The Campaign Builder's Guild

So, we seem to be going through a bit of a slow spell. This is understandable and I do not think it is much of a problem, because we are a site dealing with massive creative endeavors which don't tend to spring up overnight.

I'm wondering where our action actually is. I know it's here.

Are people still dropping by the IRC channel? (I lost the data on that one, so I might need a little guidance to find my way back.) Are people posting most of their recent stuff on our sister sites, the Cartographer's Guild (http://forum.cartographersguild.com) and Plotstorming Dot Com (http://www.plotstorming.com/forum/index.php)?

Are we all just stewing over pet projects privately before posting about them here?

Tell me yours and I'll tell you mine.

I have been posting a lot lately (well, a lot compared to normal). But i agree, there's not a lot happening.
I'm willing to review a setting if that helps and anybody needs it? As long as the gods don't play too big a role :p

I'm slowly working on my setting, steadily trying to refine my DM and campaign creation abilities.  I have also recently decided to switch to 3d "dungeon tiles", using Hirst Arts molds.

I do, however, love talking about things I'm interested in.  Maybe I should create a random thread on something awesome.

M.

Crippled Crow has been posting like a fiend :D

I'm personally in a bit of a creative slump, I can't seem to focus on any of my settings, and am stuck on this digital world idea, my original premise was ripped to shreds by Vreeg (a good thing, because he made excellent resonating points, and the fact that I couldn't answer/explain means I need to rework it). That and I'm obssessed about this stupid dream (the sentient acid one).

I've made some head way in reconciliating them but still >_<

Also Crippled Crow, if you want to take a look at something of mine that has no Gods try The Calm in the Eye of the Realmstorm. There are no gods/worship. I think that the Powers in Divergence would be too close to Gods for you (at least in ability). Also the Tough Worlds thread has all kinds of stuff that passes through my head.

Finally, I posted my Prismatic stuff on PlotStorming, and got one reply :D

Quote from: CheomeshI do, however, love talking about things I'm interested in.  Maybe I should create a random thread on something awesome.

If you're in a thread-making mood, I'd like to hear more about these dungeon tiles.

I forgot, but we have a steady amount of people in the mIRC channel.

Usually myself, SDragon and snakefing. Vreeg lurks often enough and Nomadic/Ishmayl have stopped by.

Quote from: LlumCrippled Crow has been posting like a fiend :D

Well thank you :D
Although i am kinda wondering what i have been doing with all my time the last couple of days. :p
i never really got the mirc up and going, and i'm not really sure i should devote my time to it (for my time's sake).

I have a bit more time now that the Christmas retail season is over, so I've been stopping by the chat room (I'm there right now!), and I've actually been goofing in my Memory Fading setting a bit more, so there may possibly be some updates soon.  Doodlie-Doo!

Quote from: dTKI've actually been goofing in my Memory Fading setting a bit more, so there may possibly be some updates soon. Doodlie-Doo!

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I'm very busy with things that do not involve worldbuilding. The combination of my course at university, my social life, and my love of spending at least a sixth of my time doing next-to-nothing leave me... not posting very much. Not that I ever was the most prolific CBGer anyway :P

Quote from: KindlingNot that I ever was the most prolific CBGer anyway :P

Fair enough, but you do have the best icon. :yumm:

Eschaton is still a ways off, though I hope to post it eventually. Maybe about the time CBG 2.0 is up  :-p

I've been working on a few short stories, though I've drifted away from Plotstorming for Critters. I've also been looking for a different job. And of course, I just back from India a few weeks ago.

I've majorly dropped off in my posting lately due to school-related stuff.  I also ended up scrapping large amounts of text for the Cadaverous Earth (some races and work on the various regions) - after reading it over I was dissatisfied with the result, felt that a lot of it didn't fit well enough into the world, etc.  I'm trying to jump into writing some more but I may be very sporadic over the next few months, compared to my almost daily updates a couple of months ago...

I've been doing a few things with my Sangoshou setting and on my notes thread, but if people don't respond to them my thoughts start to drift.

I may be the pilot, but I like asking for directions. :P

Between my weekly tuesday afternoon DnD games, training in the gym, and my job I started not even 2 months ago all my time gets eaten up pretty quickly. :(

But despair not, I'm still checking by the site and voting (almost) each day. Also, I'm already brewing something new. Since I got into the Runes of Magic MMO open beta test a desire has grown inside my to design a linear gaming system for a MMO-style game. And it slowly takes shape... :D

Quote from: PhoenixEschaton is still a ways off, though I hope to post it eventually. Maybe about the time CBG 2.0 is up  :-p

I've been working on a few short stories, though I've drifted away from Plotstorming for Critters. I've also been looking for a different job. And of course, I just back from India a few weeks ago.

What is this Critters you speak of?

I have been temporarily kidnapped by the cartographers guild. I am currently in the process of making two maps. One is for the current contest, the other is an updated map of Meishgon (which Xeviat is generously helping me on). However I still am running the commoners campaign and currently tinkering with the quick play rpg system. Furthermore I just got my fees paid off and was approved for financial aid for college. So that's also eating up some time as I prepare. I won't be gone forever, it's just a time when I am a bit distracted by other stuff.

Quote from: Crippled CrowI'm willing to review a setting if that helps and anybody needs it? As long as the gods don't play too big a role :p

Hey, I don't even allow gods in my stuff anymore.  :axe:

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Quote from: Crippled CrowI'm willing to review a setting if that helps and anybody needs it? As long as the gods don't play too big a role :p

Hey, I don't even allow gods in my stuff anymore.  :axe:

I'll have to let you review my setting once it gets back on track. There are no verifiable real gods (and there are many conflicting religions). A bit like the real world.

Quote from: NomadicI'll have to let you review my setting once it gets back on track. There are no verifiable real gods (and there are many conflicting religions). A bit like the real world.

Well then I should also be clear that I don't allow magic or any kind of psychic powers either.  I like my universes to be based on the unintelligent things.

Not that this matters too much in someone else's setting.

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Quote from: NomadicI'll have to let you review my setting once it gets back on track. There are no verifiable real gods (and there are many conflicting religions). A bit like the real world.

Well then I should also be clear that I don't allow magic or any kind of psychic powers either.  I like my universes to be based on the unintelligent things.

Not that this matters too much in someone else's setting.

Well my "magic" is low powered and scientifically plausible (it is just another type of energy akin to kinetic or heat or light, etc).

Quote from: NomadicWell my "magic" is low powered and scientifically plausible (it is just another type of energy akin to kinetic or heat or light, etc).

Then count me quite interested. :detect:

So, I promised I'd spill what I've been up to lately, so here it is. I just posted a thread called "Jade FATE", which is a fun little conversion of a marvelous system for my own use in the Jade Stage. It's ready for your perusal, though more details on some magic have yet to be added.

I'm also doing some work that will be posted on the Cartographers' Guild, though they don't know it yet. I am doing hand-drawn maps of some more of my continents, to add to my tiny little gallery on that site.

Not least, I still have big plans for my own wiki over here, and have been resolving to update that information for a few days now. Maybe I will eventually get around to actually typing it up!

Finally, I posted a new contest a couple of days ago, and I am eagerly awaiting some entries (though interested parties have plenty of time to organize their thoughts.)

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Quote from: PhoenixEschaton is still a ways off, though I hope to post it eventually. Maybe about the time CBG 2.0 is up  :-p

I've been working on a few short stories, though I've drifted away from Plotstorming for Critters. I've also been looking for a different job. And of course, I just back from India a few weeks ago.

What is this Critters you speak of?

Critters (http://www.critters.org/index.ht). A large internet critique group for writers of speculative fiction.

It's quota-based criting, meaning you have to give before you get.

These days, I've been busy reading and commenting on Paizo's forums for the upcoming Pathfinder RPG.

Though I do stop by here most days to vote and check the Recent Threads list. And I actually posted a new thread here the other day. But it was nothing intensive, and only earned a few brief comments.

Quote from: SilvercatMoonpawHey, I don't even allow gods in my stuff anymore.  :axe:

You should change your name to Lady of Pain.

I can't help not coming... I need my Warcrack AND my Warheroine 40k!!!!

So between my Warcraft and my Warhammer 40k addictions I'dve found dedicating time to the CBG difficult at best. =( Currently I'm debating between updating Kamalga, (creating, then) posting the setting bible to my Mecha Sci-Fantasy setting Eldersa or posting my avatar-inspired 4E setting Bhularaj (each magical power source (Arcane, Divine & Primal) are substitutes for the elements). Decisions, decisions...

I have always been more of a lurker than a poster. ;)  

Wake doesn't get much reading or commentary on the Wiki, and I've reached some creative barriers with the setting, in actual play, that have hampered its development.  The campaign I currently run in Wake is ending soon due to player schedule change, but I'll be starting something new in a more traditional fantasy setting.  I'll post this threadbare creation on the forum when time permits as I've always valued the feedback of this community.

Quote from: EladrisWake doesn't get much reading or commentary on the Wiki, and I've reached some creative barriers with the setting, in actual play, that have hampered its development. The campaign I currently run in Wake is ending soon due to player schedule change, but I'll be starting something new in a more traditional fantasy setting. I'll post this threadbare creation on the forum when time permits as I've always valued the feedback of this community.

We need a Wiki Awareness Campaign of some kind. Stuff on the Wiki seems to get ignored by everybody except the other wiki users, and it seems that many of those (myself included) just look at the top few entries of the "Recent Changes" list.

I'd be interested in hearing about Wake's creative barriers, because I always thought Wake was damn cool.

Quote from: Luminous CrayonWe need a Wiki Awareness Campaign of some kind. Stuff on the Wiki seems to get ignored by everybody except the other wiki users, and it seems that many of those (myself included) just look at the top few entries of the "Recent Changes" list.

Well I know that I personally forget that the wiki even exists.  Besides I find stuff easier to deal with on a forum than a wiki.

Quote from: Luminous CrayonStuff on the Wiki seems to get ignored by everybody except the other wiki users, and it seems that many of those (myself included) just look at the top few entries of the "Recent Changes" list.

I check the Recent Changes daily and ask questions when I'm confused about content on a page I assume is not a stub, but I agree.  It feels like new Wiki content is better off posted first on the forum and moved to join the bulk of a body of work after critique here.

Quote from: Luminous CrayonI'd be interested in hearing about Wake's creative barriers, because I always thought Wake was damn cool.

Another thread worth starting, which I may do with my lunch hour today, provided I take one!

LC,
(and all assembled)

I'nm still going through my busy season, so there is not much time for me to do more than drop a few notes here and there.  I've also taken on more idiotic responsibilities at work.  

There is, of course, the boy.  He's not quite six months old now. That eats time alive.

And I am still keeping up with my live groups.  Igbar played last night, mainly a logistical session, taking advantage of some political capital, apologizing to a church for breaking another toy healer, hitting on a married guildmistress of the Alternative School of Magicand avoiding assassination attempts.  And rolling up a new pc, as they lost another one.  Well attended, 6 players, so only missing one and a half players.  5 bottles of wine, including a 96 Dunn Cabernet, pulled pork and ribs dinner.

Also, My Igbarians have been made aware of the LC creative challenge, and I threw them some bribes as well.

I am guilty of ignoring the wiki, and not using it, or looking at stuff people post there. For some reason, while wikipedia and similar sites can engross me for hours, when it comes to settings and worldbuilding, I prefer to absorb the information in the form of a forum thread.

Although i have posted on the wiki myself, I must admit to not checking it regularly for a couple of reasons:
1) I see it as an addition to the forum and generally (wrongly) assume everything that comes to the wiki passes through the forum as well.
2) It's next to impossible to decipher what changes are major/in need of a review and what changes are fairly minor (yes, we have that minor change button-thing, but still)
3) There is a lot of stuff.
4) discussion pages seem slightly impersonal and you barely notice them. I only just recently noticed that Vreeg had commented on my campaign science page (thanks, by the way)

Don't take this the wrong way though; i think the wiki is a great addition and asset and will definitely post some of my updated stuff as soon as i feel it's ready. The above points were just to clarify the reasons i didn't use it extensively.

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Quote from: CheomeshI do, however, love talking about things I'm interested in.  Maybe I should create a random thread on something awesome.

If you're in a thread-making mood, I'd like to hear more about these dungeon tiles.

Sure, I'll post a thread up.

I've also been trying to movitave myself to practice more longsword material, but it's cold outside and my ceiling is low :|

M.

Myself, I've been busy. However that was only recent (last few months).

I believe I'm also burnt out and unable to focus. There is still stuff for my setting floating around in my head, I just can't make it come out and that's been the case for the last year or so. With work taking up much of my time and frustration about the inability to focus I had stopped visiting for a while. Only recently have I even been looking at the Tavern and opening a few threads (my last post of substance was on Oct 16.). I'm hoping as work starts to wind down I will start contributing to the community once again (though I highly doubt it will be in the form of new stuff on my part), not that I contributed much before either. :(

Quote from: Luminous CrayonWe need a Wiki Awareness Campaign of some kind.

Here's the problem I've seen regarding the Wiki; between the Recent Posts list and the Recent Changes page, you can only pick one as the place you visit first when you come here.

Before the Wiki, everyone wanting to read new setting info was directed to a single location. Now, visitors are being split into two categories: those that go right to the forums and those that go right to the Wiki. There's no longer a central clearing ground for new setting information.

Presumably, a parallel argument exists with the Tavern and the IRC chatroom.

Sometimes, I wonder if the CBG really is slower than normal. Are there really fewer settings being actively worked on at the moment; or are there more active settings than ever, just no one knows it because no one can see more than half of them in one location?

Quote from: KindlingFor some reason, while wikipedia and similar sites can engross me for hours, when it comes to settings and worldbuilding, I prefer to absorb the information in the form of a forum thread.

You know, I've noticed the same thing. I think it has something to do with the amount of information available.

On Wikipedia, I might start by reading about comets, but end up reading about flint-lock firearms, having traversed several dozen tangentially-related pages in the process. That's entertaining because its an entirely different process than reading a linear forum post.

On a setting wiki, I might start by reading one aspect of a setting, then move on to reading another aspect of the same setting, with no chance of passing through any tangential topics. That's still entertaining, but it's virtually the same process as reading a linear forum post. So why not just start with a linear forum post in the first place?

For a setting wiki to really capture the Wikipedia feel, it's going to need to be huge. And I don't mean 10 pages huge or Forgotten Realms sourcebook huge. I'm talking full-immersion huge. Thousands of pages. So huge I can start reading about the setting's races and end up reading about some (fully-detailed) diplomatic incident involving some (fully-detailed) philosopher who influenced the (fully-detailed) first dynasty of the (fully-detailed) kingdom that was responsible for the (fully-detailed) technology used by the setting's (fully-detailed) elves. All without exhausting even a small fraction of the information available on the setting at large.

I find web design for organizing the reams of information that develop for a setting (especially for personal use). Much of this information tends to be non-linear, and it's nice to be able to just link to the appropriate pages.

Wiki is basically simple web design loosely collected along with other settings.

I tend not to post stuff on the forums much anymore. I guess I could, but really, stuff on the forums doesn't get that many reviews either.

I tend to only review wiki stuff, and only in spurts.

BTW, you can sign up to be emailed when people change your watched pages (just like watched threads), so you don't miss comments.

Hmm. My last post came across sounding much more anti-wiki than I had intended.

What I was attempting to do was merely to argue through hyperbole that a forum post and a wiki page are going to create similar experiences for the reader unless the wiki page is part of a vast collection of wiki pages.

I wasn't trying to argue the relative merits of either media.

Lately I've been spending most of my creative time on GURPS and planning out the GURPS campaign I will be running over yonder (http://rpol.net/game.cgi?gi=34399&date=1231837408).
[spoiler]If anyone is interested in playing that that campaign, or observing as a lurker to get an idea of how the system works, you're welcome to come.[/spoiler]

I only look at the forums.  The last time I checked out the wiki was ags ago and I don't much care for it.  I doubt there's anything that'd increase my affection for it, as the forums provide a simple, orderly, intuitive interface that's easy to use and understand, and are more conducive to dialogue.

Quote from: Luminous CrayonAre we all just stewing over pet projects privately before posting about them here?

That one. My system's shaping up and nearing completion, at least in terms of general applications (character creation, skill system, magic system, combat system, etc.). I'm working on my least favorite part right now (weapons and armor... tedious, but necessary work). Soon I'll have the general stuff up and be asking for help on specifics (spell lists, race ability brainstorming, feats and what they should do).

I want to post something I've already got fairly complete this time around. Maybe even see about setting up playtests on the pbp section.

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Quote from: KindlingFor some reason, while wikipedia and similar sites can engross me for hours, when it comes to settings and worldbuilding, I prefer to absorb the information in the form of a forum thread.

You know, I've noticed the same thing. I think it has something to do with the amount of information available.

On Wikipedia, I might start by reading about comets, but end up reading about flint-lock firearms, having traversed several dozen tangentially-related pages in the process. That's entertaining because its an entirely different process than reading a linear forum post.

On a setting wiki, I might start by reading one aspect of a setting, then move on to reading another aspect of the same setting, with no chance of passing through any tangential topics. That's still entertaining, but it's virtually the same process as reading a linear forum post. So why not just start with a linear forum post in the first place?

For a setting wiki to really capture the Wikipedia feel, it's going to need to be huge. And I don't mean 10 pages huge or Forgotten Realms sourcebook huge. I'm talking full-immersion huge. Thousands of pages. So huge I can start reading about the setting's races and end up reading about some (fully-detailed) diplomatic incident involving some (fully-detailed) philosopher who influenced the (fully-detailed) first dynasty of the (fully-detailed) kingdom that was responsible for the (fully-detailed) technology used by the setting's (fully-detailed) elves. All without exhausting even a small fraction of the information available on the setting at large.

hmm... if there are links to related articles... why not have links to articles relating to similar topics in other settings? It might be fun to drift from one magic system to the next without worrying about the rest of the setting, if that's what you're in the mood to look at.

Just a thought. Not sure how it would be implemented.

Edit: Haven't been there in a while. Just went. I love the mythology resource.

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Quote from: Epic Meepo

Quote from: KindlingFor some reason, while wikipedia and similar sites can engross me for hours, when it comes to settings and worldbuilding, I prefer to absorb the information in the form of a forum thread.

You know, I've noticed the same thing. I think it has something to do with the amount of information available.

On Wikipedia, I might start by reading about comets, but end up reading about flint-lock firearms, having traversed several dozen tangentially-related pages in the process. That's entertaining because its an entirely different process than reading a linear forum post.

On a setting wiki, I might start by reading one aspect of a setting, then move on to reading another aspect of the same setting, with no chance of passing through any tangential topics. That's still entertaining, but it's virtually the same process as reading a linear forum post. So why not just start with a linear forum post in the first place?

For a setting wiki to really capture the Wikipedia feel, it's going to need to be huge. And I don't mean 10 pages huge or Forgotten Realms sourcebook huge. I'm talking full-immersion huge. Thousands of pages. So huge I can start reading about the setting's races and end up reading about some (fully-detailed) diplomatic incident involving some (fully-detailed) philosopher who influenced the (fully-detailed) first dynasty of the (fully-detailed) kingdom that was responsible for the (fully-detailed) technology used by the setting's (fully-detailed) elves. All without exhausting even a small fraction of the information available on the setting at large.

hmm... if there are links to related articles... why not have links to articles relating to similar topics in other settings? It might be fun to drift from one magic system to the next without worrying about the rest of the setting, if that's what you're in the mood to look at.

Just a thought. Not sure how it would be implemented.

Edit: Haven't been there in a while. Just went. I love the mythology resource.

In a roundabout way, that is certainly possible.  For instance, several of the wiki users have set up their religions with a special "Religions" category, which will then direct them to other wiki users' religion.  We may need to go into more detail on the "page creation page" on how to really make things flow better there.

I think some of the comments here are very informative, especially about the wiki and forums dividing up the posts.  I've told brainface that I wouldn't spill too many plans on CBG2.0 in case certain things don't work out (and for a second reason that we have suspicions that someone from another similar site has stolen a few ideas we've spoken of here), but here's a thought and you guys tell me how useful you would find it.

Each person would have their own special "Campaign setting" page, which could link to all forum posts, have a wiki RSS update feed, etc.  Do you think that is something that would help the particular flow?

Well just to note, I started on the wiki. Then I ground to a complete halt. This Creative Commons Liscence (CCL). I'm extremely wary of things like this (almost paranoidly so). I like the forums because it bluntly states that whatever I post is my own stuff, no matter what (as long as its not copyright infringement).

Also the ability for other people to edit my stuff makes me very wary. However as far as I can tell I'll be able to track whoever edits my stuff which is nice. I guess it just comes down to my paranoia in the end :p

A campaign setting page for each member could be useful, as long as it was really really easy to use. Like... posting on a forum easy (you just type stuff and hit post... sure there's tags, but there's also buttons at the top for just about everything).

If you could do something like that, I'd absolutely love it.

I think that would be useful, Ishy.

I think possible even more useful would be to have the "recent forum posts" list on the main thread also display recent Wiki changes, mixed right in. (Perhaps with the option to filter out the list, so as to view only forum posts or only wiki posts when looking for a particular thing.)

Also, boo on the suspected idea parasites. Bad form.

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QuoteAlso the ability for other people to edit my stuff makes me very wary. However as far as I can tell I'll be able to track whoever edits my stuff which is nice. I guess it just comes down to my paranoia in the end

Reasons why This is Not Something You Need to Worry About[/u], a short presentation by LC

1.) All previous versions of a page are saved. You can always easily revert back to a page's previous version, undoing any potential editing mischief someone may have caused.

2.) All wiki changes are logged, so if someone is bothering your pages, you will know who it is. Ishmayl and other admins will be swift to ban any troublemakers (as we have recently seen, with a brief bout of wiki graffiti (all on brand new pages, not people's setting information) that was cleaned up (and the perpetrators' accounts removed) even before I noticed it existed.

3.) Unwanted wiki editing has never ever been a problem since we started the wiki, and I don't expect it to start.

4.) Wiki editability allows us to help each other, by correcting typos, fixing category pages and broken links, and so on. I edited other people's pages extensively to redirect links when Sparkletwist implemented her wonderful new link template (as did several others), and I've had my own pages helpfully fixed for numerous structural improvements. This is a benefit.

5.) Wiki security is an idea that is already in the works. We've been kicking around various ideas to give wiki users the option to protect their pages from others' editing, and I'm sure these ideas have not been abandoned (I suspect they're part of CBG2.0). It's coming along.

Llum,
The Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) very clearly states a much better protection for you than my little statement at the bottom of this page (perhaps I should fix that someday?).  You own the full copyright to any work you put up on the wiki, however, by nature of the internet (being so public and all), you are allowing other people to take your work and share it if they see fit to do so (which they can also do with any forum posts you make anywhere, or any essays you write for school).  However, unlike when not having a License at all, those other people who take your work MUST, by design of the License, give you full Attribution, not collect any sort of money for your work, and may not make any sort of modifications to your work without your express permission.  Quite frankly, it's basically telling you what all amateur writers tell you about their own stuff, but this is legally binding, so no one can screw you.  It really is in-and-for your own benefit and interest that this License was adopted.  Otherwise, with no legal binding, anything you posted anywhere (even here on the forums) could be taken by someone else, changed to that person's own liking, and sold for a profit at your sorrow, and you couldn't really do much about it.  On the wiki, there is a dated timestamp for anything you add, so if there's ever a dispute, you will always be able to prove that you were the original author.  It's win-win all around, really.

I wish I could send a lawyer to every single person on the site to explain to them the benefits of such a license, but I guess you'll have to just trust the word of me, all the members using the License, and the literal millions of artists, authors, songwriters, creators, etcetera who use similar Licenses to protect their hard work.  

I hope to see you continue putting things on the wiki.

Quote from: beejazzA campaign setting page for each member could be useful, as long as it was really really easy to use. Like... posting on a forum easy (you just type stuff and hit post... sure there's tags, but there's also buttons at the top for just about everything).

If you could do something like that, I'd absolutely love it.

Quote from: Luminous CrayonI think that would be useful, Ishy.

I think possible even more useful would be to have the "recent forum posts" list on the main thread also display recent Wiki changes, mixed right in. (Perhaps with the option to filter out the list, so as to view only forum posts or only wiki posts when looking for a particular thing.)

Thanks for that, I hope other people will find that useful as well.  LC, that's pretty much the plan we have for it, the main page will have several different feeds on it to show recent updates in a particular author's preferred internet media format (wiki, forum, something else).

Cheers!

[blockquote=HIS ISHINESS]but this is legally binding, so no one can screw you. It really is in-and-for your own benefit and interest that this License was adopted. Otherwise, with no legal binding, anything you posted anywhere (even here on the forums) could be taken by someone else, changed to that person's own liking, and sold for a profit at your sorrow, and you couldn't really do much about it. On the wiki, there is a dated timestamp for anything you add, so if there's ever a dispute, you will always be able to prove that you were the original author. It's win-win all around, really.[/blockquote]

Don't ever doubt that the turtle is looking out for you.

Yeah, I was a little eeehhh about the Wiki's Creative Commons license, but only until I actually learned what it means and what it does.

It kicks ass, and is awesome, and I have absolutely no worries or reservations about the information I have on the wiki, under that license.

Edit: I want to call attention to this, because it is important:

Quote from: IshmaylThanks for that, I hope other people will find that useful as well. LC, that's pretty much the plan we have for it, the main page will have several different feeds on it to show recent updates in a particular author's preferred internet media format (wiki, forum, something else).

not only[/i] has the site's administration already seen the need for whatever I thought of before I even mentioned anything, but frequently they also take things a few blocks farther down Awesome Street.

This site's administration is
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so cool.

@Ishy

Yes, that would be very, very cool.

Maybe I could start a thread discussing the European Martial Arts?

M.

I hope to start using the wiki for at least one, maybe both worlds. I'm just not wiki savvy and that intimidates me in using it. I don't want to mess mine or anyone else entry up.

Llum, just so you know, we didn't get to the wiki this weekend, because we just had a big, awesome breakthrough on the CBG2.0 and worked on it.  However, getting a WYSIWYG editor set up properly on the wiki is the next thing on our agenda, and I'm hoping to be able to get it going tomorrow during my day off.

Quote from: RavenspathI hope to start using the wiki for at least one, maybe both worlds. I'm just not wiki savvy and that intimidates me in using it. I don't want to mess mine or anyone else entry up.

Wiki "coding" is not too difficult, really. I personally find coding a body of text to be posted on the wiki to be easier than coding a body of text, using bbcode, to be similarly displayed on this forum. I'll be glad to answer any specific questions you may run across. (Sparkletwist and Ishmayl would also be great sources for you-- I hate to volunteer their help, but they're better at it than me.)

It's really hard to actually mess anything up on the wiki. Any page can be "reverted" to any previous version of that page whenever you like, undoing any number of changes that may be undesirable. Also, you'd have a tough time doing anything to the Jade Stage wiki presence (for example) unless you were actually editing Jade Stage pages in complicated ways (if you just want to correct my typos or something, mind you, I'm fine with that. That's one of the nice things about group-editability.)

If you are having trouble getting things looking the way you want them to, or if you're worried you've caused a rare problem, somebody will be glad to help you fix it.

Quote from: Ishmaylgetting a WYSIWYG editor set up properly on the wiki is the next thing on our agenda, and I'm hoping to be able to get it going tomorrow during my day off.

And I must request quite emphatically that this editor be optional and easily turnable-offable. I'm a sysop on another mediawiki with a WYSIWYG editor and it is nothing but trouble.

Oh, it'll be set up as a gadget that anyone can turn off or on in their preferences.  I prefer the standard mark-up too, so I certainly wouldn't sacrifice my own usability. :) :)