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Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 07, 2006, 02:23:27 PM
I am now searching for six players for a playtest of my mana point system. The campaign will be RP light, combat/trap heavy; it will be a Super Dungeon (think Diablo 1; one big dungeon that keeps going deeper and deeper). The story will be bare, but I'll do my best to ensure that the encounters are exciting.

I need six players, and I'm hoping to have the following classes in the party: paladin, bard, cleric, druid, sorcerer, and wizard. That way, all of the classes get tested, but the group is not without a warrior or expert. The resources allowed will be PHB, DMG, and my MP system only. The game will start at 1st level and hopefully progress to 20th.

I know that PbP allows people to come and go at their whim, but I'd like (in addition to regular check ins) to devote a non-work non-school night where the players will be available to make frequent posts. Remember, it is 13 encounters per level and only 52 weeks in the year; one encounter per week will be very slow going (so I'd like to get through as many encounters as possible).

Please, let me know if you're interested. 6 players is all I need.

PS: It might be possible to extend testing to multiclass and prestige classed characters. The sorcerer and druid slots will thus be open to possible multiclassed or prestige classed characters (agian, using PHB and DMG resources only). Thanks.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Raelifin on June 07, 2006, 02:27:05 PM
Wait, are we talking about characters that start at level 1 and go to level 20?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 07, 2006, 02:48:56 PM
Yes. On second thought, I will increase the XP and treasure so that level ups come quicker ... 260 encounters would be a lot.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Raelifin on June 07, 2006, 02:54:32 PM
I'd make it level up per 2 encounters. What's starting stats?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 07, 2006, 02:59:42 PM
I'd like to be in on this.
What are the starting stats (point buy or roll)?
What material is allowed?
Any other variant rules being used?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 07, 2006, 03:14:55 PM
Stats: Point Buy (32 points)
Material: PHB, DMG, and my MP system
Variant Rules: None; though I am considering "Charging Smite" in place of the paladin's mount, since the game won't be condusive to mounted combat.

If I'm going to accellerate leveling, it will be a level per full day of encounters. I'm shooting for 4 encounters per day, ranging from EL party average-3 to EL party average+2 (to get a good spread of easy and difficult encounters).
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 07, 2006, 03:22:47 PM
I'm in!

Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Numinous on June 07, 2006, 03:44:20 PM
Well, I'd love to.  If the 3E profiler gets back online anytime soon, you can count me in.  I'm not sure what I'd play though...  Maybe a sorcerer...

Anyway, if 3E doesn't come back online anytime soon, if I get a really good BBcode character sheet, then I'll be in anyway.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 07, 2006, 04:24:59 PM
I have never done the PbP thing, so this might be the time to start.
Bard, maybe.      
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 07, 2006, 04:41:06 PM
Well, that's 4 people, plus Raelifin (I don't know if he intends to join or not).

Please, in the mean time, read over the Mana System (it's in the Post Articles). Within the week I'll have my site up, so you'll be able to access the spell lists and domain lists. And ASAP, let me know what you're interested in playing: Crit and CYMRO have expressed interest in Sorcerer and Bard respectively.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 07, 2006, 04:52:50 PM
I was thinking of making a druid
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Raelifin on June 07, 2006, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: Xeviat TranionWell, that's 4 people, plus Raelifin (I don't know if he intends to join or not).
Eh, probably not. I was just trying to help find a more realistic goal than a prospective 4 year, all combat game.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: limetom on June 07, 2006, 05:41:45 PM
I'm in.  I'd like to be the Paladin.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 07, 2006, 06:16:25 PM
QuoteStats: Point Buy (32 points)
not[/i] up for a 2 or 3 year playtest :).
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 07, 2006, 06:31:06 PM
No, PHB standard is 4d6 drop the lowest, which averages out to 32 when you consider that around a third of those results are dropped by the PHB rules. Technically, if everyone's willing to use the default array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8; that's what the game was tested with), that would be the best.

If I level everyone after each day (4-5 encounters), I think things will work.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 07, 2006, 06:34:41 PM
The default array is a 25 point buy.

If you would rather us use that array I have no problem with it.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 07, 2006, 06:53:16 PM
nah, 4d6 drop lowest comes out to the default array, which can be bought with 25 points (i've tested this :()

unless you're saying "drop results with no roll lower than 12, or less than a +1 total mod" gives about a 32 point buy. i didn't test that...

[edit]
the average rolls of 4d6, drop the lowest, abandon rolls with no number >12, abandon rolls with a total mod of less than 2, is the standard array (15,14,13,12,10,8)

barring programming error.

(not that it necessarily matters)


Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 07, 2006, 07:30:42 PM
The average on a 4d6 drop the lowest is 12.25; I've tested it as well. This rougly comes out to 5 12s and 1 13, which adds up to 25. But, 18s, 17s, 16s, and 15s are worth more, and there are no point values for rolls under 8 ... this skewed the results when I tested 4d6 drop the lowest x6; I ended up with a number close to 31.5.

I used 32 point buy for a long campaign; as long as you generate monsters with the default array, combats are balanced; creatures with standard 3 10s and 3 11s are 1 CR lower vs. 32 point buy characters.

For simplicity, I guess I'll go with default array (16s are just too expensive in 25 point buy).

Limetom's expressed interest in a Paladin;
Neptune a Druid;
Crit a Sorcerer;
CYMRO a Bard;

Brainface, supdadupa? Want to duke it out for the cleric and wizard?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 07, 2006, 09:26:29 PM
QuoteFor simplicity, I guess I'll go with default array (16s are just too expensive in 25 point buy).

So, you mean 32? :confused1:
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 07, 2006, 09:38:29 PM
here's how yo dit, xeviat :)
[spoiler=IHAVESTRONGOPINIONS]
[note]caveat: I'm mostly assuming this is right because i came up with the method on the spot, and it came out matching the elite array with no tweaking at all. I also have the code for this, if anyone wants to check some python code. :/[/note]
The average roll is not 13,12,12,12,12,12
roll 4d6 drop the lowest, 6 times
then SORT the rolls, highest to lowest.
do it several times. add all the highest together, all the second highest together, etc. and take the average.

that is:
roll1: [17, 13, 12, 9, 6, 6]
roll2: [15, 14, 13, 12, 9, 3]
roll3: [14, 14, 14, 13, 12, 11]
roll4: [11, 9, 8, 7, 6, 6]--too low, ignore

avg = (17+15+14)/3, (13+14+14)/3, (12+13+14)/3, (9+12+13)/3, (6+9+12)/3, (6+3+11)/3

or an average stat roll of 15,13,13,11,9,8 for these 3 sets of rolls
(i just made these rolls up off the spot. but i made i program to do ten thousand ability rolls, so i think i got it, barring logic errors :))

you're getting an average of 5 12s and 1 13, but you aren't sorting, nor keeping it in an array. however, stat rolls don't come in 1 value, they come in 6 :)

minor trivia--the actual number of dropped ability rolls according to the phb came out to about 15%
[/spoiler]

Quote from: XevBrainface, supdadupa? Want to duke it out for the cleric and wizard?
meh, i got dregs.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 07, 2006, 10:01:12 PM
brainface, I love you ... in that platonic brotherly sort of way (didn't men in plato's day have little boys ... scratch that). You're one of the first people in a long time to go the extra length to prove me wrong without being a dick about it. Bravo.

Can we say dick on these boards?

And what's dregs?

No, CYMRO, I'm thinking I'm going to use default array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8) for simplicity, unless everyone would prefer to have control of their own point buy.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 07, 2006, 10:07:38 PM
Never in the plato way! No! :(

dregs means i'm taking whatever class is left.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xathan on June 07, 2006, 10:15:39 PM
Any room still left in this? if there is room, I'll join. All the fun classes are taken, but I can have fun with whatever - if no one cares, I'd like to pick up Wizard.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 07, 2006, 10:50:24 PM
Xathan, supdadupa already seemed interested. I'll give him some time, then you can come in. If you're Wizard, then the one with the gray and wrinkled face is Cleric.

Oh, and it' won't be entirely combative; I'll try to motivate you and make the enemies interesting. Just don't expect a whole lot of time to go by RPing. If everyone ends up liking their characters a lot, we can do some IRC rping.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 07, 2006, 11:38:11 PM
I notice there's no non-spell casters. Is this what you want (get in more playtesting)?

Also when you say 4-5 encounters per day, that's in-game days right? cause if that's IRL days then i don't have that much free time.

If we just want spellcasters then i guess i'll make a cleric. If we want a rounded party, i'll maybe do a fighter or rogue or something (barb?)

Also what is the starting gold?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 08, 2006, 12:45:32 AM
Yes, no non-spell casters. Notice, though that the primary roles (warrior, expert, divine, arcane) are filled.

Xathan, it seems like you were late for the preliminary casting. It is going to be almost another month before I have time to truely start, so maybe someone will drop out by then.

Supa: if you want to be a wizard, that means brainface is the cleric. You cool with that brainface?

I'll have the full mana system up very soon (I'm writing the class pages right now). Once it's up, I'd like everyone who wants to play to read up on the system thouroughly.

And ... um ... starting gold will be the average GP from the  PHB starting gold tables.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 08, 2006, 06:07:56 AM
I'll be the cleric unless brainface wants it. if he wants cleric then i'd be cool with wizard. Either way is fine.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Túrin on June 08, 2006, 07:28:44 AM
Hm, an ambitious project, going from level 1 to 20 in a six-player-PbP. I'll be keeping my eye on this. Good luck trying to find a night that seven people will be willing and available for a PbP.
In general, good luck on this.
Túrin
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 08, 2006, 07:42:25 AM
Quote from: Xeviat TranionCan we say dick on these boards?

And what's dregs?

No, CYMRO, I'm thinking I'm going to use default array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8) for simplicity, unless everyone would prefer to have control of their own point buy.

Yes you can say dick.

Dregs are a nomadic desert people featured prominently in Terry Pratchett's Jingo.

Default array is fine with me.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 08, 2006, 11:54:39 AM
Quote from: TúrinHm, an ambitious project, going from level 1 to 20 in a six-player-PbP. I'll be keeping my eye on this. Good luck trying to find a night that seven people will be willing and available for a PbP.
In general, good luck on this.
Túrin

It's going to take a lot of work. I'm most worried about visualizing a grid for everyone; I can keep my own board, but is it better to set up a table that I update or just to tell people grid codes? (Hobgoblin 3 moves from A1 to B7 and charges)

Currently, what night is the best for everyone? I'm free every weeknight from 6 pm till 10 pm (Pacific Daylight Savings Time) except Friday night, and I'm free Saturday night from whenever till whenever.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Numinous on June 08, 2006, 12:59:41 PM
I'm free sunday nights all summer.  I'm in EST time zone, just for reference.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 08, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
I'm free mostly whenever and am on Eastern time


Here is a WotC thread  (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=230645)where people have tested online text maps for campaigns being played there. They are time consuming, but they do help keep everyone on the same page.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 08, 2006, 02:30:52 PM
hmm... i may not be able to be in tahis if we're playing so often. I am going to be working full time (including frequently in the evening).

We'll see, but i gotta work out my schedule before i can givre you an answer.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 08, 2006, 03:17:51 PM
QuoteI'm free every weeknight from 6 pm till 10 pm (Pacific Daylight Savings Time)

So 3pm till 7pm EST fits fine into my life just fine.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 08, 2006, 03:34:02 PM
UM Cymro if you are on Eastern Standard Time then 6pm-10pm would be 9pm-1am for you
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 08, 2006, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: NeptuneUM Cymro if you are on Eastern Standard Time then 6pm-10pm would be 9pm-1am for you

Just call me CYM-Doh!

   :doh: :doh:
Oops, I am backwards today.....

Well, the first hour or so of that will work for my schedule on nights I work.   I usually know my schedule one week in advance, barring emergencies.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Numinous on June 08, 2006, 04:26:24 PM
yeah, I'm, going to be trying to go to bed around 11 or so, so any time earlier would be nice...
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 08, 2006, 06:05:34 PM
As long as you swing by a few times a day to check if your turn is up, and to familiarize yourself with what went on, we should be fine. I'd still like one day where we'll all be on as much as possible, but no worries.

OH, and my campaign setting page is finally up. There's no info on my campaign setting just yet, but the MP system is completely posted.

Here's the Link:
Three Worlds Campaign Setting and Xeviat's OGC Works (http://www.thecbg.org/settings/29/index.html)
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 08, 2006, 09:21:05 PM
Checking several times a day is no problem.  
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 09, 2006, 04:16:37 PM
Excellent. So, is everyone on board? If you are, please read up on the MP system so you'll be familiar with it when we start next month.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 09, 2006, 04:25:55 PM
Quote from: Xeviat TranionExcellent. So, is everyone on board? If you are, please read up on the MP system so you'll be familiar with it when we start next month.

Do you have an idea of a start date yet?

Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 09, 2006, 06:31:46 PM
Most likely after the 4th of July. I need time to plan ahead a few weeks, and I need to give you all time to familiarize yourself with the MP system (which shouldn't take much time if you know the XPH system), and so you can work with me on making your characters (for the most part, just make the stats with 25 point buy and average starting wealth for your class and email it to me; I'll review it and respond).

Perhaps someone who hasn't already signed up to play would be interested in working with me on making the adventure? It could be saved and utilized later as a playtest-dungeon for other rules.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 09, 2006, 06:37:41 PM
July 4th or so is good.
25 pb is even better.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 09, 2006, 06:45:02 PM
CYM, so you are going to read up on the system? Email me your character as soon as you know what you are going to make.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 09, 2006, 06:48:28 PM
Quote from: Xeviat TranionCYM, so you are going to read up on the system? Email me your character as soon as you know what you are going to make.

Will read through it again tonight and send you the stats on the human bard, Cul le Pettour, tonight or in the morning.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 09, 2006, 07:06:42 PM
Super. Is anyone else around?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 09, 2006, 07:15:59 PM
OH, and to keep this thread alive and purposeful, I'm taking suggestions on things people would like to see in the superdungeon. Even if you're not playing, please offer your ideas.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 09, 2006, 08:46:25 PM
I would actually maybe be willing to switch over to helping create the dungeon.
I like doing this and also i'm not sure if my schedule will be able to fit in really frequentr playing. I don't have much time to write this, but i'll think it over some more and give a decision later on.

If i do play, i will either be a human cleric of some sun god, or a dwarven cleric of a volano god.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 09, 2006, 09:21:21 PM
Sounds good Supa; if you do play, just pick two domains, I won't stress about the specific god stuff. If you want to work with me on the dungeon instead, email me at XeviatJAG@gmail.com
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 10, 2006, 05:28:56 PM
I don't know if you are looking for more, but here is my druid so far. If I am missing anything, just tell me.

Almax Cadwyn
M Human Druid 1
N
Exp:0
[spoiler=Stats]
[table=Abilities]
[tr][th]Ability[/th][th]Score[/th][th]Mod[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]STR[/td][td]
13
[/td][td]
+1
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DEX[/td][td]
14
[/td][td]
+2
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CON[/td][td]
10
[/td][td]
+0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]INT[/td][td]
10
[/td][td]
+0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WIS[/td][td]
14
[/td][td]
+2
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CHA[/td][td]
12
[/td][td]
+1
[/td][/tr][/table]

[th]HP[/th][th]AC [/th][th]Flat [/th][th]Init[/th][th]BAB[/th][th]Grap[/th][th]Speed[/th][th]Fort[/th][th]Ref[/th][th]Will[/th]
08
15
[th]Touch [/th][td]
12
13
+02
+00
+01
30ft
+02
+02
+04

[table=Attacks]
[tr][th]Bonus[/th][th]M or R[/th][th]Weapon[/th][th]Damage[/th][th]Critical[/th][th]Range[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]+01[/td][td]Melee[/td][td]Shortspear[/td][td]1d6+1[/td][td]x2[/td][td]20â,¬,,¢[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]+02[/td][td]Ranged[/td][td]Sling [/td][td]1d4+1[/td][td]x2[/td][td]50'[/td][/tr]
[/table]

Languages:
- Common

[table=Skills]
[tr][th] Total Mod [/th] [th]Skill Name[/th][th]Ranks[/th] [th]Ability
Mod[/th][th]Misc[/th] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+04
[/th][td] Concentration (Con) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
0
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+05
[/th][td] Handle Animal (Cha) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
1
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+06
[/th][td]Heal (Wis) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+06
[/th][td] Knowledge(Nature) (Int) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
0
[/td][td]
+2
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+04
[/th][td] Listen (Wis) [/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+04
[/th][td]Spot(Wis)[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[/table]

Feats:
- Magical Talent
- Spell Focus(Conj)

Class Features:
- Animal Companion
- Nature Sense
- Wild Empathy

Human Racial Traits:
- Medium
- Bonus Feat
- Bonus Skill points
- Favored Class Any

[th]Spell Points/Day[/th]
04
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Equipment and Money]
[table=Equipment]
[tr][th]Name[/th][th]Price
(gp)[/th][th]Weight
(lb)[/th][th]Location[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Leather Armor[/td][td]
10.00
[/td][td]
15.0
[/td][td]Worn[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Buckler[/td][td]
15.00
[/td][td]
5.0
[/td][td]Left Arm[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ShortSpear[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
3.0
[/td][td]Shoulder[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sling[/td][td]
--
[/td][td]
4.0
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bullets(10)[/td][td]
0.10
[/td][td]
5.0
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Backpack[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
2.0
[/td][td]Shoulder[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spell Component Pouch[/td][td]
5.00
[/td][td]
2.0
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x4 Trail Rations[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
4.0
[/td][td]BackPack[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Flint & Steel[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
--
[/td][td]BackPack[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Soap[/td][td]
0.50
[/td][td]
1.0
[/td][td]BackPack[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WaterSkin[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
4.0
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Belt Pouch[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
0.5
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x3 Sunrod[/td][td]
6.00
[/td][td]
3.0
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wooden Holy Symbol[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
--
[/td][td]Neck[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Totals:[/th][th]46.60[/th][th]
48.5
[/th][th] [/th][/tr]
[/table]

[table=Coins]
[tr][th]Gold Pieces[/th][td]2[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Silver Pieces[/th][td]13[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Copper Pieces[/th][td]10[/td][/tr]
[/table]
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Appearance] The lean human bent in front of a hairy wolf, stands to his full 5'7" in height. His short brown hair sits in a tangled mess on top of his head. Almax watches the gray and white wolf panting in front of him with his deep brown eyes. He pulls back his gray cloak, exposing his leather armor, light yellow tunic, and brown pants, and lifts a small stick. The wolf's yellow eyes light up as he notices the stick. Almax throws it as far as he can, and in an instant the wolf is off. He stands there laughing as his four legged friend chases the small stick. [/spoiler]
[spoiler=Animal Companion]
WOLF
Medium Animal
Hit Dice: 2d8+4 (13 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 50 ft. (10 squares)
Armor Class: 14 (+2 Dex, +2 natural), touch 12, flat-footed 12
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+2
Attack: Bite +3 melee (1d6+1)
Full Attack: Bite +3 melee (1d6+1)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Trip
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent, Link, Share spells
Saves: Fort +5, Ref +5, Will +1
Abilities: Str 13, Dex 15, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 6
Skills: Hide +2, Listen +3, Move Silently +3, Spot +3, Survival +1*
Feats: TrackB, Weapon Focus (bite)
Environment: Temperate forests
Organization: Solitary, pair, or pack (7â,¬'16)
Challenge Rating: 1
Advancement: 3 HD (Medium); 4â,¬'6 HD (Large)
Level Adjustment: â,¬'
Tricks: Attack, Down, Come, Track, Heel, Stay
Bonus: Fetch

Combat
A favorite tactic is to send a few individuals against the foeâ,¬,,¢s front while the rest of the pack circles and attacks from the flanks or rear.
Trip (Ex): A wolf that hits with a bite attack can attempt to trip the opponent (+1 check modifier) as a free action without making a touch attack or provoking an attack of opportunity. If the attempt fails, the opponent cannot react to trip the wolf.
Skills: *Wolves have a +4 racial bonus on Survival checks when tracking by scent.[/spoiler]

Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 10, 2006, 08:02:57 PM
Cul le Pettour
M Human Bard 1
N
Exp:0
[spoiler=Stats]
[table=Abilities]
[tr][th]Ability[/th][th]Score[/th][th]Mod[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]STR[/td][td]
11
[/td][td]
+0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DEX[/td][td]
12
[/td][td]
+1
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CON[/td][td]
12
[/td][td]
+1
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]INT[/td][td]
12
[/td][td]
+1
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WIS[/td][td]
10
[/td][td]
+0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CHA[/td][td]
15
[/td][td]
+2
[/td][/tr][/table]

[th]HP[/th][th]AC [/th][th]Flat [/th][th]Init[/th][th]BAB[/th][th]Grap[/th][th]Speed[/th][th]Fort[/th][th]Ref[/th][th]Will[/th]
07
15
[th]Touch [/th][td]
11
14
+01
+00
+00
20ft
+03
+03
+02

[table=Attacks]
[tr][th]Bonus[/th][th]M or R[/th][th]Weapon[/th][th]Damage[/th][th]Critical[/th][th]Range[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]+00[/td][td]Melee[/td][td]Longsword[/td][td]1d8[/td][td]19-20/x2[/td][td]--[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]+01[/td][td]Ranged[/td][td]Shortbow [/td][td]1d6[/td][td]x3[/td][td]60'[/td][/tr]
[/table]

Languages:
- Common
- Draconic

[table=Skills]
[tr][th] Total Mod [/th] [th]Skill Name[/th][th]Ranks[/th] [th]Ability
Mod[/th][th]Misc[/th] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+06
[/th][td] Bluff(Cha) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+06
[/th][td] Perform (Sing) (Cha) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+06
[/th][td]Perform (string inst. (Cha) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+05
[/th][td] Concentration (Con) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
1
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+06
[/th][td] Diplomacy (Cha) [/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+03
[/th][td]Knowledge (local)(Int)[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
1
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+03
[/th][td]Knowledge (history)(Int)[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
1
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+03
[/th][td]Knowledge (dungeoneering)(Int)[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
1
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+03
[/th][td]Knowledge (geography)(Int)[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
1
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]
+06
[/th][td]Use Magic Device(Cha)[/td][td]
4
[/td][td]
2
[/td][td]
0
[/td] [/tr]
[/table]

Feats:
- Magical Talent
- Great Fortitude

Class Features:
- Bardic Knowledge
- Bardic Music
- Inspire Courage +1

Human Racial Traits:
- Medium
- Bonus Feat
- Bonus Skill points
- Favored Class Any

[th]Mana Points/Day[/th]
05
Spells:
Summon Monster I
[/spoiler]


[spoiler=Equipment and Money]
[table=Equipment]
[tr][th]Name[/th][th]Price
(gp)[/th][th]Weight
(lb)[/th][th]Location[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Studded Leather Armor[/td][td]
25.00
[/td][td]
20.0
[/td][td]Worn[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Lt. Wooden shield[/td][td]
3.00
[/td][td]
5.0
[/td][td]Left Arm[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Long Sword[/td][td]
15.00
[/td][td]
4.0
[/td][td]Right Hand[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Shortbow[/td][td]
30.00
[/td][td]
2.0
[/td][td]shoulder[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]20 arrows(10)[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
3.0
[/td][td]Back[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Backpack[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
2.0
[/td][td]Shoulder[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spell Component Pouch[/td][td]
5.00
[/td][td]
2.0
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x4 Trail Rations[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
4.0
[/td][td]BackPack[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Flint & Steel[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
--
[/td][td]BackPack[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WaterSkin[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
4.0
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]mandolin[/td][td]
5.00
[/td][td]
3.0
[/td][td]shoulder[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x4 Sunrod[/td][td]
8.00
[/td][td]
4.0
[/td][td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Totals:[/th][th]99.00[/th][th]
53.00
[/th][th] [/th][/tr]
[/table]

[table=Coins]
[tr][th]Gold Pieces[/th][td]1[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Silver Pieces[/th][td]0[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Copper Pieces[/th][td]0[/td][/tr]
[/table]

[/spoiler]
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 10, 2006, 09:29:42 PM
CYMRO: I looked over your character sheet. I like the formatting :P. Your longbow should do 1d6 not 1s6 :) and your speed would be 20ft because you are carrying a medium load. Your base saves are Fort=0, Ref=2, and Wis=2, so your saves should be Fort=+1, Ref=+3, and Wis=+2. Your ac should be 15 (+3 Studded Leather, +1 Light wooden shield, +1 Dex). I may be wrong, it has happened on rare occasions...or was that all occasions. I can never remember.

If anybody see anything wrong with my character please point it out, so that I can fix it.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 10, 2006, 09:59:51 PM
Correct on all but Fort save.  I took Great Fortitude as a feat, so +2 on Fort saves.

And what is wrong with 1s6 damage?     :duh:

And yes, the format is great.  Just cut and paste!! :devil:
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 10, 2006, 10:05:29 PM
You know I read that as one of your feats, but it just didn't dawn on me when I was looking at your saves. *Chalks up another mark in the wrong count*
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: limetom on June 10, 2006, 10:33:16 PM
Sergei Mikailov
Lawful Good Male Human Paladin 1
XP: 0

[spoiler=Stats]
[table=Abilities]
[tr][th]Ability[/th][th]Score[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Str[/td][td]13[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Dex[/td][td]10[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Con[/td][td]13[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Int[/td][td]10[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wis[/td][td]13[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Cha[/td][td]14[/td][/tr][/table]

[th]HP[/th][th]AC[/th][th]Touch[/th][th]Flat[/th][th]Init[/th][[th]BA[/th][th]Grp[/th][th]Spd[/th][th]Fort[/th][th]Ref[/th][th]Will[/th]
11
141014
+0
+1+2
30 ft.
+3+0+1

[table=Attacks]
[tr][th]Bonus[/th][th]Weapon[/th][th]Damage[/th][th]Critical[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]+2[/td][td]Bastard Sword[/td][td]1d10+1[/td][td]19-20/x2[/td][/tr][/table]

[th]Langauges[/th]
Common

[table=Skills]
[tr][th]Mod[/th][th]Skill[/th][th]Ranks[/th][th]Ability Mod[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]+6[/td][td]Diplomacy[/td][td]4[/td][td]+2[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]+4[/td][td]Knowledge (Religion)[/td][td]4[/td][td]+0[/td][/tr][/table]

[th]Feats[/th]
Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Bastard Sword)
Weapon Focus (Bastard Sword)

[th]Class Features[/th]
Aura of Good
Detect Evil
Smite Evil 1/day

[table=Spells/Mana]
[tr][th]Mana Points/day[/th][td]0[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Level[/th][th]Spells[/th][/tr]
[tr][th]1[/th][td][/td][/tr]
[tr][th]2[/th][td][/td][/tr]
[tr][th]3[/th][td][/td][/tr]
[tr][th]4[/th][td][/td][/tr][/table][/spoiler]

[spoiler=Equipment]
[table=Equipment]
[tr][th]Name[/th][th]Price (gp)[/th][th]Weight (lbs)[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Bastard Sword[/td][td]35[/td][td]4[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Chain Shirt[/td][td]100[/td][td]25[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Backpack[/td][td]2[/td][td]2[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Holy Symbol, Wooden[/td][td]1[/td][td]-[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Rations, Trail x4[/td][td]2[/td][td]4[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sunrod x2[/td][td]4[/td][td]2[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Waterskin[/td][td]1[/td][td]4[/td][/tr][/table]

[th]Wealth[/th]
5 gp
[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Appearance]
This human stands approximately 6 feet tall. His long black hair is suprisingly well kempt, and partially covers his silver eyes.  A small scar descends from the outside corner of his right eye. A holy symbol of some deity unfamiliar to you hangs from his belt.  His countenace displays single-minded resove and you are unsure whether it is bravery or fatalism.[/spoiler]
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 10, 2006, 10:58:09 PM
Interesting name choices so far.  Very cultural...
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 10, 2006, 11:58:09 PM
Neptune, you are missing an end bracket in your saves row, so we cannot see your will modifier.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 11, 2006, 12:03:10 AM
I have no WILL.

Thanks I fixed it.

3 humans so far....
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 11, 2006, 12:07:37 AM
Humans rule!
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 11, 2006, 12:16:44 AM
gnome ftw!

Gaspar Helio
â,,¢'š NG Gnome Wizard
Exp:0
[spoiler=Stats]
[table=Abilities]
[tr][th]Ability[/th][th]Score[/th][th]Mod[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]STR[/td][td]8[/td][td]-1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DEX[/td][td]13[/td][td]+1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CON[/td][td]16[/td][td]+3[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]INT[/td][td]16[/td][td]+3[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WIS[/td][td]10[/td][td]0[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CHA[/td][td]8[/td][td]-1[/td][/tr][/table]

HP: 7
Init: +1
Speed: 20 ft.
AC: 12* (touch 12*, flat-footed 11) +4 dodge vs. Giant
BAB: +0 Grapple: -5
Fort: +3 Ref: +1 Will: +2 +2 vs. Illusions

[table=Attacks]
[tr][th]Bonus[/th][th]M or R[/th][th]Weapon[/th][th]Damage[/th][th]Critical[/th][th]Range[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]+0*[/td][td]Melee[/td][td]Dagger[/td][td]1d4-1[/td][td]19-20/x2[/td][td]--[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]+2*[/td][td]Ranged[/td][td]Dagger[/td][td]1d4-1[/td][td]19-20/x2[/td][td]10'[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]+2*[/td][td]Ranged[/td][td]Light Crossbow[/td][td]1d8[/td][td]19-20/x2[/td][td]10'[/td][/tr]
[/table]
*+1 vs. goblinoid or kobold

Languages:
- Common, Draconic, Giant, Goblin, Gnome

[table=Skills]
[tr][th] Total Mod [/th] [th]Skill Name[/th][th]Ranks[/th] [th]Ability Mod[/th][th]Misc[/th] [/tr]
[tr][th]+7[/th][td] Concentration (Con) [/td][td]4[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+7[/th][td] Knowledge (Arcana) (Int) [/td][td]4[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+7[/th][td] Knowledge (Dungeoneering) (Int) [/td][td]4[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+4[/th][td] Listen (Wis) [/td][td]2[/td][td]0[/td][td]2[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+7[/th][td] Spellcraft (Int) [/td][td]4[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+0[/th][td] Spot (Wis) [/td][td]0[/td][td]0[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[/table]

Feats:
- Extra Preparation

Class Features:
- Summon Familiar

Gnome Racial Traits:
- Small
- Low-light Vision
- +2 saves vs. Illusion
- +1 to Illusion DCs
- +1 attack vs. goblinoids & kobolds
- +4 dodge AC vs. Giant
- +2 to Listen, Craft (Alchemy)
- Speak w/ Burrowing Animal 1/day
- Favored Class Bard
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Equipment and Money]

[table=Backpack]
[tr][th]Name[/th][th]Price
(gp)[/th][th]Weight
(lb)[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Backpack[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
0.5
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bedroll[/td][td]
1.25
[/td][td]
0.5
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x10 Candles[/td][td]
0.10
[/td][td]
0.0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Ink & Pen[/td][td]
8.10
[/td][td]
--
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x5 Parchment[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
--
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spellbook[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
3.0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x2 Trail Rations[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
0.5
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x3 Sunrod[/td][td]
6.00
[/td][td]
3
[/td][/tr]
[/table]
[table=Belt]
[tr][th]Name[/th][th]Price
(gp)[/th][th]Weight
(lb)[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Dagger (2)[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
1.0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Light Crossbow[/td][td]
35.00
[/td][td]
4.0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bolts(10)[/td][td]
0.10
[/td][td]
0.5
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Chalk(4)[/td][td]
0.04
[/td][td]
--
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Scroll Case[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
0.5
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spell Component Pouch[/td][td]
5.00
[/td][td]
2.0
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WaterSkin[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
1.0
[/td][/tr]
[/table]
[table=Totals]
[tr][th]Cost[/th][th]Weight[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]63.59[/td][td]
16.5
[/td][/tr]
[/table]
[table=Coins]
[tr][th]Gold Pieces[/th][td]11[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Silver Pieces[/th][td]4[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Copper Pieces[/th][td]1[/td][/tr]
[/table]
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Spellbook]
*i can't help but notice that my casting is somehow inferior to a bard's at first level :)

Spell Points/Day: 2

Spells Known:
0-all
1-color spray, comprehend languages, enlarge person, flare, identify, magic missile

Prepared:
1-color spray (DC 14), enlarge person (DC 13)
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Familiar (not yet summoned)]
BAT
Diminutive Animal
Hit Dice: as master (3 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 5 ft. (1 square), fly 40 ft. (good)
Armor Class: 17 (+4 size, +2 Dex, +1 natural), touch 16, flat-footed 15
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-17
Space/Reach: 1 ft./0 ft.
Special Qualities: Alertness, blindsense 20 ft., improved evasion, low-light vision, empathic link, share spells
Saves: Fort +2, Ref +4 (improved evasion), Will +4
Abilities: Str 1, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 6, Wis 14, Cha 4
Skills: Concentration +4, Hide +14, Knowledge (Arcana) +2, Knowledge (Dungeoneering) +2, Listen +10, Move Silently +6, Spellcraft +2
Feats: Alertness

Combat
Blindsense (Ex)
A bat notices and locates creatures within 20 feet. Opponents still have 100% concealment against a creature with blindsense.
Skills
*A bat has a +4 racial bonus on Spot and Listen checks. These bonuses are lost if its blindsense is negated.
[/spoiler]

[spoiler=note]
Typing out weights for scroll cases is not the most fun part of dnd.
[/spoiler]
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 11, 2006, 12:20:50 AM
Check out the big brain on Gaspar!
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 12, 2006, 02:34:05 AM
Woot, reading material. I will get back to you.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Túrin on June 13, 2006, 08:11:23 AM
I suggest lots of NPCs (at various levels) with spellcasting abilities (but also non-spellcasters to check for balance) for the adventure. Speaking of enemy spellcasters, how does the mana point systems affect spell-like abilities?

Also, is it really so that a bard casts spells better than a wizard at level one? That can't be right!

Turin
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 13, 2006, 11:39:45 AM
QuoteAlso, is it really so that a bard casts spells better than a wizard at level one? That can't be right!

Because Bards are KOOL!
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 13, 2006, 03:17:00 PM
What do you mean about bards casting spells better than wizards at 1st level? Bards have 1 spell known, though they do have more MP.

That may actually be a little bit of a problem; perhaps bards could go back to their previous no 1st level spells at 1st level?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 13, 2006, 03:35:09 PM
According to the article in "the Post", a wizard has 1 spell known, and 1 mp. A bard has 1 spell known and 2 mps. The wizard beats the bard pretty quick, but he's definitely behind at first level. :)
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Numinous on June 13, 2006, 04:21:13 PM
Just a note to everyone, I'll be making a character just as soon as the 3E profiler comes back online, which should hopefully be soon.

If that looks to be too far along, just tell me and I'll get to work on my sorceror...
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 13, 2006, 05:14:41 PM
Brainface, I was looking over your stats: is there a reason your attack bonuses seem to be missing the +1 attack bonus for being small? And there are some errors on your skill table; the modifiers seem right, but the math isn't.

Oh, and that happened because of the method I determined MP. I'll switch the Bard back to 1 mp, like the formula I made says (they should have 1.5 at first level, so I should have rounded down).
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 13, 2006, 07:05:18 PM
HA! take THAT, bard!

Quote from: NatIf that looks to be too far along, just tell me and I'll get to work on my sorceror...
I have no idea when Ish plans to redo that. You're probably better off using neptune's table, but that is a lot more typing. :/
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 13, 2006, 07:17:15 PM
Just use the table Crit please; does the 3eprofiler take into account variant systems?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Numinous on June 13, 2006, 07:19:26 PM
Oh yeah...  I'll just use the table then, I guess...
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 13, 2006, 07:57:11 PM
[ic=Cul le Pettour]
Strange... I feel my power ebbing away...
What is happening to me?!?[/ic]
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 13, 2006, 08:00:24 PM
CYMRO, you've got tons of MP anyway. Hahaha.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 13, 2006, 08:07:16 PM
You've never heardof GREED?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 13, 2006, 08:12:34 PM
Yes I have. He's the devil god of the dwarves in my campaign setting.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Numinous on June 19, 2006, 10:23:58 AM
[ic=Messenger]Kelainos was found dead in his room at the inn last night, perhaps another comrade would be more suitable for your endeavor?[/ic]
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 19, 2006, 01:16:19 PM
Crit, there seem to be some issues. It says you have bardic music and a longsword, but your class is a Human Sorcerer and you don't have the BAB to purchase Martial Weapon Proficiency (Longsword). IM me and we can work on your character together.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 19, 2006, 01:21:36 PM
He copied CYMRO's character sheet and hasn't gotten around to editting fully. That is why he put the last line in there about being under construction. :)
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 19, 2006, 01:27:37 PM
Oh, I didn't notice that blurb. Hah.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 20, 2006, 10:03:08 PM
So far 4 Humans and 1 Gnomette(must appease the Mods). What will number 6 be?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 20, 2006, 10:12:04 PM
i hope it's a gnomette.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 21, 2006, 03:46:27 PM
Well it looks like Kelainos changed to a halfling. I guess that's what he gets for drinking from bottles with tags saying drink me.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 21, 2006, 03:48:47 PM
Just don't eat the little cupcakes!
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 21, 2006, 05:09:52 PM
I've begun work on the campaign/adventure. I'm trying to design it with as much plot as possible in such a rapidly advancing game; I don't want to bore you all to death.

Additionally, I'm trying to work out a simplistic way of using photoshop layers and saving to jpgs to be able to put up maps and battle grids. I haven't been this excited about starting a game in a long time.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: limetom on June 21, 2006, 05:19:33 PM
I actually liked the mushrooms.   :D
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Numinous on June 23, 2006, 06:28:33 PM
Sorry guys, some things have come up, and I don't think I have the time or proper motivation to see this through.  I'll be backing out now, and best of luck on this endeavor...
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 23, 2006, 07:33:10 PM
Darn.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 24, 2006, 12:10:52 PM
So who can we conscript to roond oot the party?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 24, 2006, 12:13:51 PM
CYMRO, did you stop believing in the letter "U"? It's a strange, cup-like letter that falls between "T" and "V". Heh.

I think there was someone around the board who was asking about it. I'll try to find out who; maybe it was Luminous Crayon?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 24, 2006, 12:30:20 PM
What is this "u" yoo talk aboot?

Send the zombie gaards forth to find this person!
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on June 24, 2006, 02:06:43 PM
Quote from: XeviatI think there was someone around the board who was asking about it. I'll try to find out who; maybe it was Luminous Crayon?

How hard is it to pick-up / drop people mid-game in a play-by-post?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 24, 2006, 04:39:36 PM
It isn't all that hard. The new player either takes over the character of the player that left, or they make a new character and the DM finds a way to add them and get rid of the vacant character
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 24, 2006, 11:16:21 PM
As long as it doesn't happen in the middle of combat, it shouldn't be too hard. Especially since this story will be site based and not character driven; but I'd still rather keep the same classes.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on June 26, 2006, 03:39:21 PM
If it happens in the middle of combat, then the DM usually takes control of the vacant character. Then once combat is over, or during combat you can find a new player.

Speaking of which any word on someone taking over Critical Threat's class? Who has the sixth class?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 26, 2006, 04:46:27 PM
I'll bring it up in the Tavern.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Lmns Crn on June 26, 2006, 07:22:36 PM
Hey, I'm available if you don't mind a complete PBP newbie. I'll play whatever you need most.

If the choice is between cleric and sorceror, I'll probably go with a cleric. Any particular world this is in, or does it matter?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on June 26, 2006, 09:22:31 PM
Welcome aboard, I am a PbP newbie, too!
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on June 26, 2006, 09:26:14 PM
Nope, world doesn't really mater. Just pick two domains you like; you'll probably end up being a "middle of the line" cleric, since the cleric, druid, and paladin are probably going to be the best meleers. Up to you though, and just play what you like; it shouldn't be hard to find someone to play a Sorc.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on July 08, 2006, 06:17:25 AM
Alright, the first several encounters have been written and the general story arc has been decided upon, so I'm ready to go as soon as we get two more players.

Here's the introduction to get you thinking:

[ooc=Introduction]You have been residents of Green Vale, a sleepy village within a valley surrounding the Green River, for your whole lives. The village is located here because it is just the right distance from the capitol to make it a superb spot for traders who are taking the river inland to stop and re-supply. The only thing of any interest in the locale is a relatively peaceful tribe of kobolds who mine the hills (with which Green Vale sometimes participates in trade with), and the unexplored mountains beyond.

About a year ago, contact with the local kobolds ceased; the town council assumed it to be the work of adventurers or a gnome raid. Not much thought went into it, though, because the village could get along perfectly well without them. More recently, over the last month, persons have gone missing seemingly at random; some farmers here, a blacksmith there. It wasn't until Merik Sol (the head priest of the chapel of the sun) and Erich (the leader of a small druid grove) went missing that people began to take notice. Several townsfolk formed a party, investigating the incident before leaving to find the missing persons; that was one week ago.

This morning, one of the investigators (Steven, a reformed pick pocket who was a close friend of the clerc who had formed the investigation party) returned, frantic and bloodied. By his account, the party tracked the missing persons to a kobold mine, where the party was ambushed and captured. Steven alluded capture and ran the entire twelve mile trip home. The town council has convened, and has placed a bounty: 2,500 pieces of gold to the brave men or women who stop what ever the kobolds are up to, double if they bring the missing priests and other townsfolk home safe.[/ooc]
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on July 08, 2006, 06:18:25 AM
Wait, it looks like Luminous is in, so we only need one more player.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Lmns Crn on July 09, 2006, 04:58:21 PM
I'll get a character sheet to you soon, but add me to the roster as Claugh Forgeheart, male dwarven cleric.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Lmns Crn on July 09, 2006, 11:18:54 PM
Okay, here we go. Haven't done equipment yet, because I don't know what you have in mind regarding starting cash.

[spoiler=Claugh Forgeheart]
Claugh Forgeheart
Male dwarven cleric 1 (LN)
Domains War and Earth
[spoiler=Ability Scores and Basic Stats]Str 14, Dex 8, Con 18, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 8

HP: 12
AC: 9 (Without armor/equipment)

F/R/W: 6/-1/5
Init: 3
Speed: 20 ft[/spoiler][spoiler=Skills, Feats, Class Features, Etc.]Dwarven Racial Features
War (FW: Warhammer) and Earth domains
Turn/Destroy Undead, Air Creatures
Rebuke/Command Earth Creatures
Improved Initiative (first level feat)

Kn (Religion) +5 (max ranks)
Concentration +8 (max ranks)
Search +3 (max ranks, cross-class)[/spoiler][spoiler=Spells and Whatnot]MP: 2
Always prepared: Cure Light Wounds
Domain Prepared: Magic Stone
Daily Prepared: Shield of Faith[/spoiler][spoiler=Equipment: 125g Worth]Warhammer      12g
Scale Mail      50g
Holy Symbol, Silver   25g
   
Backpack      2g
Bedroll         0.1g
Flint and Steel      1g

Scroll Case      1g
Ink, black      8g
Inkpen         0.1g
Paper, ten sheets   4g

Waterskin      1g
Rations, 10 days   5g
Bottle of stout dwarven wine   2g
Silk rope, 50 feet   10g
Belt Pouch      1g
Cash:    2g8s

Playing PbP DnD: Priceless[/spoiler][spoiler=Description]Claugh is a serene if irritable dwarf with a will of iron and a body of stone. His determination is of greater renown than any reputation of pleasantry. His face and head are shaved clean, though black stubble covers his brick of a jaw. He carries a large hammer, whose more obscure symbolism relates to the necessary suffering described in his system of belief, and whose more accessable symbolism relates to shattered bones and contusions.

As a disciple of the Anvil, Claugh is driven to seek self-perfection through toil and pain. Metal on the anvil suffers much beneath the strikes of the hammer and the heat of the forge, but with every blow, it comes closer to perfection. The Anvil is the whole of creation; the hammer of travail can strike at any time. The blows of suffering strengthen all creatures that refuse to break.[/spoiler]

[/spoiler]
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Poseptune on July 09, 2006, 11:29:37 PM
Luminous the starting gold is the average for your class
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on July 10, 2006, 04:06:29 AM
I love the names.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Lmns Crn on July 10, 2006, 08:37:12 AM
Updated with equipment and a better description. I think I'm set to go, but feel free to check my work.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: CYMRO on July 10, 2006, 09:25:24 AM
Xeviat, did you ever change the bard's MP?
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on July 10, 2006, 05:29:28 PM
I haven't changed it on the pages; I'll do that right now.

I do have an idea for a modification on this MP system to possibly correct any issus of too few MP at low levels, but too much propencity to nova at high levels:

First, cut all caster's MP in half (round up). Then, characters are fatigued when their MP is reduced to half of their new total (possibly half their base MP, bonus MP not counted); fatigue is changed to -2 to all scores and can't charge or run (so it penalizes casters). When MP is reduced to 1/4th, you're exhausted (-6 to all scores, limited to a single standard or move; again, my modification).

Then, characters would have a much faster MP regeneration rate; possibly 1 point per hour per level of rest, and maybe increased by feats or something. This way, a caster is encouraged to remain above 1/4th the normal total, and since a caster is suposed to deal with 4 encounters a day, it adds up.

I'm just really worried about wizards having 2 mp, counting their bonus mp. Granted, this is what they have in the core game, but I hate playing 1st level wizards anyway.
Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: brainface on July 10, 2006, 06:09:38 PM
QuoteI do have an idea for a modification on this MP system to possibly correct any issus of too few MP at low levels, but too much propencity to nova at high levels:
got[/i] to be simpler, and it's about what the core casting classes do anyway. (The sorcerer, by formula, shouldn't learn 1st level spells till 2nd level, the bard's spellcasting is accelerated in early levels, etc.)

Title: (OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!
Post by: Xeviat on July 10, 2006, 11:06:42 PM
Brainy, the reason for my earlier suggestion is that it would effectively limit a caster to 1/4th their total output in a single combat; it would be a flavorful and mechanically simple way of restricting their per combat output without changing too much.