basis for a setting. So you've got a new magic system. Oh, and you built a campaign setting around it? I see. Don't mind me while I don't care.
DO NOT WANT new magic systems, unless they really bring something new to the table. "But limetom, mine's a mana system that has elemental and technological aspects. Plus, each time you cast a spell, you make it up on the fly. Fun, right?" No. I could care less about magic to begin with. Make something actually unique.
DO NOT WANT everyone to announce that they're leaving or whatever. I moved to Hawaii from Maryland and no one said anything.
[pun] I won't care if you don't. [/pun]
DO NOT WANT pointless things. Seriously... I'm leaving this one vauge.
...
Oh!
We were supposed to be talking about stuff in D&D?
Hmm...
DO NOT WANT the current incarnations of top level outsiders, including deities. When a fully advanced Balor could trounce Demogorgon, something is very wrong. There is only one Demogorgon. There is at least one fully advanced Balor, probably many more.
Good thing Dicefreaks and Eternity Publishing fixed that little... er... major problem....
DO NOT WANT things that aren't broken to be "fixed". Astral constructs are... broken? Riiiiight... Polymorph? Maybe...
DO NOT WANT to hear that something sucks or is the best thing ever. Especially before it comes out. If you don't like it, why care?
[dark humor] Apathy never hurt anyone, right? [/dark humor]
______________
I doubt anyone here has ever really noticed it, but I switch from being (or at least trying to be) a compassionate and polite person to a horribly cynical and apathetic person. I blame it on psychological conditioning carried over from depression.
This post, for example, contains things which I usually just brush off, even though they annoy the carp out of me. Occasionally, I'll do this as a catharsis, and also just to be an ass. I like being an ass sometimes.
Make of this what you will.
DO NOT WANT people to make excuses for their actions based on claims of
anything psychological. There is such a thing as culpability, brain damage be damned. I'm a dick, you're a dick, we're all dicks, just be a dick and be done with it, so we can point the finger at you and CALL you a dick.
DO NOT WANT to respond to honest and merited criticism through offhanded, crude assertions of disinterest. I should take everything in stride, instead of acting like the little shit I know I'm not.
Having said that, I DO NOT WANT to ever hear "constructive" criticism. Give me nothing but PRAISE!
DO NOT WANT to keep churning out the nuggets of a setting idea and advertising it as a full setting in progress. I KNOW it'll never get made. I KNOW I only have and ever will have one dedicated setting, and I should stick to that because it's the shiz.
DO NOT WANT epic level progressions. Not on any ideological grounds, they just make no freakin' sense! AT ALL! How does thirty-five levels of "experience" make you resistant to 150 critical daggerstrikes to the face, Mr. Barbarian!?!
It therefore follows that I DO NOT WANT there to exist any dragon more powerful than the red. The whole POINT of a dragon is that it waits around on a pile of gold to get HACKED REPEATEDLY IN THE FACE BY TORDEK (That's right, Tordek), and you CERTAINLY don't need anything badder than CR 26 to accomplish that (there's a reason why it's the most powerful critter in the manual - and no, I don't count the two uber "good dragons", because they DO NOT EXIST).
DO NOT WANT to think racist or sexist thoughts.
DO NOT WANT to hear people say they never do. You SO do, so stop acting like a pretentious prat with a command-word-activated staff of the magi up your ass! I'm sure there are truly unprejudiced people in the world, but you ain't one of them. Really, you're not.
DO NOT WANT people to take personal offense to what goes on in my head. I'm sure if I had a look in your head I'd have cause to be just as offended. But I won't, because I'm not an idiot.
On a simiar principle, I DO NOT WANT to
ever hear "alchohol reveals who you truly are". What a load of nalfeshnee piss. If any one of you got sloshed off your nut, I guarantee you'd say something as incriminating as Mel Gibson - if not, you'd probably have the potential for it (see above point). If we truly are what we appear to be when we're drunk, then what are we the other 99% of the time when we're stone sober? Fakes? The whole point of our minds keeping things in our subconscious is that they aren't necessarily our opinions! What if I think "dammit, I lost out to a chick", but then say to myself "hey, man, that's inappropriate, derogatory and below you". Am I to be judged on a single chauvinist, alchohol induced utterance even if I otherwise make every effort to be noble and moderate?
If that's the case, you can all go to hell. And tell Fierna I sent you.
DO NOT WANT to see anyone of any generation or ethnicity, lauding the ghetto sound or lifestyle. Good job idiots; way to set our people back three hundred years.
DO NOT WANT faith healers, televangelists, Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses to ever go out of style. You guys are too much fun!
[note=I am SKYNET!]
:lurk:
[/note]DO NOT WANT "morality" to ever inhibit our progression towards true Artificial Intelligence and the subsequent technological singularity. 'Cos remember kids, there's no such thing as a crime against humanity when you have no capacity for moral thought.
DO NOT WANT anyone to confuse
desire (or lack thereof) with an
assumption of correctness. Just because I'd rather see/not see something doesn't mean I'm right. There is nothing objective in these statements, and I know it. If you think otherwise, come closer so I can set fire to your gonads.
DO NOT WANT this to ever become a normal forum. It's not. It's the best thing about the internet next to THIS (http://www.pakin.org/complaint/).
Oh yeah, and limetom sucks. And dice pools are the best thing ever.
EVER.
Oh yeah, and I DO WANT you to take this seriously. Seriously.
[spoiler=SERIOUSLY?]No. You're so gullible.[/spoiler]
Got Spite?
In Biblical quantities.
DO NOT WANT fun ranting threads to take a turn for the (pseudo-?)serious! You know, because serious-sounding rants might be taken serious by someone and that would reduce the fun.
@ Angel : What happened to the family-friendliness?
Túrin
I dunno... I actually edited the word out, not back in. It's like it reverse-posted...
I think I'll just pull an MTV and change the word altogether. Controversy always gives me a rash in the nethers...
As a change of pace:
DO NOT WANT to ever get that pseud-serious again. Frightening stuff and I know better.
DO NOT WANT Tarrasque variants. There is only one. And he will eat you and yo mama. With sauce.
DO NOT WANT good dragons. Except silver.
DO NOT WANT a gold dragon whose head looks like a dick with whiskers. What?! It's there!
DO NOT CARE what ANYONE thinks about dicepools. I'm twirlin' my freakin' moustache over here with the intentional complexity I force on physically subdued gamers. Muahahahaha! 'Cause I'm that freakin' evil.
DO NOT WANT perpetual bitching about Vancian magic. It works in play. If I use something else, it's cause I'm competing with DnD and must therefore differentiate my product, rather than doing what DnD does and sucking at it. Not because I got beef with Vance.
DO NOT WANT the vast majority of hip-hop to exist. It's just pop masquerading in the rotting carcass of rap.
DO NOT WANT the Fuse channel. The music they play there is, again, just pop masquerading in the hollowed-out carcass of punk. Or something else (hard to tell in these late stages of decay).
DO NOT WANT "random" shoe checks. They ain't random. They may as well just call the policy "checkin' Eric's shoes."
DO NOT WANT to be called Eric, Crazy Eric, or any further variation of the name Eric ever except by a very very very few people. Or Arthur for that matter. If we meet in person, you will adress me as "hey you."
DO NOT WANT Scary Movie or its sequels, Date Movie, Teen Movie, or any movie with the word "movie" in the title.
QuoteDO NOT WANT "morality" to ever inhibit our progression towards true Artificial Intelligence and the subsequent technological singularity. 'Cos remember kids, there's no such thing as a crime against humanity when you have no capacity for moral thought.
but... but... DO NOT WANT to be eaten by gray goo! :(
Quotebut... but... DO NOT WANT to be eaten by gray goo!
IT COMES!
It comes...
Quote from: Call me AngelDO NOT WANT people to make excuses for their actions based on claims of anything psychological. There is such a thing as culpability, brain damage be damned. I'm a dick, you're a dick, we're all dicks, just be a dick and be done with it, so we can point the finger at you and CALL you a dick.
[snip]
On a simiar principle, I DO NOT WANT to ever hear "alchohol reveals who you truly are". What a load of nalfeshnee piss. If any one of you got sloshed off your nut, I guarantee you'd say something as incriminating as Mel Gibson - if not, you'd probably have the potential for it (see above point). If we truly are what we appear to be when we're drunk, then what are we the other 99% of the time when we're stone sober? Fakes? The whole point of our minds keeping things in our subconscious is that they aren't necessarily our opinions! What if I think "dammit, I lost out to a chick", but then say to myself "hey, man, that's inappropriate, derogatory and below you". Am I to be judged on a single chauvinist, alchohol induced utterance even if I otherwise make every effort to be noble and moderate?
If that's the case, you can all go to hell. And tell Fierna I sent you.
Those two points seem to go together to me...
You see, its my belief that the effects of alcohol or other narcotics do not reveal your "true self" but also that they cannot be used as excuses for innapropriate or offensive behaviour. Sure, you got drunk and, I dunno, let's say, tried to screw your friend's spouse.
You should apologise. Sincerely. And try to make up for it. Do not simply say "Oh yeah, sorry about that, I was just drunk, y'know?" and then expect everything to be cool. You are still the same person drunk or stoned or whatever as you are at any other time, you are just in a different mental state. And you have the same responsiblity to be a decent human being as at any other time, just as everyone has a responsibility to be a decent human being.
It annoys me when people persistently get wasted, act like complete bastards, then the next day pretend nothing has happened, and then repeat the process next weekend.
So I suppose you could say that that is one of the things I DO NOT WANT.
PS. That isn't to say that I'm totally against the recreational use of narcotics. I drink with relative frequency myself. However, I like to think I'm a "good drunk" - I only verbally abuse people in jest when inebriated, I only break things accidentally, I never start fights (although I did once hit someone, but I was justified. At least, all my friends tell me I was justified, personally I'm not so sure violence is ever justified except in self-defence), and I never try to come on to people who it would be innapropriate for me to be with. In fact I very rarely try to come on to anyone at all, even sober, Lol.
But, yeah, my point is, I'm not against the recreational use of narcotics but the irresponsible use of narcotics.
EDIT: Just realised a lot of this post could be taken as me having a go at you, Angel. I'm not, really, it's just that your post made this little rant rise to the surface of my brain and then burst free through my keyboard onto the internet :P
DO NOT WANT massive amounts of research papers and assorted schoolwork.
DO NOT WANT group assignments. I hate group assignments. Let me do it myself, darn it! :(
DO NOT WANT writer's block.
DO NOT WANT to keep staying up until 3:00 in morning working on papers that are due the nest day.
DO NOT WANT to have to wake up at 8:00 on days when I've been up until 3:00 working on a paper.
DO NOT WANT to go more than 48 hours without sleep. It's not fun.
DO NOT WANT to be so darned lazy that I let my own setting collapse.
DO NOT WANT to have to listen to my Athiest Linguistics professor continually bash all religions. I respect his choices, he should respect ours. Not smirk annoyingly every time he mentions religion.
DO NOT WANT the Fighter to be disrespected. If you do, he will rip your head off and punt it half a mile away.
DO NOT WANT all Barbarians to be stupid. I mean, sure, Intelligence isn't one of their big stats, but still...
DO NOT WANT all Elves to be prententious, uptight jerks.
DO NOT WANT all Dwarves to be Scottish alcoholics.
DO NOT WANT all Gnomes to be annoying.
DO NOT WANT all Halflings to be Rogues, or Rogue variations.
DO NOT WANT all Half-Elves to be Bards or Swashbucklers.
DO NOT WANT all Half-Orcs to be thugs.
DO NOT WANT all Royal Viziers to be evil.
DO NOT WANT all Psionic characters to be bald.
DO NOT WANT all of my player's character's parents to be dead, presumably killed by some random invasion by a "lesser race".
Quote from: KindlingEDIT: Just realised a lot of this post could be taken as me having a go at you, Angel. I'm not, really, it's just that your post made this little rant rise to the surface of my brain and then burst free through my keyboard onto the internet :P
Bah, taken in good stride. I myself had a go at Limetom, so what goes around...
I still stand by my statement, though. One's inebriated mind is of course no more or less an element of your true psyche (whether the product of external influence or not, any alteration of brain-state is still within YOUR BRAIN), but the fact that you keep things in your subconscious counts for a
hell of a lot. It tells us, for starters, that for whatever reason (good or bad), you do not want others to hear those thoughts and develop
potentially erroneous interpretations. Own up to and apologise for your drunken actions, for sure (you did, after all, imbibe the substance yourself and therefore are the instigator of whatever mishaps should follow), but never accept that those actions are indicative of your true identity simply because some idiot tells you so.
In short, my two statements are not a contradiction. Owning up to a bad action because you allowed the formation of the mental state wherein you were susceptible to such stupidity is certainly imperative, but merely claiming said culpability does
not equate with an admittance of a revised identity. Blame a man for faulty action, but do not always judge the totality of his character on it,
especially under the influence. That's the gist of it.
(This could potentially degenerate into a crazy polemic about the "truth of human identity", but we know better... don't we?)
So you technically weren't ripping on me, because your response was based on faulty interpretation. No harm, no foul.
(I, on the other hand, am TOTALLY against narcotics. And sex. And television. And music. And RPGs. And videogames. And cotton candy. And the Mets. Especially the mets. Because people don't kil people - inanimate objects, immaterial abstracts and
baseball kill people)
DO NOT WANT to see Saw 3! I have seen a good 30 seconds, and that is more than enough for me. There's such thing as good taste, and while my aesthetic palate might be virtually nonexistent, it's the principle of the thing that counts.
Wow, um. I'm sensing a lot of negative energy on this thread. Uh.
DO NOT WANT base classes that are just specialist wizards with mechanically superior class features?
Nah not negative energy. Only my frst long and vitriolically charged post had negative energy. After that, it's just reasoned discussion.
And gray goo.
QuoteDO NOT WANT base classes that are just specialist wizards with mechanically superior class features?
Neither do I. The wizard suits its role well enough. In fact, I just axed the distinction between wizard and sorcerer and made an uber-caster. Is it over-powered? Probably. Do I care? Not one iota.
Quote from: DarkxarthDO NOT WANT to keep staying up until 3:00 in morning working on papers that are due the nest day.
DO NOT WANT to have to wake up at 8:00 on days when I've been up until 3:00 working on a paper.
DO NOT WANT to go more than 48 hours without sleep. It's not fun.
DO NOT WANT the Fighter to be disrespected. If you do, he will rip your head off and punt it half a mile away.
DO NOT WANT all Psionic characters to be bald.
Yeah i do all of those all the time
The fighter id not disrespected. If it weren't for the fact that there are so many cool PrC's i want to try, i'd play fighters all the time. They're my favourite base blass by far. i love mass feats, they're so versatile.
My psionic characters are never bald. In fact my favourite one was a slightly crazy dwarf psychic warrior with a giant orange mowhawk. He was awesome.
DO NOT WANT this thread.
DO NOT WANT this negativity.
DO NOT WANT these acidic remarks.
What is happening to us? I know I havenâ,¬,,¢t been a model member of this community, something I will address shortly, but what is this? This isnâ,¬,,¢t us, this isnâ,¬,,¢t the CBG. We arenâ,¬,,¢t the type of people who randomly launch attacks at each other, we donâ,¬,,¢t make snide comments and snippy remarks, we donâ,¬,,¢t lash out at each other, we donâ,¬,,¢t insult each otherâ,¬,,¢s creative ideas. Thatâ,¬,,¢s the kind of, if youâ,¬,,¢ll excuse my abrasive English, shit that goes on at the WOTC boards. This is a more open, relaxed, fun community.
I know we are made of people, and I donâ,¬,,¢t expect us to be perfect. We have our tiffs, our disagreements, but up until the past few weeks, itâ,¬,,¢s (almost) always been done in a polite, respectful manner. Thatâ,¬,,¢s what the Guild has always been about, to me: polite discussion, open reasoning, and the creative process. I know I havenâ,¬,,¢t always been a model of this myself: when I resigned my Modship, I did so in the worst way I could have, by just up and leaving, not bothering to even let Ishmayl or Brainface known of my intent. Thatâ,¬,,¢s something Iâ,¬,,¢ve never apologized for, and I owe you all one for that, especially our staff here.
However, thatâ,¬,,¢s just a side note to my main point. I mention merely because I am speaking here out of a sense of community, and I still have amends to make to the community myself.
I want to think over that word. Community. It occured to me when I was typing this that thatâ,¬,,¢s what we are, though the overwhelming majority of us have never and probably will never meet face to face. We are â,¬Å"a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists.â,¬Â The larger society we are distinct from is the roleplaying community we exist within: we are the few who dare to do on paper what God did on the cosmos, and create our own reality. We do it with dice and pencil and computer, but nonetheless, we create our own worlds. However, it is more than this common interest that binds us. We are also bound by our characteristics: as arrogant as this may sound, I find the members of the Guild to be more intelligent, rational, creative, fun, and nicer than the overall run of roleplayers. I make this statement, and I bar none of our members from it, even the ones I personally have had and currently have disagreements with. Disagreement is one of the foundations of discussion and creation, so disagreement is a good thing.
I want to make sure this is clear: I think every single member of this community fits the characteristics I described, even the ones who grate my nerves on a regular basis. Also, I am not making this rant because of the isolated spite on this thread: I am making it because of the general negativity on this site in the past few weeks, and I include myself in this statement. I am as much at fault as anyone else, and I acknowledge that. Iâ,¬,,¢m doing my best to be better, to solve problems instead of causing them, and thatâ,¬,,¢s my sole intent here.
While there is nothing wrong with expressing your dislike of an idea, it should be done in a constructive manner, as opposed to just stating what you DO NOT WANT (TM). It was all fine and well when this thread was humorous: itâ,¬,,¢s becoming serious, and thatâ,¬,,¢s bothering me, as it seems to be bothering many of you.
I think we all need to take a step back and breathe: I agree fully with Angel: This forum is the best thing on the internet, hands down. Iâ,¬,,¢ve been a member of numerous, and even ran a couple, communities (I once had 23 active accounts on about 19 active boards) and the CBG is the single greatest one I have ever visited. The trend of the past few weeks disturbs me: weâ,¬,,¢ve been acting like regular internet users in many ways, and we are so much more than that. We need to relax: remember what this community was founded on: Truth, Justice, and The Cabbage Way!
Really, though, statements like that is a part of what I love about coming here. Where else can I make a statement like that and possibly get some people to grin? This is the first forum Iâ,¬,,¢ve ever been to where Iâ,¬,,¢ve felt relaxed enough to have a goofy screename: Iâ,¬,,¢ve proclaimed myself the Archbishop of Freaking Cabbage, for godssake! Itâ,¬,,¢s the most ridiculous thing ever, and itâ,¬,,¢s completely acceptable, because thatâ,¬,,¢s the kind of open, fun community we are. I love this place! I know you all do, judging from the amount of time we spend here. We donâ,¬,,¢t act like this!
This isnâ,¬,,¢t just me ranting: I have a point. Please, before you post, think about your words. Donâ,¬,,¢t post just because itâ,¬,,¢s on your mind. Deep breaths are a good thing: speaking in anger lends your words power, but they are also damaging.
Thatâ,¬,,¢s all. I want this thread to be fun, so have fun with it. Donâ,¬,,¢t feel these words were directed at you in particular, whoever you are: instead, they are meant for the community as a whole and should be taken as such.
As always, happy posting!
- Xathan.
Apparently what I said offended some people. So, here is an explination of sorts. Bascially, these are things I would not ordinarily say at risk of offending someone. So why did I say them? Some of them needed to get said. I do not want to just never say anything and let stuff go on, that's not the way I work. Some of these things that I felt had to be said really almost couldn't be said without offending someone, plain and simple.
Perhaps I should address each of my main points from above in a bit of a more civil manner.
Dice pools. I don't like them. I also don't really see the purpose of the dice pools thread. Like some of the other threads on the A New Way to Play board, it has no stated purpose, it just jumps right in. I can guess that these are splits from other threads, but to an outsider, they're just random threads that start in media res.
While it is well and good that members would devote themselves to building a new setting, I personally feel that to an outsider, it is the most vauge new system I have ever seen, and I have no clue if it will be fun, or how I can use it. What are it's rules supposed to address? Every other variant/new system I've ever seen has some kind of purpose behind it, Arcana Unearthed is high magic. Iron Heroes is action fantasy. d20 BESM is anime. Our current system has squat to this effect, plain and simple.
As for the bit about research, I was kind of frustrated when people started questioning my research on the Japanese Weapons thread, when anyone else who could have spent five minutes on Wikipedia, or at the library, or even watching the History Channel could have come up with what I had. I feel especially for something like that (and as I stated), people need to abandon their preconceptions and look at things with an open mind. While I'd like to assume that everyone did when they went to the thread, and I know that not everyone is going to do research, I can't help but feel that my work is going to waste when someone doesn't want to try and look at something with an open mind, and instead revert to what they think they know about something.
As for new mechanics, it seems that every single setting we make at the CBG uses new mechanics of one kind or another. To me, it almost feels that the entire purpose of some settings is to, and I mean this in the best possible way, show off new mechanics. It gets a little tiring when I have to read an entirely new magic system or what have you for every setting I read on the boards. I'm not saying that new mechanics are bad, its just that I feel they are a little overused here.
As for the last comment, about no one announcing they are leaving, that was probably the only hurtful thing that I may have said. I apologize, but it is really how I feel. People here seem to care more when someone takes a few weeks off from the site than when someone moves six thousand miles (~10,000 km) from home.
I don't think anything, aside from when I mentioned it above was a personal attack, but if it was construed that way, I apologize. Generally, I try to be polite as possible, but things do get under my skin like they do for everyone else. And I always feel that people should speak their minds, and should be able to get things that they don't like changed.
Again, I've tried not to offend anyone, but I just feel that sometimes things like this needs to be said. If everyone who as an objection never speaks up, then when will anything ever get changed?
QuoteAs for the bit about research, I was kind of frustrated when people started questioning my research on the Japanese Weapons thread, when anyone else who could have spent five minutes on Wikipedia, or at the library, or even watching the History Channel could have come up with what I had.
least[/i]. I'm sorry if any of my comments contributed to that impression.
As for all your other complaints, i kinda assume
everything here is done simply for kicks, with little or no
practical value. ;)
Also: I am beginning to think that stating a complaint prefixed with "DO NOT WANT", where the offending party can hear, is perhaps lacking in
tact, or something. I mean, if the guy who created grimlocks ever reads this thread, we're all going to feel like
asses.
QuoteAs for new mechanics, it seems that every single setting we make at the CBG uses new mechanics of one kind or another. To me, it almost feels that the entire purpose of some settings is to, and I mean this in the best possible way, show off new mechanics. It gets a little tiring when I have to read an entirely new magic system or what have you for every setting I read on the boards. I'm not saying that new mechanics are bad, its just that I feel they are a little overused here.
Not overused, not unless you can say in the same breath too imaginative.
Some settings are designed around a new mechanic or two. It is a common enough way to develop a setting: first change the suck-ass mechanics with one's own brilliant mechanics, then imagine a world where such are the norm, rather than trying to shoehorn your changes into someoneelse's setting, that one was never satisfied with in the first place.
I expect mechanical change in every new setting, just seems natural.
QuoteWhile it is well and good that members would devote themselves to building a new setting, I personally feel that to an outsider, it is the most vauge new system I have ever seen, and I have no clue if it will be fun, or how I can use it. What are it's rules supposed to address? Every other variant/new system I've ever seen has some kind of purpose behind it, Arcana Unearthed is high magic. Iron Heroes is action fantasy. d20 BESM is anime. Our current system has squat to this effect, plain and simple.
It is a system being created, it is vague because it is incomplete. It is also a slow process, because sometimes real life rears its ugly head and must be dealt with before time can be alotted to this project.
That said,
DO NOT WANT barbarians to be a class. :soap: Barbarian from whose perspective? Stupidest class ever.
Quote from: brainfaceI mean, if the guy who created grimlocks ever reads this thread, we're all going to feel like asses.
But we will still point and laugh at him.
DO NOT WANT Windows Vista to exist.
Quote from: PONTIFEX BRASSICUS CYMRO XIIIDO NOT WANT Windows Vista to exist.
another[/i] Windows OS.
I'm switching over to Linux next time I buy a new laptop...
Currently, Toshiba's propritery power managment system doesn't work at all in Linux, so running off of a battery is not going to work. I think I'll go for another brand.
Perhaps one with a non-integrated graphics card. Scratch that... definantly one with a non-integrated graphics card. Oh, and a bigger hard drive. 40 GB is too small. Don't need a CD or DVD burner... I just blew $200 on a high-end external from Sony.
Linux is the way to go... seriously, there are plenty of distributions that feel enough like Windows that there's barely even a learning curve.
Quote from: IshmaylLinux is the way to go... seriously, there are plenty of distributions that feel enough like Windows that there's barely even a learning curve.
I'm well aware of that, it's just that on a Toshiba laptop, you cannot use OS-based power managment, you are forced to use software-based power managment. And unfortunately, Toshiba doesn't want to provide a version for Linux. So, for now, I'm stuck with WinXP.
Quote from: Xathan, the Archbishop of CabbageThatâ,¬,,¢s all. I want this thread to be fun, so have fun with it. Donâ,¬,,¢t feel these words were directed at you in particular, whoever you are: instead, they are meant for the community as a whole and should be taken as such.
In keeping with the principles of accountability, I am obligated to disagree. My comments were probably the harshest on the forum, and while they were spoken from belief, and
I do hold to them, this isn't the place for such things. Sorry for the awkward "ooh, just a little edgy, Angel," atmosphere.
The last thing I'd want is for any bad blood between anyone on this here forum. Give me plagues, pestilence, frogs flies and the French, but never take my CBG!!!
I will beat - I will kick the serious out of you, chillen!
DO NOT WANT people to take the stuff they read here seriously!
I started this thread to vent a little about pet peeves. I knew someone might get serious here, but that's okay - sometimes people need to vent about things that aren't trivial. But taking things you read here seriously, personally and offensively is officially not allowed! Rant all you like, but no ranting back!
I don't even know if that's possible, but as the OP I'm declaring that it's a rule! I can't reach through this monitor to throttle anyone, but... but... I can yell at the neighbors! No, I can't do that. They'd smack me.
Let me just say this - if this thing starts getting heavy again, the weight of my displeasure will be felt by the neighbors cat.
That cat is going to wish he had never been born.
Thusly, the ultimate paradox. If you said to not take anything seriously on this thread, how can we take what you just said seriously? :D
I had an English teacher who stapled cats to trees once.
Yeeeeeaaaaaah...
Hmmf, I think my next two boxes will probably be OSX and Linux. But that won't be until after our company sells out and I get the big bucks for it.
Meanwhile, I'm still working on a perfectly sound W2K box. It has served me well.
An infinite game is inherently paradoxical; it's laughter arises from the players mortality, as they can only play when they know they will not conclude the game.
We are all infinite players.
This thread contains a paradox precisely because unlike many of my threads - or even many threads in general - it is a move in the infinite game.
DO NOT WANT a life without paradox!
Can you even achieve a life without paradox? It seems that we're always either too stupid or too smart to avoid it.