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August 14, 2007, 03:51:51 PM
It does. thanks.
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#16
August 14, 2007, 04:26:35 PM
It also gives the interesting visual of a moon that is always on or near the horizon, I believe.
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#17
August 14, 2007, 05:43:03 PM
Well now, that's just kinda cool. What would an ever-present moon do to infected lycanthropes?
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August 14, 2007, 11:23:32 PM
My guess is that it would then be a factor of how close the moon happens to be to you. I also suspect that all lycanthropes that don't like their condition would then immediately head hubward to be as far from the moon as possible it all times.
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August 14, 2007, 11:55:44 PM
well, wouldnt they be a bit like barghests if there is an ever-present moon?
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#20
August 15, 2007, 04:00:35 AM
I have to throw my hat in with Luminous Crayon here.

Let's say I, the DM, want to have my players discover a long-lost dungeon that is suddenly revealed by an earthquake.  I haven't mapped out the geological fault lines and continental rift zones of my world; on a flat world (which is currently the world I'm DMing in) continental drift might simply not work.  I don't lose sleep over it, and neither do my players (hopefully), because it falls into the realm of suspension of disbelief.

As the DM of a flat world, what I'm concerned with are things that impact the players directly.  What's on the other side?  What happens if you fall off the edge?  Are there tunnels from one side to another?  Unless your characters are interested in the tides, or the precise distance at which objects can be seen under totally clear conditions miles away, I would advise not to bother with it.  Better to spend that thought on things of more pressing concern to characters. :)
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#21
August 15, 2007, 05:34:15 AM
Is the world "really" a rock floating in space, with an atmosphere clinging to its surface, or is it "really" a flat piece of land with edges, and maybe a dome overhead that holds the stars ...

Since you talk of an other side, I'm assuming it's a rock with a flat side. If you want to be realistic, then wouldn't the edges of the flat plane seem more like slopes, since gravity will want to pull towards the center of weight of the flat-sided rock. Since you probably don't want that, I wouldn't worry about it.

Most old cultures didn't have any concept of physics beyond what was applicable to them. I'm more impressed by a world that is entertaining, fun, and thought provoking rather than one that obeys all reasonable laws of physics.

The beauty of having a flat world means your players will be less likely to question things that wouldn't seem out of place amongst ancient myth. You should be able to get away with a lot more, because they will already know that the laws of nature as they know it don't apply perfectly.

I think the underside should be a horrendously mountainous wasteland, with countless caverns. If you were to dig through, there should be a point of "upside down, where gravity flips; if you were to go to the edge, you'd fall momentarily before finding yourself righted. I think the world should be rimmed by mountains, making it more difficult to find the edge; having a world sea that spills over the edge could be cool, though, and the rain would be the heavens giving water back to the world.
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#22
August 15, 2007, 11:16:23 AM
I think i'll have the gravity directed downwards, even if you end up on the underside. This could also lead to some strange lifeforms or civilizations who have adapted to live over a yawning abyss. Maybe a couple of standard hanging bridge villages, just with trees replaced by stalagtites. I considered having all of the world encompassed by mountains at one time, but then again, i quite like the idea of the water spilling over the edge too. But i think i'll just combine them so there are the mountains, and then there are a couple of water-filled mountain passes leading over the rim. But i'll probably make the mountains quite steep and inhospitable so they are hard too climb and live on; i don't want anyone to start building villages on them.
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#23
August 16, 2007, 03:53:35 AM
Maybe there is no underside. Endless series of caverns as long as you can and will burrow, with random Cthulhuan deities and balors along the way, waiting to be unearthed and released.

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August 16, 2007, 04:07:16 AM
Quote from: Eldritch ArcanumI think i'll have the gravity directed downwards, even if you end up on the underside. This could also lead to some strange lifeforms or civilizations who have adapted to live over a yawning abyss. Maybe a couple of standard hanging bridge villages, just with trees replaced by stalagtites.

I really like this idea.  You could fall forever... or just maybe, you could find yourself hurtling through space until you were dumped on another plane.
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March 16, 2008, 06:37:00 AM
Quote from: Holy Carp!Let's say I, the DM, want to have my players discover a long-lost dungeon that is suddenly revealed by an earthquake.  I haven't mapped out the geological fault lines and continental rift zones of my world; on a flat world (which is currently the world I'm DMing in) continental drift might simply not work.  I don't lose sleep over it, and neither do my players (hopefully), because it falls into the realm of suspension of disbelief.
Living in Hawaii, which is smack dab in the middle of the Pacific plate on our own Earth, I have to mention that we have both volcanoes and earthquakes here.  In fact, one woke me up last year; it made it all the way from the Big Island to Oahu where I live.  So it would be entirely possible to have an earthquake (or a volcano) of significant magnitude even about as far away from the edge of a continental plate as you can get.

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March 17, 2008, 02:33:26 PM
Quote from: limetom
Quote from: Holy Carp!Let's say I, the DM, want to have my players discover a long-lost dungeon that is suddenly revealed by an earthquake.  I haven't mapped out the geological fault lines and continental rift zones of my world; on a flat world (which is currently the world I'm DMing in) continental drift might simply not work.  I don't lose sleep over it, and neither do my players (hopefully), because it falls into the realm of suspension of disbelief.
Oh, heck, possible without the underlying suspension that a sphere physically gives, the shockwaves may actually travel much further.  I just wonder what happens to these shckwaves when they hit the outside edge...
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#27
March 19, 2008, 02:42:20 PM
That could be an interesting endgame problem, the edges of the world cracking off because of seismic activity. You'd have to go to the other side to explore what's causing it an how it can be stopped.
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