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Title: Some New Feats
Post by: limetom on July 16, 2006, 09:27:06 PM
Rapid Spell Completion [General]
You can cast spells from scrolls quicker than normal.
Prerequisites: Caster level 9th, Quicken Spell.
Benefits: As long as your caster level is four higher than that of a scroll, you can activate a scroll as a swift action
Normal: Activating a scroll is a standard action.
Special: The amount of time it takes to deciper a scroll remains the same.  Using this feat counts as casting a quickened spell, (i.e. you cannot cast a quickened spell and use this feat in the same round.)

Rapid Spell Trigger [General]
You can cast spells from from wands and staves quicker than normal.
Prerequisites: Caster level 9th, Quicken Spell.
Benefits: As long as your caster level is four levels higher than that of a staff or a wand, you can activate a wand or a staff as a swift action, once per round.  The number of charges expended remains the same.
Normal: Activating a wand or a staff is a standard action.
Special: Using this feat counts as casting a quickened spell, (i.e. you cannot cast a quickened spell and use this feat in the same round.)
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: Poseptune on July 16, 2006, 09:31:29 PM
Would these truely be metamagic? Being able to read a scroll a little faster isn't really adding anything to the spell. They definitely favor the spellcaster that has to prepare their spells ahead of time.
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: brainface on July 16, 2006, 09:37:26 PM
That seems kinda abusable to me -- a caster could have a set of scrolls that weren't too dependant on caster level or dc -- globe of invulnerability, whatever, etc., and go off 3e haste style.
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: limetom on July 16, 2006, 09:39:10 PM
As it stands right now, I guess you could get away with 3 spells (one from the item, one quickened, one normal).  I'll change the wording.
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: Xathan on July 16, 2006, 09:53:06 PM
Once the wording change takes place, they seem useful and balanced to me. Nice stuff. :)
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: limetom on July 16, 2006, 09:57:03 PM
They're all fixed.

You could, technically, have gotten off 3 spells with the old wording.  Now only 2.

I also changed them from [Metamagic] feats to [General] feats, so they are in line with the Master Staff and Master Wand feats.
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: Poseptune on July 16, 2006, 10:20:52 PM
They still favor a prepared spellcaster. The only reason a sorcerer would take the quicken feat would be to get these feats. I don't know it that is what you were going for, but they are balanced now that the wording has been changed.
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: limetom on July 16, 2006, 11:39:54 PM
Quote from: PoseidonThey still favor a prepared spellcaster. The only reason a sorcerer would take the quicken feat would be to get these feats. I don't know it that is what you were going for, but they are balanced now that the wording has been changed.
trying[/i] to do that, its just how it happens.

Someone else pointed another mistake out, so all of the caster level prerequistes have been raised by four (a 5th level Wizard can't cast a quickened magic missle so they now can't through the feats as well).
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: limetom on July 17, 2006, 01:34:47 AM
Ok so, I dropped Improved Rapid Spell Completion after someone else reminded me of the Concentration skill (can't you tell I don't play spellcasters often?)

I also folded the two Rapid Spell Trigger feats into one another, and lowered the Caster Level prerequisite.  It was too high...
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: Xathan on July 17, 2006, 01:38:40 AM
They look better balanced to me, so I give these a good. I'm a bit leery on the staves being the same feat as wands, since the spells you can gain from staves are so much more powerful, but the "As long as your caster level is four levels higher than that of a staff or a wand" clause makes abuse more difficult. :)
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: limetom on July 17, 2006, 01:45:37 AM
By the time you qualify for this feat, wands are quickly becoming useless compared to staves, so simply folding them into one helps conserve a wizard's precious feat slots.  (They're general feats, so they're not on the wizard's bonus list.)
Title: Some New Feats
Post by: Xathan on July 17, 2006, 01:48:57 AM
Quote from: limetomBy the time you qualify for this feat, wands are quickly becoming useless compared to staves, so simply folding them into one helps conserve a wizard's precious feat slots.  (They're general feats, so they're not on the wizard's bonus list.)


The last two points you made, about wizard's feats being precious and them not being bonus feats, are clichers for me. I call these feats balanced. :)