[Areana]Pair Team Three-Way!

[beejazz]

So the spell you cast was silence? Not that it matters too terribly much to me.

Care to join me out here, LC?

And for the record, J17. I think.

[Poseptune]

[ooc] He didn't cast it on anybody, but on the arena, if he did Willum would have gotten a will save. If he was allowed to attack directly he would have use earthen grasp.

@Beejazz: Yes, silence.[/ooc]

[Darkxarth]

[ooc]Yeah, I'm pretty sure the only things you can cast pre-combat are personal buffs or summoning-type things.  I don't think spells that affect others are allowed during pre-combat.[/ooc]

[beejazz]

[ooc]And silence... doesn't it have to be cast on something? Like a rock or somesuch?[/ooc]

[Poseptune]

[ooc]Yeah, I'm pretty sure the only things you can cast pre-combat are personal buffs or summoning-type things.  I don't think spells that affect others are allowed during pre-combat.[/ooc]

[ooc]I had already PMed Xathan and gotten an ok when I noticed that we were taking more than pre-combat round. He was worried about spells that were being cast in the same round and I told him that it could take effect at the end of the round. He said that was fine.

From SRD: Excerpt from Silence text:  The spell can be cast on a point in space, but the effect is stationary unless cast on a mobile object.
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[Darkxarth]

[ooc]Okay, so do I notice that it's gotten quiet all of the sudden?  If so, I don't want to waste that spell slot. If not, I guess that's the way it goes.[/ooc]

[Poseptune]

[ooc]Okay, so do I notice that it's gotten quiet all of the sudden?  If so, I don't want to waste that spell slot. If not, I guess that's the way it goes.[/ooc]

[ooc] I would suppose so, as you can no longer hear the crowd.[/ooc]

[Captain Obvious]

[ooc] Alright, but being able to cast stuff on people pre-battle is a pretty major change. If this had been made allowed, i would have appreciated it if everyon, not just you, got told about it.

What spells and effects could be used?
- Could i charm you?
- Bestow curse you?
- Could i fireball you? if not, could i delayed fireball you (i.e. use my five prep turns to drop 5 DBF's all set to co off on turn one)
- I would assume all of these are not allowed, but i would have assumed anything that can affect the others was unnalowed pre-battle.

What is the Ruling on this Xathan? [/ooc]

[Darkxarth]

[ooc]I think we should move this conversation to the official Arena thread itself.[/ooc]

[Captain Obvious]

[ooc] Xanthan has created a set of rules governing pre-battle actions, and theye are posted in the Areana thread. Based on those, these are my pre-combat actions. [/ooc]
[ic= Willum ]
Willum Shakeda Spear walks into the arena from the north entrance with his dire bat mount and sizes up his partner.
"I will deal with spellcasters," he says brusquely, "You try to blow up or charm or whatever it is you do to the warriors. If you need aid, yell, but make sure you need it before you do."
He then climbs onto his mount, where he proceeds to pull out a clear gem and crush it with his bare hands. A cool wind comes rushing out and forms a small tornado over Willum's shoulder while he swigs a potion. The with his entourage of whirlwinds, he lifts into the air. [/ic]


[ooc]Use Air Elemental gem. (Large Air Elemental) [11-3 rounds)]
Cast Summon Nature's Ally III ( [dice]1d3[/dice] small air elementals) [6-2 rounds]
Cast Summon Nature's Ally III ( [dice]1d3[/dice] small air elementals) [6-1 rounds]
Drink potion of haste. [5 rounds] and mount bat.

mine and the large elementals rolls are copy/pasted from before.
initiative (1d20+3) = (11,3) = 14 @L03
large elemental initiative (1d20+11) = (8,11) = 19 @K03
1st small elemental initiative  [dice]1d20+7[/dice]
2nd small elemental initiative  [dice]1d20+7[/dice]
3rd small elemental initiative  [dice]1d20+7[/dice]
4th small elemental initiative  [dice]1d20+7[/dice]
5th small elemental initiative  [dice]1d20+7[/dice]
6th small elemental initiative  [dice]1d20+7[/dice]
(they are all floating around, above and below me. I don't know how many i get yet, but the initiave rolls are used in their given order. i.e. if i get 3, i use 1st 2nd and 3rd.)
[edit] If and when i get silenced, i walk out of the radius for the rounds when i need to cast, then walk back in on the last round. [/ooc]

[Poseptune]

[ooc][edit] If and when i get silenced, i walk out of the radius for the rounds when i need to cast, then walk back in on the last round. [/ooc]

[ooc] Fair warning. If you want to change your actions based on the newly aquired rules then, I will be doing the same.

The changes would be:
Before entering: 2 hours before combat initiate fell flight, and seen the unseen.

Init=23 (copied from previous post Initiative= (1d20+3) = (20,3) =  23)

1st Pre-round: cast silence from wand in northern gate area
2nd Pre-round: cast silence from wand in southern gate area
3rd Pre-round: Drink potion of mage armor
4th Pre-Round: Crush elemental Gem (earth) init  [dice]1d20-1[/dice]
5th Pre-Round: Waiting on answer to question below.

With my init, you would be silenced on the first pre-combat round. To walk outside the area you would have to know where I cast it, which would be a couple of move actions, that would stagger your full-round casting. Which raises another question. How far from our starting positions can we move during pre-combat?

You can't give your minions orders while in the silenced area, but I might be mistaken. Just wanted to give you a heads up. I never thought casting silence would have caused so much trouble. It isn't all that powerful of a spell.

Also it would be nice if you posted your pre-entering the arena actions. Your bull's Anger and such.

Can we enter the arena invisible?
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[Darkxarth]

[ooc]Okay, also basing my actions on the new rules, here's my stuff.
2 hours: Nothing
10 minutes: During the last thirty seconds of preparation time, I cast Arcane Sight (8 min duration), Expeditious Retreat (8 min duration), Shield (8 min duration), apply Oil of Magic Weapon to my Quarterstaff, and pull out a small token.

EDIT: Keeping my Initiative=13 from my first post.[/ooc]
[ic=Diazzo HP=30 AC=21]"Right," Diazzo begins to respond to his partner, when suddenly a hush falls over him.  He can see the crowd cheering, but can hear nothing.  He looks at all his opponents in the Arena, and sees one of them putting away a short rod, a wand.  "Hmm," he thinks, "so that's the way he wants to play, is it?  Right."[/ic]
[ooc]I'm waiting for information on how far (if at all) we can move before combat.  If we can, I'd like to move to H/04, talking to myself all the way there to see if I've exited the land of silence.  If so, I have another move or two I'd like to perform.[/ooc]

[Poseptune]

[ic=Diazzo HP=30 AC=21]"Right," Diazzo begins to respond to his partner, when suddenly a hush falls over him.  He can see the crowd cheering, but can hear nothing.  He looks at all his opponents in the Arena, and sees one of them putting away a short rod, a wand.  "Hmm," he thinks, "so that's the way he wants to play, is it?  Right."[/ic]

[ooc] Drawing a line on the map I don't think we can see each other (K3 and over can see C10). So I'm not all that sure he would know it was me, but knowing what I can see should give you an indication of what spaces I couldn't cast the spell.

The bigger question is are we continuing with this fight? ~ has suggested that we scrap it for now and I would have to agree, since we can't get past the pre-combat events.
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[Darkxarth]

[ooc]Oh, I see.  You're right, I wouldn't be able to see you.

I guess we might want to ditch it until we've got the rules worked out some more...[/ooc]