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The Republic Reborn

Started by Polycarp, January 23, 2012, 06:16:14 AM

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Elemental_Elf

[ic=The Court]I thank you Patrician Pierleone for your patience. I wished to gather all evidence and testimony for your side of the case before hearing Consul Calafactus' side. With that in mind, I now call Consul Calafactus to recount his version of events. [/ic] 

[ooc]I will accept the testimony of Patrician Pierleone's men without needed to write it all out. I simply wanted to verify his story. The same will hold true with the Vigili. [/ooc]

Polycarp

[ooc=Current Tally]Election of 1153
Total votes: 37
Votes cast: 32
Votes remaining: 5

Senator Calafatus: 13
Senator Basile: 13
Senator Manzinni: 6

This is the current tally for the election of 1153, before bribery is applied.  The deadline is Sunday, March 18th.  The election may also end earlier by consensus if there are only two candidates with votes after all votes have been cast.[/ooc]
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"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aurelius

Magnus Pym

[ic=To the Lesser Council]

Senators, though we have other important matter to attend to at the moment, I must point to the fact that answers lacked, as to my asking of your opinion on getting Rome a presence on the seas. It is a matter of prosperity and yet, those who should've heed the call have all but kept silent. Truly, I am saddened. I will let the matter rest for a short while, until the recent... unfortunate events are dealt with, but hear me well; I will be pushing for this very important matter in the future.[/ic]

LD

#303
[ic=Private To DeRosa]
I appreciate your clarifications of your plan, good Signore. The idea of purchasing land and attracting the Blacksmiths seems a capital one- somewhat of an establishment of a workers' commune. I suspect the investment would require one of us to put forth the wealth to purchase the iron and one wealth to establish the land, correct?

In that instance, I would suggest that we split the proceeds and the costs evenly.

I would also suggest acquisition of the land before the new Giosani code is established-the land costs could grow much higher after the establishment and the legal process to purchase the land could slow down matters immensely.[/ic]

Polycarp- is that right? Could we split the profits evenly, or would we need to say a. Manzinni buys the iron; and b. DeRosa buys the land. and take our profits/losses that way.


[ic=Private To DeRosa]Once again I am honoured by your support and I understand the political situation that has resulted in your placing your votes in that fashion. But one Senator has yet to speak his intentions in the coming election-Bernardo di Fontaine. I fear though that the man may be bitter about my support for Basile in the past election, so without his word in the current election, I cannot count on his support. My Masnada has sent inquiries about and we have discovered the situation is difficult. If I were to pull all my votes, I would outnumber Basile, but Basile would almost certainly pull his one vote for Calafactus to set us into a three-way dead heat at 11 votes apiece. The deciding factor then would be a reassortment of the remaining votes, or diFontaine to choose wherever he wont.[/ic]

[ic=Private to Basile]Ah, then I am humored by hearing your words. We are of like mind and I share your hopes about the Pope being a man of reason where his relationship with his nephew is concerned. I also support your league with Rieti and Perugia and your work on the walls.I would love to see Rome's profit base increased and perhaps we can determine how to best improve our income from Pilgrims in the coming year and coming season--to attract more pilgrims and to gain more profit from them as it were.

Onto the larger issue at hand; DeRosa has chosen to support me with his votes, so as to not cause a political situation to arise by his seeming to favor the current establishment. I believe I am obligated to move some support to myself so as not to embarrass my friend.  I do note, however, that were I to pull all of my votes and were you to withdraw your vote for Fortis, then we would be in a dead-heat at 11 votes apiece. This would be an odd situation for Rome.

You have served us well and I will gladly continue my support of you and your causes.

I suggest then that the situation may be avoided by an arrangement between the two of us. I would, of course, place a single vote for myself so as to not embarrass DeRosa's position, but I would throw the rest of my support as it currently stands. In return for my support I would be honored if, now, you could make a speech detailing your support for the Giosani when you are elected, if you could permit a specific land deal to take place for DeRosa to the extent that it is legal in the pre-Giosani legal system-for there can be some teething problems when a new legal code is established and DeRosa would rather not be caught up in red-tape, and that you make me privy to some business of the Consuls; then together perhaps, we can confer on and solve some of the difficulties confronting our great Rome. I would of course, retain discretion on that matter. [read: Manzinni wants access to know of the private consul business and have input on it-Basile would still make the decisions, but Manzinni would like to be in the loop].

Would you be amenable to such a solution?

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Elemental_Elf

OOC: I was able to acquire the land for my inns for nothing. The cost is actually building the structures. If we both spent 1 wealth, then we could get the land, build a good place to work and acquire some iron. All that would be left would be attracting the Smiths.

Polycarp

#305
Yes, land in the city is - for now - essentially free; this is, after all, a city that once held a million and now holds only 30,000.

The vast majority of the present population lives by the river, particularly in the Field of Mars.  The hills are practically abandoned.
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"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aurelius

LD

Ok. Thanks, I just struck out the request to Basile then that was related to the land deal.

One question in the land acquisition- this is not within the walls- so if Rome was beseiged, the blacksmitheries would be destroyed, right? Manzinni isn't so interested in that. He'd like it if the blacksmitheries have at least some protection in the event of a siege.

Elemental_Elf

Why can't the black smiths be located in town? Sure its smokey and loud for the neighbors but... This is the future of Rome we're talking about! They can just move!

Magnus Pym

Polycarp, I would like to be allowed one more day to get my actions and IC stuff done, please. St-Patrick's weekend is really busy for me. Kinda leaves me mind-f*****, too.

TheMeanestGuest

The vote is due today. Not your orders.
Let the scholar be dragged by the hook.

LD

Any response to my last note to Basile?

Polycarp

#311
[ooc=Current Tally]Election of 1153
Total votes: 37
Votes cast: 32
Votes remaining: 5

Senator Calafatus: 13
Senator Basile: 12
Senator Manzinni: 7

This is the current tally for the election of 1153, before bribery is applied.  The deadline is TODAY at 8 PM CST - 4 hours from this message being posted![/ooc]
The Clockwork Jungle (wiki | thread)
"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aurelius

LD


Polycarp

Ideally, by agreement; "I'll back you to break the tie if you do X/give X."  Alternately, through bribery.  If the Senators can't resolve the issue through discussion, there will be a political crisis.  In Rome, "political crisis" usually means "rioting."
The Clockwork Jungle (wiki | thread)
"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aurelius

TheMeanestGuest

[ic=Privately to Senator Manzinni]
It is good to hear that I should still have your support in this election, Vittorio. However, I am not sure that I see the utility of such a speech. In all my actions, and through all my words as Consul of Rome I think I have made it quite clear that all citizens are entitled to some equality before the law. Regardless, I do not think to hold such matters solely in my own hands. It has come into my mind that there should be a vote among the members of the lesser council, and through this vote it should be decided which legal tradition the Roman courts should embrace.

My ears are always open, Senator, and I am not averse to hearing the thoughts of any member of the Senate on any issue as it concerns our Commune. Indeed, I welcome it, as many minds can often seek out a suitable solution all the quicker.[/ic]
Let the scholar be dragged by the hook.