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CYMRO

#15
June 05, 2006, 01:43:10 PM
QuoteThat character can activate the wand as a standard action by pulling the trigger of the ray gun, even if he would not normally be able to activate that wand (as though he had made a successful Use Magic Device check to activate the wand).

QuoteGood suggestion. I'm already getting ready some items for bursts, spreads, and touch spells, but I hadn't though of cones yet.


Are you not effectively castrating the Rogue class by universalizing one of that class' best skills (UMD)?

Epic Meepo

#16
June 05, 2006, 02:16:19 PM
Quote from: CYMROAre you not effectively castrating the Rogue class by universalizing one of that class' best skills (UMD)?

Damn straight.  *snip, snip* :)

Then again, if Use Magic Device is the deciding factor as to whether or not a given rogue has any balls, then you need to take that rogue and slap him silly, because he's doing something wrong.
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Xeviat

#17
June 05, 2006, 03:24:23 PM
I like it, and the price is decent enough. I'd kick it up to 20,000, though, and expand the restriction from rays to rays, targetted bursts (not ones centered on the user), cones, and lines. That way you could fire off fireball beads and all that.

When you compare this to what a magic bow (let's say +5 with ghost touch) with a host of good magic arrows (+1 with flaming, frost, shock, and anything else you want), you'll get something similar to this device. I don't think it's entirely out of the question at all.
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June 05, 2006, 03:54:26 PM
Quote from: Epic Meepo
Quote from: CYMROAre you not effectively castrating the Rogue class by universalizing one of that class' best skills (UMD)?

Damn straight.  *snip, snip* :)

Then again, if Use Magic Device is the deciding factor as to whether or not a given rogue has any balls, then you need to take that rogue and slap him silly, because he's doing something wrong.

It may not be the deciding factor, but it is a defining factor of the class...

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June 05, 2006, 04:06:10 PM
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Quote from: Xeviat TranionI like it, and the price is decent enough. I'd kick it up to 20,000, though, and expand the restriction from rays to rays, targetted bursts (not ones centered on the user), cones, and lines. That way you could fire off fireball beads and all that.

When you compare this to what a magic bow (let's say +5 with ghost touch) with a host of good magic arrows (+1 with flaming, frost, shock, and anything else you want), you'll get something similar to this device. I don't think it's entirely out of the question at all.
+5 ghost touch bow[/i] with any one item.  A +5 ghost touch bow is worth 72,000 gp, not counting the cost of the assorted ammunition that makes it so versatile, and I'm trying to err on the side of affordable.  That way, I can justify the item being fairly common amongst mid- to high-level NPCs in whatever futuristic fantasy world it calls home.

Of course, I'm not done yet, so I may yet change my mind and adopt these or other suggestions.

Which reminds me; thanks to everyone for the suggestions, and keep them coming!

P.S.  I've updated the original post to tweak my wand-powered gun and to add a wand-powered gauntlet, the first of several new wand-powered items I have in mind.
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Raelifin

#20
June 05, 2006, 04:10:45 PM
You don't make unarmed attacks with a gauntlet, you attack with the gauntlet itself.

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#21
June 05, 2006, 04:29:50 PM
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Actually, an attack with a gauntlet counts as an unarmed attack:

Quote from: SRDGauntlet: This metal glove lets you deal lethal damage rather than nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack.
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#22
June 05, 2006, 06:33:51 PM
The Dweomer Vambrace sounds like the perfect way to handle this. I can already envision a fighter wearing his vambrace, with a gauntlet, and a gun at his hip, with a whole quiver of wands to choose from.

Lets him have options in combat other than his trusty sword, and makes magic more accessable for him too. I just may have to gank this idea. I'll probably stick to the Arcane Arbelast flavor and keep the arcane limitation, but that's more of a personal flavor preferance than any indication of disapproval of your creation. Well done!

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#23
June 05, 2006, 06:37:15 PM
I too advocate anything that makes magic items more accessable. I dislike the fact that the fighter is almost nothing without their magic items, or that casters are allowed to function with relatively little items.

Also, the image of the quiver of wands is just cool. If you can have a magic arrow that explodes on contact in a ball of fiery ... flames ... why not have a wand that fires off those balls for you, with the appropriate "launcher".
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#24
June 05, 2006, 07:14:16 PM
Quote from: Xeviat TranionI too advocate anything that makes magic items more accessable. I dislike the fact that the fighter is almost nothing without their magic items, or that casters are allowed to function with relatively little items.

So, you want to decrease a fighter's dependency on magic items....


with a magic item...
 :rolleyes:
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June 05, 2006, 07:45:56 PM
Quote from: nastynateI just may have to gank this idea. I'll probably stick to the Arcane Arbelast flavor and keep the arcane limitation, but that's more of a personal flavor preferance than any indication of disapproval of your creation. Well done!

If you gank it, they will come...

Wait, no.  That just sounds nasty.  What I mean to say is: if people are willing to gank it, it must be good.  So I must be doing something right: first, astrological alignment is ganked, and now this.  (Incidentally, when I finish the suite of items, I'm thinking of calling them "dweomer tech", as in: technology powered by charges stored in magic items.  Feel free to call it such when you gank it, should you so choose.)

Quote from: Elven DoritosSo, you want to decrease a fighter's dependency on magic items....


with a magic item...
 :rolleyes:

Be fair!  He's advocating decreasing a fighter's dependency on magic items...

with three or more related magic items (not just one)... :)
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Elven Doritos

#26
June 05, 2006, 07:54:50 PM
Quote from: Epic Meepo
Quote from: Elven DoritosSo, you want to decrease a fighter's dependency on magic items....


with a magic item...
 :rolleyes:

Be fair!  He's advocating decreasing a fighter's dependency on magic items...

with three or more related magic items (not just one)... :)

I know. I was being facetious. ;)
Oh, how we danced and we swallowed the night
For it was all ripe for dreaming
Oh, how we danced away all of the lights
We've always been out of our minds
-Tom Waits, Rain Dogs

Epic Meepo

#27
June 05, 2006, 09:07:47 PM
Quote from: Elven DoritosI know. I was being facetious. ;)

Ah, then we have something in common, at least as far as our last few posts are concerned. ;)
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Raelifin

#28
June 05, 2006, 09:28:26 PM
Quote from: Epic MeepoActually, an attack with a gauntlet counts as an unarmed attack:

Quote from: SRDGauntlet: This metal glove lets you deal lethal damage rather than nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack.
>_< Um... Yeah.
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