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Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Velox on February 17, 2007, 01:13:28 PM
"and his name who sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him" Revelations 6:8

The world has been burned into ash, destroyed in a storm of nuclear fire. Now the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse - War, Pestilence, Famine, and Death - ride the land and give birth to abominations straight from humanity's nightmares (see "Fun with Gun Monsters" thread).

Help me think up cool Horsemen themed monsters!

(Note: Deadlands: Hell on Earth is not D20 based; but concepts and ideas are welcome and indeed, it's what I'm after.)

Fun fact: The word apocalypse means "the lifting of the veil", and this is where the term "revelation" comes from in the new testament. It has been written in some versions as "the Apocalypse of John".
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: So-Keher on February 17, 2007, 02:06:43 PM
Pestilance: Take the idea of the creature from oriental adventures made from worms but instead make him a mas of disease-ridden flies. His form would take that of a humanoid and he wears a cloak, etc. to disguise his appearance from a distance. His horse is sickly and weak looking but in actuality very strong.

Special attacks:
enervating touch
nauseating gaze: target must succeed will save or become nauseated for X rounds. (actual effects up to you)
stench of rot: any creatures within a radius of 50 feet of pestilence must make a will save every round (or 2 maybe). A failed save means the character has contracted a disease (chosen at random). The disease stays until it is removed. by wish, miracle, etc.  Once a character contracts a disease he cannot get another from the same effect for the duration of the encounter (no stacking)
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: So-Keher on February 17, 2007, 02:11:42 PM
Pictures for Inspiration!

[spoiler=Famine or Pestilence?](http://wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_48.jpg)[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Guys like these with guns for minions of War](http://wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_4.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=another](http://wizards.com/dnd/images/mmiii_gallery/82972.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Matt Larkin (author) on February 17, 2007, 02:42:24 PM
A classic grim reaper image, but on a horse for death.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: SDragon on February 17, 2007, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: So-KeherPictures for Inspiration!

[spoiler=Famine or Pestilence?](http://wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_48.jpg)[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Guys like these with guns for minions of War](http://wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_4.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=another](http://wizards.com/dnd/images/mmiii_gallery/82972.jpg)[/spoiler]

MM2?

phoenix, the traditional image of the grim reaper is on a horse. i think the idea of a skeletal monk (not Monk, as in the class, mind you) would fit, though.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: So-Keher on February 17, 2007, 04:22:16 PM
Quote from: sdragon1984- the S is for penguinMM2?


Yeah one of them lol
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Matt Larkin (author) on February 18, 2007, 05:43:14 PM
Quote from: sdragon1984- the S is for penguinphoenix, the traditional image of the grim reaper is on a horse. i think the idea of a skeletal monk (not Monk, as in the class, mind you) would fit, though.
I disagree.  I have never seen this except when tied to the horseman.  I would argue the classic (the word I used) image is Charon, the boatman.

To be certain I Wikied it (when in doubt...).  The only mention of a horse is when tied to Death (the horseman).

More importantly, the image of Death as a Monk rocks!  Instead of a scythe, give him a kusari-gama.  Come, you know you want to see him do a back-flip.  Flurry of slay living!
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Stargate525 on February 18, 2007, 06:00:44 PM
Quote from: Phoenix KnightMore importantly, the image of Death as a Monk rocks!  Instead of a scythe, give him a kusari-gama.  Come, you know you want to see him do a back-flip.  Flurry of slay living!
why does he have to have a long curved famring implement in the first place? Oddly enough, it's from later on in revelation, and it isn't even a scythe, it's a sickle.

Be weird, give death a mace.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: the_taken on February 18, 2007, 07:49:04 PM
Longsword, battleaxe, bone hammer. Dagger. If it can kill you, the reaper will know how to use it, and he'll probably be hidding one in his big spooky robe.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: So-Keher on February 18, 2007, 09:26:49 PM
He shouldn't even need weapons. Maybe a gaze of death or something like a bodak.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Velox on February 20, 2007, 02:22:14 AM
According to Deadlands game canon, nobody knows what the big "D" looks like because just seeing him is enough to kill you. Everybody pretty much just goes offa old Blue Oyster Cult albums and Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life". It's not like getting close enough to peep the guy would be easy; there's gotta be an army of zombies and undead horrors follwing the guy around.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: SDragon on February 20, 2007, 08:37:02 AM
Quote from: Stargate525
Quote from: Phoenix KnightMore importantly, the image of Death as a Monk rocks!  Instead of a scythe, give him a kusari-gama.  Come, you know you want to see him do a back-flip.  Flurry of slay living!
why does he have to have a long curved famring implement in the first place? Oddly enough, it's from later on in revelation, and it isn't even a scythe, it's a sickle.

Be weird, give death a mace.

it isn't used as a weapon, but rather as a tool for harvesting the souls of the dead. as pointed out, a weapon in the hands of the embodiment of our ultimate demise is just.... silly.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: beejazz on February 21, 2007, 12:25:07 AM
Death should not necessarily be skeletal. His avatar, maybe... but Death itself should look a hell of alot scarier... alternately, consider a snappy Ghede-esque death in a black suit, tie, and tophat. Give him a cane and glasses with one blacked out lens.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Velox on February 21, 2007, 01:27:03 AM
oooh, dapper death!

I'm not talking about Mr. Rieper here. No, this "Death" isn't a simple underworld public servant. This "Death" is a manifestation of destruction, a tool of wrath, showing the facet of human death in its purest form; just plain dead. Definately menacing and horrible as hell.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: beejazz on February 22, 2007, 12:03:32 AM
Then show it as a corpse. And an immobile and inanimate corpse at that. There's nothing creepier than getting your ass kicked by something that doesn't even move.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2007, 12:22:02 AM
Death shouldn't have a weapon. War should be all about the weapons, but beath is DEATH! he doesn't need a weapon. He just kills you. The scythe or sickle makes sense for the harvesting part.

Quote from: V - L0XAccording to Deadlands game canon, nobody knows what the big "D" looks like because just seeing him is enough to kill you. Everybody pretty much just goes offa old Blue Oyster Cult albums and Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life". It's not like getting close enough to peep the guy would be easy; there's gotta be an army of zombies and undead horrors follwing the guy around.
Much though it seems right, i wouldn't expect death to be surrounded by undead. If he's death, shouldn't he be pissed off by these souls not being in the afterlife where he sent them? I would expect his to give a final death to any undead that he comes across.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Velox on February 22, 2007, 01:52:18 AM
Who cares where they are? This life, afterlife, as long as they're dead. Again, this isn't the IRS of souls here, this guy just wants death and lots of it.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: beejazz on February 22, 2007, 01:54:35 AM
Or gravity powers! It seems like a bit of a stretch for Death, but having it bear a resemblance to a small singularity would be crazy.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Velox on February 22, 2007, 02:15:20 AM
Hmm... gravity powers... where the hell did that come from? Gravity powers are pretty cool but... hey, doesn't a supernova create a black hole or somesuch? Singularity as in the "death of a star"? It's obscure, but that's generally allright. My players will consternate and puzzle for weeks as to why the black hole monster was a "death" servitor, but who cares?
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: beejazz on February 22, 2007, 02:27:30 AM
Could also work like that one angel from Eva... the one where the orb was its shadow and the thing itself was some kind of inverted AT field or spacial anomaly (The ground underfoot turned black and you sank into it) But yeah... The black hole of death is (at least) scary and alien.
Title: ...and I looked, and behold a pale horse
Post by: Velox on February 22, 2007, 04:55:18 AM
It'll actually work great in Deadlands: Lost Colony; the game of Sci-Fi Spacefaring alien horror. There really isn't anything more scary than the unknown, and there's nothing we know less about than a completely alien solar system; not to mention the infinite darkness of space. Exploring desolate old space hulks used to scare the crap out of me.