[blockquote Atsisodhi]...crossbows' bolts would just stick in plate, but longbows' arrows would go through.[/blockquote]
I was under the impression that the opposite was true.
Recurves, longbows and other bows that required the
archer to have sufficient strength to pull the string
back. This naturally limits the amount of poundage you
could place upon the arrow. In contrast, a winch-powered
crossbow allows the archer to provide a greater amount of
force, and as such provide a greater force upon the projectile.
[blockquote Atsisodhi]...the Arms and Armour Journal has done some tests that disagree. According to Sword Forum International forums, their tests were done with harder arrowheads than used when longbows were used, and a sheet of steel instead of a breastplate (whose curvature and ribbedness would perhaps deflect an arrow).[/blockquote]
Considering the case-hardening techniques utilised for later-period
armouring techniques, any metal softer than a high-carbon steel alloy
is likely to be softer and more easily pierced. This effect is further
exacerbated when combined with arrow heads that have been hardened
further than we have seen any evidence for.
As such, if this test still fails to pierce steel plates, can we not
further extrapolate this to suggest that the arrow heads in question
could not pierce a breastplate, considering that was often harder,
and were also shaped in a way that also increased deflection?
Early guns on the other hand were much better. They could project
lead shots with much more force (many, many times as much) and rather
than trying to pierce it with a sharp point, the shot only acted as
a medium for transfering the force to a small area. I'm told that
realistically a lead shot wayed a similar amount too.
This extra force was particularly useful against opponents wearing
plate, in that its innate rigidity, thinness and high-carbon case-
hardened composition made it more susceptible to having large holes
punched through it. Hence later developments in armouring used
softer, thicker steel that was designed to absorb and disperse the
force of the shot.
I was under the impression that the opposite was true.
Recurves, longbows and other bows that required the
archer to have sufficient strength to pull the string
back. This naturally limits the amount of poundage you
could place upon the arrow. In contrast, a winch-powered
crossbow allows the archer to provide a greater amount of
force, and as such provide a greater force upon the projectile.
[blockquote Atsisodhi]...the Arms and Armour Journal has done some tests that disagree. According to Sword Forum International forums, their tests were done with harder arrowheads than used when longbows were used, and a sheet of steel instead of a breastplate (whose curvature and ribbedness would perhaps deflect an arrow).[/blockquote]
Considering the case-hardening techniques utilised for later-period
armouring techniques, any metal softer than a high-carbon steel alloy
is likely to be softer and more easily pierced. This effect is further
exacerbated when combined with arrow heads that have been hardened
further than we have seen any evidence for.
As such, if this test still fails to pierce steel plates, can we not
further extrapolate this to suggest that the arrow heads in question
could not pierce a breastplate, considering that was often harder,
and were also shaped in a way that also increased deflection?
Early guns on the other hand were much better. They could project
lead shots with much more force (many, many times as much) and rather
than trying to pierce it with a sharp point, the shot only acted as
a medium for transfering the force to a small area. I'm told that
realistically a lead shot wayed a similar amount too.
This extra force was particularly useful against opponents wearing
plate, in that its innate rigidity, thinness and high-carbon case-
hardened composition made it more susceptible to having large holes
punched through it. Hence later developments in armouring used
softer, thicker steel that was designed to absorb and disperse the
force of the shot.