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Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on January 04, 2007, 12:59:22 PM
What's up with this guy?? (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=11079310&postcount=437)  Anyone know what he's talking about that made him rant that way?  If anyone happens to know him and which particular thread he's speaking of, I would like to know.  Maybe it's just a misunderstanding.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: SDragon on January 04, 2007, 01:08:17 PM
my theory, as i suggested over there, is that he came across www.thecbg.com and not here. y'know, those profit-based ripoffs of communities such as ours tend to run nerves ragged.

other then him having accidently going to a wrong site, i have no clue where his rant came from. honestly, i havent seen anything like what he says happen over here.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Raelifin on January 04, 2007, 01:09:42 PM
Maybe he decided to read half of the first page of the Avayevnon thread (chose to ignore my self-censorship) and based his opinion solely on that??

I'd be happy to question him and try to encourage a more open-minded approach to the guild, but I'm sure someone else would be a better fit. ;)
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Lmns Crn on January 04, 2007, 01:24:08 PM
I can't post in that thread, because I forgot my WotC logon information. :(

I certainly can't think of any specific events he might be referring to, but then again, I've been scarce around here lately for the last few months myself.

I know we've had discussions in which people have suggested that setting authors take steps to make their worlds more original, but those comments have always struck me as good-natured and constructive criticism, and not "screaming about plagiarism" or anything of that nature.

My instinct says that one of two things must have been going on. Either a misunderstanding of tone and intent occurred (considering our textual format, such things certainly can happen!), or someone used to exclusively receiving positive feedback has not yet been made aware of the gentle, healiing power of constructive criticism.

I just wish I could see the specific posts he's referring to. I assume from his posts that it's feedback to a specific setting (or more than one) that's gotten him riled, and not one of our brawls in Theme Wars or similar threads.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: SDragon on January 04, 2007, 01:36:02 PM
Quote from: Luminous CrayonI just wish I could see the specific posts he's referring to. I assume from his posts that it's feedback to a specific setting (or more than one) that's gotten him riled, and not one of our brawls in Theme Wars or similar threads.

it's possible he was refering to those, but i agree; it seems more like he was refering to one or more setting thread(s).

the "elitist attitude" he mentions, though, could be that we do tend to talk less casually then some might be used to. i mean, you've got to admit, the phrase "textual format" isn't exactly something that pops up in most peoples' day-to-day conversations.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Lmns Crn on January 04, 2007, 01:37:59 PM
Sorry; I'm just a word nerd.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: SDragon on January 04, 2007, 01:44:04 PM
no apology needed, as far as i'm concerned. personally, i appreciate the way that sort of intelligence pops up here. remember, i'm the guy who posted a geometric formula in the draggons den a few months ago. even got some help on refining it, too.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Poseptune on January 04, 2007, 02:22:46 PM
It was me, I'm so sick of the... J/K.

I can't imagine what he/she is talking about.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Wensleydale on January 04, 2007, 03:14:18 PM
No... whoever it is obviously has serious Angst against the rest of the world.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Epic Meepo on January 04, 2007, 03:21:10 PM
Oddly enough, Hochiu's only posts were back in August of last year, so whatever prompted his criticism must not have stemmed from something that was said in response to one of his own posts.

If he ever posts a link to whatever it was that rubbed him the wrong way, someone be sure to post it here so I'm sure to see it. I'm interested to find out what specific instances he's talking about.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Lmns Crn on January 04, 2007, 03:36:50 PM
Quote from: Epic MeepoOddly enough, Hochiu's only posts were back in August of last year, so whatever prompted his criticism must not have stemmed from something that was said in response to one of his own posts.
Seems that way to me, unless he's just been sitting on this criticism for a while before posting about it.

He says he visited the site for a while, went on hiatus for a while, and saw the things that bothered him after he returned from hiatus. So I assume the things he's objecting to happened during the hiatus.

If I were a betting man, I'd lay money on the rants in the Seraphine_Harmonium's thread, which were largely self-regulated by the people who posted them, even before mod action was taken. I get a sense that they were left in their original posts in the spirit of full disclosure, to avoid giving the impression that they were posted to flame, then edited away to make the perpetrators seem more innocent. And if you ask me, if you're going to post a rant like that, that's exactly how you ideally should handle it afterward: leave the record of what you said, but mitigate the rancor and bile.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Elven Doritos on January 04, 2007, 05:09:07 PM
Bah. Our standing policy is that anyone who is offended by posts should report it to the mods. We're not mind-readers or anything-- if something offends you, contact us.

Please, one request. If you have problems, contact the mods in an attempt to correct it before bad-mouthing us to large (and influential) audiences.
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Post by: Seraph on January 04, 2007, 06:45:13 PM
I also am guessing that it was the comments in my thread.  That is the only place I have even seen those kind of comments here.  That makes me feel special . . . but I'm not sure that that's a good thing :roll:
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Numinous on January 04, 2007, 06:55:59 PM
I was such a nubcake  (http://www.thecbg.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2969.0#post_3015) back then... x.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: DeeL on January 04, 2007, 07:01:22 PM
For my part, I agree with Hochiu!  And he should be gone, the thin-skinned dweeb, if he can't take the instructive bite of sarcasm or the perditious cleansing of scorn!  If it were not for the piercing light of disdain with which we shield ourselves from the vagaries of mere fashion and the trivial tide of novelty, this forum would be a hodge-podge of ideation, random contemplation, and frivolous frippery!

...oh wait, that's kind of what we are, isn't it?  Never mind.



Edit: Okay, hold it.  I just realized that could be taken the wrong way, especially the word 'trivial'.  This site isn't trivial to me - I truly enjoy what I read here, and feel genuinely guilty at my own dearth of productive posts.  I perceive herein a spirit of inspiration combined with erudition that refreshes the mind of the reader, or at least this one, and even those posters who probably don't consider themselves erudite demonstrate a sincere effort at innovation that occasionally succeeds wonderfully.

This whole post was more or less a joke, and should be read as such - funny, or an attempt thereat, and at worst truly trivial.

You may now continue with your regularly scheduled musing.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: SA on January 04, 2007, 09:09:20 PM
I think your post works most effectively when you don't put the disclaimer at the end, DeeL.  That's the problem with explaining your words: the sheer fact that you need to do it diminishes their quality.

Oh yeah, and kudos on the purple prose.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Fullmetal_Alchemist on January 04, 2007, 09:26:15 PM
I think people just like to say things that they don't even mean to... :blah:
Maybe he is just mad because there are to many people on the WoTC threads and posting like crazy?
If that is the reason, I don't see no reason why he should get mad over that.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Soup Nazi on January 05, 2007, 02:24:55 AM
I can't say for certain what he's refering to. It would probably be a bit easier to tell if the whole thread was linked instead of the singular comment he responded with. There have been very very few threads on the CBG to carry a negative tone, so I cannot imagine how he got scared off so easily.

I have a nice relationship with some of the folks over at the Myth Weavers site, and I know at least a few of them read the stuff over here, since people are running adventures in my Sulos campaign setting (with my approval of course). I suspect there are quite a few lurkers/non-members who simply come here looking for ideas, but have no intention of actually making an exhaustive campaign setting all their own. Maybe Hochiu's just got a complex.

-peace-
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Wensleydale on January 05, 2007, 07:59:17 AM
This has become important enough to me that my wizards account is gonna stop gathering dust and allow me to travel deep into the heart of the enemy!

Or something along those lines, anyway.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Matt Larkin (author) on January 05, 2007, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: GolemThis has become important enough to me that my wizards account is gonna stop gathering dust and allow me to travel deep into the heart of the enemy!

Or something along those lines, anyway.
Well then, there is only one way to solve such a mystery:

A game of CBG Clue!

Whodunit?

Was it Colonel Crit in the Chatbox with the Glowing Crayon?

No, he has alibi.

Professor Phoenix in the Dragon's Den with the Cabagestick?

Mwahaha....
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Elven Doritos on January 05, 2007, 04:13:48 PM
Quote from: Phoenix KnightWell then, there is only one way to solve such a mystery:

A game of CBG Clue!

Whodunit?

Was it Colonel Crit in the Chatbox with the Glowing Crayon?

No, he has alibi.

Professor Phoenix in the Dragon's Den with the Cabagestick?

Mwahaha....

It was the butler.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Wensleydale on January 05, 2007, 05:29:33 PM
No, it was Reverend Golem in the Homebrews section with his large selection of campaign matter.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Endless_Helix on January 06, 2007, 07:42:07 AM
Or was it Whipping Boy Helix, with the Whip, in the Arena?

But, as I'm not entirely sure what he's talking about, I might post in the thread and ask him to show precisely what ticked him off. I think he's just trolling for posts to make himself feel better, but to each his own.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on January 06, 2007, 09:21:26 AM
He hasn't responded yet, I think he probably realizes he either spoke out of place, or too soon.  Either way, I have doubts we'll hear back from him; he's been online a couple times since then and still hasn't said anything.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Numinous on January 06, 2007, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: Hochiu @ WotCHeh, oh no. Don't worry about what was referred to my post there. I've been feeling rather out of sorts lately and I think the food poisoning I got the other day pretty much just caused me to go off on a pretty nasty tangent and I apologize for insinuating anything negative about it. I more or less left the forum just because I didn't have time to check so many, I'm fairly terrible at keeping up with online forums.

I wasn't trying to antagonize, just point out what I've seen, and again, I'm apologizing for it if I insulted anyone.

Umm...  What?  How is what he said not antagonistic, and he didn't recant his statements at all so...  What?

Also, Ish, :wtf: is up with your turtle?
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Matt Larkin (author) on January 06, 2007, 11:46:19 AM
His turtle also has food poisoning.
Title: ... da HELL???
Post by: Ishmayl-Retired on January 06, 2007, 11:50:09 AM
He's a turtle of many colors