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The Kap'n's Projects: Seeking Help

Started by Xeviat, June 28, 2008, 03:05:50 PM

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Ra-Tiel


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You did that Ra? Cool! Where do you feel the holes hurt? The Eladrin player in my group doesn't like that there isn't a feat for his teleport power in Heroic level, but we can't figure out what would work for that level.

As for when believability is stretched too far ... The current ranger has a level 9 DAily, Spray of Arrows, that's a close blast 3 which targets each enemy in the blast. That's 9 enemies at most. I think that can be the mark for the extent for "believability" within the heroic tier. Level 25 has the "upgraded" version, close blast 5.

As for the rogue paths I'm looking to add, I forsee plenty of paths being added for all the classes. There are already going to be new paths in the Martial Power book. In the case of the Rogue, I don't think very many powers need to be added. I'm not going to add the Ranger powers wholesale to the Rogue.
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Quote from: Kapn XeviatYou did that Ra? Cool! Where do you feel the holes hurt? The Eladrin player in my group doesn't like that there isn't a feat for his teleport power in Heroic level, but we can't figure out what would work for that level.
Well, when looking at the tables it's quite obvious where the holes are:
- only 1 half-elf specific feat ever
- only 1 racial feat per race at paragon tier
- no racial feats at epic tier
- most class powers at paragon tier are for clerics and paladins
- at paragon tier only warlock and wizard class feats
- only wizard class feats at epic tier
- no "+ damage" energy feat for force and poison damage
- not all energy types get feats for secondary effects at paragon tier
- only fire and radiant energy types get feats at epic tier

Quote from: Kapn XeviatAs for when believability is stretched too far ... The current ranger has a level 9 DAily, Spray of Arrows, that's a close blast 3 which targets each enemy in the blast. That's 9 enemies at most. I think that can be the mark for the extent for "believability" within the heroic tier. Level 25 has the "upgraded" version, close blast 5.
I see. But I just had an idea. What if burst and blast are just the wrong shapes for the martial controller's abilities? What about line or wall shaped effects? Lins are always in a straight line (left to right, top to bottom, or diagonally) and could be used for "piercing" shot effects (think "Quake" + "Railgun"), while walls could represent some sort of "strafing" fire (similar to d20 Modern's automatic fire rules).

Quote from: Kapn XeviatAs for the rogue paths I'm looking to add, I forsee plenty of paths being added for all the classes. There are already going to be new paths in the Martial Power book. In the case of the Rogue, I don't think very many powers need to be added. I'm not going to add the Ranger powers wholesale to the Rogue.
Completely forgot Martial Power and new builds. Sigh, I think I'm getting old. :( :P

Ra-Tiel

Le bump! :D

Finally found the thread about point-buying powers: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1052152

Hope it helps. :)

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1) I have a small suspicion that, in order to "keep the math balanced" in 4E, the designers have a system for determining the power of powers. I think certain effects (status conditions, attacking multiple creatures ...) have damage dice equivalents. For instance, the fighter level 29 dailys have No Mercy (one target, 7[W]+Str damage) and Storm of Destruction (two targets, 5[W]+Str damage); thus, multiple targets might be worth 2 dice. I'm not sure exactly what will come of this, but it might help me to create a system for creating new powers.

Check out page 42 in the 4e DMG - it has the normal and limited damage expressions broken down per level. It's a great place to start, and falls right in line with foe and class damage levels.

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Quote from: Ra-TielLe bump! :D

Finally found the thread about point-buying powers: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1052152

Hope it helps. :)
I found that thread, too, but I didn't think that's what you had been talking about.  He hasn't done anything.