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Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 27, 2009, 08:46:54 PM
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Post by: SilvercatMoonpaw on July 27, 2009, 09:21:56 PM
Right now what you've given us is a bunch of names and their locations.  Doesn't tell us anything about what's happening in the setting and why.

Not to malign the obvious amount of work you've put into the thing, I just have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking for.

UPDATE: Okay, I'm intrigued by the Burning River, the Lake of Fire, and Zandar.  So you've chosen to place an area of elemental fire on the material plane?  I'd really like to know why, it's a cool idea.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 27, 2009, 09:43:02 PM
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Post by: Mason on July 27, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
Whew. Thats a world. Intrigued to see all the details.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 27, 2009, 11:01:04 PM
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Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 27, 2009, 11:12:59 PM
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Post by: AslanC on July 28, 2009, 01:25:46 AM
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Post by: Superfluous Crow on July 28, 2009, 07:36:31 AM
Hey, and welcome to the boards!
First off: wow. A lot of detail went into this already, and it seems like you have a pretty good idea in your head of how all these various states interact. Kudos for that.
The map would benefit from a legend of some kind. It's hard to be sure exactly what you're looking at. While i wouldn't use a hex-style myself it is a good choice for a map as big as yours.
The setting benefits greatly from your matter-of-factly style. Some detail is invariably lost of course, but it is easy to read and engaging, qualities a setting this big will come to need.
Things I would like would be: a brief non-historical intro to the setting, a small list of the 3-6 major nations or governing organizations, and a more structured list of gods. (Divided by pantheon preferably)
Also, what's your take on races and magic? Are you just going to use what is found in common DnD? Or are you planning on going a bit beyond that?
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 28, 2009, 12:42:21 PM
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Post by: Superfluous Crow on July 28, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
Just meant an introduction briefly describing the "plot" and the themes and/or tone of the setting :)
Perhaps a bit on what you count as the major elements of your setting. Just so you have an idea of what you are getting into when you start reading.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 28, 2009, 03:05:24 PM
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Post by: Superfluous Crow on July 28, 2009, 03:25:02 PM
I like the fact that all the slumbering things are awakened. Although I'm not sure how the PCs can do much at level 10.
Are you going to develop the setting as a stand alone for any setting or specifically for this game?
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 28, 2009, 03:28:38 PM
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Post by: Superfluous Crow on July 28, 2009, 03:32:08 PM
Well, if you enjoy doing settings you should of course make it into a full-fledged setting :)
We'd love to see it up and about here on the site.
Probably set in the period before the Horn is blown.
Oh, and be careful with those magic artifacts. One of the big campaigns i played in went completely over-the-top when we got access to far too many custom-made artifacts.
Although hunting down artifacts to challenge the gods should be fun.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 28, 2009, 03:56:51 PM
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Post by: Superfluous Crow on July 28, 2009, 04:06:51 PM
Clever name :p
And i noticed some of the references. Duke Leto and Aslan springs to mind. Was going to question you about them at one point actually.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on July 28, 2009, 04:13:40 PM
What can I say?  I love in-references ;)

There are many many many in there, feel free to question about any of them, or the world in general ... I like talking about this place ;)
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on August 04, 2009, 03:05:37 AM
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Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: LD on August 04, 2009, 11:50:02 AM
While the brief introduction is nice, it may also be useful to compile a list of the "themes" and "inspirations" of the setting, to help others get an idea for how they should run a game in your world.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on August 04, 2009, 12:34:49 PM
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Post by: LD on August 04, 2009, 12:54:23 PM
That is fair enough, but from me at least the comments will probably be sparse until I really get the feeling that I want to examine the setting.

For example, I like reading Steerpike's newest updates to Cadaverous Earth, but it took reading and understanding his themes to overcome my initial repulsion to the idea of his world.

And Crow's Broken Verge was initially overlooked... but it grew on me as I saw the pieces start fitting together.

The key to getting more reviews is to make the setting (or the updates to it) interesting and intriguing for people to read. why should they care about your history instead of doing something else? What new can you give to them? How artfully can you present your ideas?

Good Luck.
~LD.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on August 04, 2009, 01:35:13 PM
I have removed my material and post from this form.

There is no anger inside me, but I do not feel this is a place for me.

I will continue my efforts in other places where I have and simply move on.

I do sincerely wish you all the best and bear no malice towards this place.

It just simply isn't for me.

Thank you for the constructive and positive conversation Cataclysmic Crow.  It was appreciated.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: LD on August 04, 2009, 01:43:18 PM
Perhaps you misunderstand a bit.
I did not say that your setting was necessarily un-interesting, I just said that what I personally (and perhaps others) look for in a setting is an easy list of struggles.

I liked how in your introduction you mentioned evils lurking in the background and the Burning Plague was a nice concept.

However, what I personally read is not the history of duchies or the descriptions of Gods.

I apologize now though, I did not see your response to CC about the themes- you already discussed that. I am going to read it now-- maybe if you could move it up to an earlier post that would be a good idea?

The most eye-catching and introduction posts should be at the beginning of the thread instead of buried further down- or else people stop reading before they get there.

But on the second hand, if you look at others' settings, generally they only receive in-depth comments from two or three people. The creation of settings is generally a solitary endeavor, done for one's own enjoyment and edification.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: LD on August 04, 2009, 01:45:05 PM
I see you removed the material while I was writing?

I am sorry that my post offended you so much.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on August 04, 2009, 01:46:57 PM
No need to apologize at all Light Dragon.

You last line hits the nail on the head.  I don't feel that creation is solitary, therefore I will only become frustrated or disinterested in this process here.

I understand or grok the Zen of this place now, and it isn't for me.

I prefer conversation, feedback, and even jokes.

Nothing can be made in a vacuum and for me that is just the law of anything I do.

Cheers and good luck with your endeavours.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: AslanC on August 04, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
Your post did not offend me Light Dragon, it simply opened my eyes, nothing more.

Please do not take it personally, as it is not intended as such.
Title: New Dawn of the West: A Campaign
Post by: LD on August 04, 2009, 02:09:55 PM
...Yes, it sometimes is a little slower here at the CBG than some of us would like. People read what they can when they can. With a bigger community, more feedback may be had. Good luck at the Cartographer's Guild. Perhaps you may want to try your luck here: http://giantitp.com or at the Wizards of the Coast Forums.