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Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SA on April 26, 2011, 07:44:49 PM
Yay. (http://www.pcworld.com/article/226357/sony_playstation_network_personal_user_data_stolen.html)

According to the article, hackers may have had user information for over a week. We were not informed.

I love my Ps3. I was gonna download Dragon Age Awakening and play the shit out of it, then download God of War Collection and play the shit out of that too. Instead, right now, I'm going to walk the two miles to my local branch and cancel my fucking credit card.

Siiiiiighhhhhh
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: limetom on April 26, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
You can't cancel your card by phone/interwebs?
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SA on April 26, 2011, 08:46:44 PM
Not on the internet. Also, very isolated and don't have a mobile. It's on-foot for me.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Ninja D! on April 26, 2011, 09:44:09 PM
If you're isolated and don't have a mobile phone (or, apparently a car or bike), that's all the more reason to have a land line. While I don't even follow this advice, it is better to use credit cards for these things than debit cards. That way you have some fraud protection.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Magnus Pym on April 26, 2011, 09:52:53 PM
Person to person is how business is done, IMO. Gogo CFPe (you)! Walking time (2 miles is hella short, btw... gogo!)
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SA on April 26, 2011, 10:15:17 PM
QuotePerson to person is how business is done, IMO.
And how! Teach me to be a dumbass with my personal information... (not that anything's necessarily even been stolen, but I ought to have been more sensible on general principle). I suppose there are worse ways to learn that lesson.

It's a shame about the PSN situation all around, though. It's got a lot of people super freaked out and (like myself) kind of paranoid.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: LD on April 26, 2011, 10:17:45 PM
Good luck with the cancellation. Hopefully that ensures that you will be safe.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SA on April 26, 2011, 10:24:09 PM
Oh, in retrospect, what with the 75+ million people affected, I'm not feeling too concerned given where I fall in that statistic.

Really, the only truly bothersome thing is that it took so long to be informed. That seems more than a little irresponsible to me.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SDragon on April 26, 2011, 10:51:33 PM
Fortunately, Sony doesn't have any payment info for me. I haven't bought anything from PSN. Before this happened, I was considering going through Gamestop to pay for any PSN downloads, simply because that would give me rewards on my Gamestop rewards card. Now that this has happened, I want to do it to keep my info away from Sony.

This whole issue has me quite a bit pissed, to be honest.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: LD on April 26, 2011, 10:53:22 PM
>>Really, the only truly bothersome thing is that it took so long to be informed. That seems more than a little irresponsible to me.

Oh, it certainly is. The question is if Sony falls under regulations that would have required release of that compromised data ASAP. Without perusing the law in question, I would figure that they do... and if they don't, then I forsee new laws crafted by legislatures that deal with the disclosure of the compromise of credit card data and the retention of said data. Now may be a good time to invest in data storage retention specialists... I wonder if any of these security protective companies have undergone IPOs. Hmm. The only drawback to investing would be the obvious one; hackers would naturally be attracted to cracking the most arrogant security company--and they'd eventually succeed... and there goes the stock.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Nomadic on April 26, 2011, 11:07:05 PM
Will be interesting to see how this goes. Any lesser company would be hosed by something like this. Sony may still well be hosed but we'll see whether user anger or their solid fanbase wins in the end.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Ninja D! on April 29, 2011, 01:49:24 AM
People will forget about it soon enough. Not long ago, I was informed by a different company on behalf of several others of something similar happening...probably unrelated, right? Right?!?
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: CoyoteCamouflage on April 29, 2011, 02:28:25 AM
I seem to recall something like this happening a while ago-- I forget whom it was. But that just goes to show that they did a pretty fair job of covering up the problem. Mmm. Wait. I think it might have been a BP employee lost a laptop that had enough information to compromise the identities of a few thousand people. Not quite the same, in the end, but still close, I think.

Sony also has a pretty rabid fanbase to depend on for times like this. Incidents like this may lose them more casual gamers or people with no preference to Sony because of their name, but I doubt they will truly suffer in the long-term thanks to that group of rabid maniacs.

Just look at the PS3 release debacle. If that didn't make people jump ship, then not much else will.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SA on April 29, 2011, 02:42:02 AM
They've got me hooked with Uncharted, Dark Souls, Last Guardian and the Ico/SotC HD Edition. Every other game I'd want is on PS3 but not exclusive. I ain't ditching Sony, even if I am bitching about them like a whiny child.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: sparkletwist on April 29, 2011, 04:13:40 PM
Sony's quality has gone down the toilet for a while now, and not just in gaming. Their vaio line is a complete and utter joke, too. I haven't bought a Sony product in a long time...

... and after this, have no intention of doing so any time soon.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SA on April 29, 2011, 09:03:28 PM
I briefly considered trading in my ps3 for a Wii (Twilight Princess and two Mario Galaxies!), but I could probably just trade my little sister in for one of those anyway.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Weave on April 29, 2011, 09:09:03 PM
Uncharted is a great game, IMO. I also have a really soft spot for Folklore; kind've strange game, but I think it's worth the pickup if you ever get around to it. Sadly, I haven't played Ico, Dark Souls, or the Last Guardian... though I want to. Also, Little Big Planet is amazing.

Regarding the Wii, Twilight Princess is a pretty solid game (the Mario Galaxies are great), but I imagine jumping from a PS3 to a Wii would look like a HUGE downgrade, especially in the graphics department.

Sony's been having a rough year, though. The hackings and now this? :(
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SA on April 29, 2011, 09:27:27 PM
Oh graphical downgrades are no issue. I still rock out with Ocarina of Time on the ol' 64 emulator. The virtue of the zeldas and marios is that hey are very replayable. For all that I love Dragon Age, MGS, et al, playing these next gen games always feels like some sort of commitment (and Demon's Souls just straight up spits acid in your eyes and stomps on your fingers).
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Elemental_Elf on April 30, 2011, 01:22:34 AM
Wasn't there a rumor a few weeks back that Steam was going to be available on the PS3? If so, I could see Sony ditching the PSN all together, especially after this latest debacle.

Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: LoA on April 30, 2011, 01:39:24 AM
I got so mad when they pushed the release date of the team ico bundle from spring to winter. I have however heard, that it was due to trying to improve the quality of the games. I haven't played ICO but i have played SOTC, and if they can improve on that alone than i could very will forgive this.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SA on April 30, 2011, 01:50:39 AM
Hell yes. I will enjoy SotC even when I am a crotchety grampa. If they release the remastered SotC when i am a crotchety grampa I will buy it then. But hopefullythey won't wait that long.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Ninja D! on April 30, 2011, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: Newb MSTieI got so mad when they pushed the release date of the team ico bundle from spring to winter. I have however heard, that it was due to trying to improve the quality of the games.
Sorry but when a game company says this, they're lying. Look into other possible reasons to find the real answer.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: CoyoteCamouflage on May 01, 2011, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: Ninja D!
Quote from: Newb MSTieI got so mad when they pushed the release date of the team ico bundle from spring to winter. I have however heard, that it was due to trying to improve the quality of the games.
Sorry but when a game company says this, they're lying. Look into other possible reasons to find the real answer.


I think its more misdirection than outright lying.

I mean, making sure the game is finished and playable are definitely big steps on the way to making it high quality.

From my experience, at least as a play-tester, most delays with no specific answer are usually general purpose-- bug-testing, better voice/music work, cleaning up graphics, stabilizing frame-rates. More problematic ones can be major hardware incompatibility issues (such that many people experienced with Unreal Tournament 3. Not that the game was anything but terrible even without that problem). Essentially, a little bit of everything that's needed in any game worth money. In some cases, one of these areas is causing a major SNAFU, so it slows down everything else since most steps build upon the work before it; slow down the base work, and everything following it gets pushed back too.

However, in this case, I will admit that the problem seems weird. I have little idea about how ports work, exactly-- but seeing as how the PS3 is not backwards compatible, it makes me wonder if there is extra work in any coding, never mind if they have decided to redo the engine to support HD/3D technology. Those games may be pretty, but there is no way in hell that they would look nice just slapping them onto a big screen 3D TV without more work.

So, in short, my guess is they are doing an overhaul on the game engine-- and I hope to high heaven that they aren't also shoehorning Move compatibility into it.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Weave on May 01, 2011, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: CoyoteCamouflageSo, in short, my guess is they are doing an overhaul on the game engine-- and I hope to high heaven that they aren't also shoehorning Move compatibility into it.

Ah, motion controls... how I despise thee. But that's a tale for another time.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: SDragon on May 02, 2011, 11:07:15 PM
PSN will be back up by the end of the week, and at full capacity by the end of the month, so says Sony. As an apology, they're even giving a bunch of benefits. I forget the list, but most of them looked like they amounted to "tighter security", and one was something like a confirmation of Anon's involvement. The rest were pretty cool, though. Some free PSN Plus time, it looks like.

You heard it first here.
Title: Yay, Sony
Post by: Ninja D! on May 03, 2011, 12:32:26 AM
Quote from: CoyoteCamouflage
Quote from: Ninja D!
Quote from: Newb MSTieI got so mad when they pushed the release date of the team ico bundle from spring to winter. I have however heard, that it was due to trying to improve the quality of the games.
Sorry but when a game company says this, they're lying. Look into other possible reasons to find the real answer.

I think its more misdirection than outright lying.

I mean, making sure the game is finished and playable are definitely big steps on the way to making it high quality.
Based on observation, I'd say it is also sometimes a lie to hold onto the game so it can be released at a more favorable time. I'd cite the fiasco with the recent American release of Two Worlds 2. I swear, they want that franchise to die here.