Shadow's Rising PBP (setup)

[Higgs Boson]

You said four as Poseidon, Me, Golem, and Natural 20 all responded. :-p

[Higgs Boson]

Heres my background story:
        Kevkas was born to a noble family, but as they had figured out a rivalâ,¬,,¢s dark secret, he suddenly used that which he had kept secret, and took over the town with his undead minions; revealing himself as a powerful lich. Kevkas was the only one of his family to survive, and has since then harbored an extreme hatred for the undead, and wishes to amount enough power so that he can take back the city and avenge thei deaths.

[Wensleydale]

Okay - how about he was let on loan to the colleges, for training? The Aeia idea sounds good.

[Captain Obvious]

You said four as Poseidon, Me, Golem, and Natural 20 all responded. :-p

Oh yeah. duh.  hey Crit! any more word of your availiability?

As for your background Voran, that seems totally fine. I would say that the twon should be something down to the south - either south of the desert or on the western edge of the desert near the shore. Actually i think the small patch or non desert south-west of the big volcano and by those three islands would be a good are for it. Three reasons for this.
- foreign noble type would be easier to deal with than a local.
- it's near the desert so your diety would make sense there.
- if a town was overrun by undead in eltabar, they would likely be dealt with.

in that are the primary populations are orcs, humans, minotaurs and some lizardmen typed guys (not actual lizardfolk, but rather bipedal desert reptiles). no central goverment, but just many small villages, some larger town ruled by local noble and many nomadic encampments, specifically of orcs and the lizard guys.

 [blockquote=Golem]Okay - how about he was let on loan to the colleges, for training? The Aeia idea sounds good. [/blockquote]
Yeah that sounds just fine. It could be either that, he's on a military asignment, or he's rogue. If using the first, then my justification for them letting him go out on his own is that since and Aeia is like a personality/soul/sense of identity, they are figuring to help it develop fully they are letting it experience a life for itself. Previous ones were mostly constrained to labs and controlled settings and they seemed to stay at the standard level of warforged self-identity. By giving it the option of unfettered interaction, they hope the Aeia may fully grow.

[Poseptune]

I hope you don't mind, but I like my style of character sheet. I copied it from your old game, so it still has a few things from my Raptoran that I need to change.

Almax Duneith
M Changeling Rogue 2
N

Rolls
[table=Abilities]
[tr][th]Ability[/th][th]Score[/th][th]Mod[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]STR[/td][td]15[/td][td]+2[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DEX[/td][td]17[/td][td]+3[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CON[/td][td]12[/td][td]+1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]INT[/td][td]17[/td][td]+3[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]WIS[/td][td]10[/td][td]+0[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CHA[/td][td]12[/td][td]+1[/td][/tr][/table]

AC 16, Touch 13, Flat 13
Init +3
BAB +1, Grap +3
Speed 30,(base 30, 48lbs/--lbs Light Load, No Armor)
Fort +01, Ref +06, Will +00

[table=Attacks]
[tr][th]Bonus[/th][th]M or R[/th][th]Weapon[/th][th]Damage[/th][th]Critical[/th][th]Range[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]+04[/td][td]Melee[/td][td]MWK Rapier[/td][td]1d6+2[/td][td]18-20/x2[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]+03[/td][td]Melee[/td][td]Dagger[/td][td]1d4+2[/td][td]19-20/x2[/td][td]10â,¬,,¢[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]+04[/td][td]Ranged[/td][td]+2 Str Composite Shortbow [/td][td]1d6+2[/td][td]x3[/td][td]70'[/td][/tr]
[/table]
Medium, 5'4" tall, 118 wt, 23 yrs old
White Hair, White Eyes, Gray Skin

Lanuages:
Common, Dwarven, Orc, Elven

[table=Skills]
[tr][th] Total Mod [/th] [th]Skill Name[/th]   [th]Ranks[/th] [th]Ability Mod[/th][th]Misc[/th] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Bluff (Cha)       [/td][td]3[/td][td]1[/td][td]2[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+04[/th][td] Diplomacy (Cha)       [/td][td]3[/td][td]1[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Disable Device  (Dex)    [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0 [/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+04[/th][td] Disguise  (Cha) [/td]   [td]3[/td][td]1[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Escape Artist (Dex)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+04[/th][td] Forgery (Int)    [/td]   [td]1[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+04[/th][td] Gather Info (Cha)    [/td][td]3[/td][td]1[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Hide (Dex)       [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+03[/th][td] Intimidate (Cha)       [/td][td]0[/td][td]1[/td][td]2[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Knowledge (Local) (Int)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+03[/th][td] Listen (Wis)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Move Silently (Dex)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Open Lock (Dex)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Search (Int)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+05[/th][td] Sense Motive (Wis)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td][td]2[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Sleight of Hand (Dex)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+03[/th][td] Spot (Wis)   [/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Tumble (Dex)       [/td][td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+04[/th][td] UMD (Cha)       [/td][td]3[/td][td]1[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
[tr][th]+06[/th][td] Use Rope (Dex) [/td]   [td]3[/td][td]3[/td][td]0[/td] [/tr]
 [/table]


Feats
-Combat Expertise

Racial Features
- +2 Saves vs sleep and charm effects
- +2 Racial Bonus to Bluff, Intimidate, and Sense Motive
- Natural Linguist
- Minor Shape Change


Class Abilities
-Sneak Attack 1d6
-Trapfinding
-Evasion


[spoiler=Equipment and Coins]

[table=Equipment]
[tr][th]Name[/th]            [th]Price[/th]   [th]Weight[/th]   [th]Location[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]MWK Rapier[/td]            [td]320.00gp[/td]   [td]2lb[/td]   [td]Left Hip[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]+2 Str Composite Shortbow[/td]      [td]275.00gp[/td]   [td]3lb[/td]   [td]Back[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Arrows (20)[/td]         [td]001.00gp[/td]   [td]3lb[/td]   [td]Back[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]x2 Dagger[/td]         [td]004.00gp[/td]   [td]4lb[/td]   [td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Studded Leather[/td]         [td]175.00gp[/td]   [td]20lb[/td]   [td]Worn[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]MWK Theives Tools[/td]         [td]100.00gp[/td]   [td]2lb[/td]   [td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Water Skin[/td]            [td]001.00gp[/td]   [td]4lb[/td]   [td]Belt[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Backpack[/td]            [td]002.00gp[/td]   [td]2lb[/td]   [td]Back[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Silk Rope[/td]            [td]010.00gp[/td]   [td]5lb[/td]   [td]Backpack[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Whetstone[/td]            [td]000.02gp[/td]   [td]1lb[/td]   [td]Backpack[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Grappling Hook[/td]         [td]001.00gp[/td]   [td]4lb[/td]   [td]Backpack[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Totals:[/th][th]0889.02gp[/th][th]48lb[/th][th] [/th][/tr]

[/table]
[table=Coins]
[tr][th]Gold Pieces[/th][td]10[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Silver Pieces[/th][td]9[/td][/tr]
[tr][th]Copper Pieces[/th][td]8[/td][/tr]
[/table]
[/spoiler]

[Wensleydale]

Whoo, a healer for Ankh, and free scrolls to copy! :P

I'll be editing my background ASAP.

[Captain Obvious]

@golem: i think that the scrolls and the repairing were still left over from before when he was a raptoran sorc. I could be wrong, but i'd bet they are going to change.
Also, in the warforged entry in the race section of the thread it will talk about them having +2 on will saves against illusions and enchantments and -2 on charisma based skills, but you can ignore this as it won't aply to you. this is the base warforged without the experimental fake Aeia, where as you should just follow the normal warforged racial traits.

[Wensleydale]

Yay. :D

I'm guessing you're right, actually. I presumed he had ranks in UMD.

[Poseptune]

Yeah those are just left overs from the Raptoran. He was a sorcerer and had a few repair scrolls because of Crit's warforged character.

Now Almax may have some skill points in craft skills as well as UMD. :)

I know this is pushing it, but is this allowed Alternate Rogue

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Rogue
The rogue who favors martial training over stealth and cunning can profit if she chooses her fights carefully.

Gain
Bonus feats (as fighter).

Lose
Sneak attack.

Basically lose Sneak Attack progression for Fighter Bonus Feat Progression.

[Captain Obvious]

Yeah those are just left overs from the Raptoran. He was a sorcerer and had a few repair scrolls because of Crit's warforged character.

Now Almax may have some skill points in craft skills as well as UMD. :)

I know this is pushing it, but is this allowed Alternate Rogue

Basically lose Sneak Attack progression for Fighter Bonus Feat Progression.

uuuh, ..... well, i'm okay with almost all variants, even UA ones, but that one doesn't seem to fit. The generic classes later on give +2, +3 and +4 d6 sneak attack for feats which seems to imply they aren't equal. Also, compare to a lvl 2 fighter. you give up 2hp/level on average, some weapon and armour proficiencies and 1 BAB in exchange for quadruple skill points, a much better skill list (including UMD), evasion and trapfinding. It seems like it could form an interesting basis for the lightly armoured warrior (which is needed), but it would need tweaking first.

tell you what, take it for these 2 levels and i'll just play it by ear. If it seems too good, you'll keep what you have and then progress in eithr fighter or rogue and you can pick which one to count the 2 levels as so you can avoind extra mulitclassing penalties.

that sound good?
(bear in mind that you may not be allowed to go past level 2 in that variant)

[Poseptune]

I don't need it, I just saw it and thought it would be cool to finally get rid of the sneak attack feature. I agree it doesn't seem right.

That was an UA variant.

I also may be reading it wrong, it may mean that every time I would get sneak attack increase I would get a fighter bonus instead. I don't know, but like I said I don't need it. I was just trying to get rid of sneak attack and have a more diplomatic/spy like rogue than the stab you in the back rogue.

[Wensleydale]

*nod*

I think you were reading it right, Poseidon. But I think that it would be more balanced, at least, if you let it have the feat progression, at, say, every fourth level (or whatever sneak attacks scale by).

However, we must remember that by something like 8th level, rogues are useless as written. Hide? Invisibility. Open lock? Knock. Disable traps? Oh please. I think blackguard gets sneak attack, too.

ANYWAY...

[Captain Obvious]

So, it seems that Crit will be too busy for the next while to join us. I would like to have at least 4 or 5 before we start. I prefer 5 but i'll begin with 4 if that's all we have. So hopefully we get someone to speak up soonish since i'm looking forwards to starting this.

If we go a little while more with nobody, then i'll just start with 3 and hopefully be able to add in another player or two somewhere down the line.

[Gwaihir Windlord]

Hey, can I play?  I was looking at the thread, and you guys have, what, a cleric, a rogue, and a wizard.  Now what are you gonna do when you start fighting?  You're gonna call on Daín Ironhammer, Dwarven Fighter Extraordinare, and he will beat the snot out of whoever we're fighting.  That is, if you guys want me to play.

[Captain Obvious]

Sure man, be glad to have you along (it's so weird to have a wizard/cleric/fighter/rogue party. normally it's all weird stuff). Just send me a character sheet for the guy. I believe that all the racial traits for dwarves are more or less the same. they have a couple minor changes, but go ahead and use the standard dwarf. If you want any help or advice with fitting him in, just ask (there's a fair bit of stuff and ideas not yet posted on the thread for the CS).

Also, for both you and Posiedon, i'd like if you could make a background for your guys. I can help with this if you want, and give info on races, cultures, nations and whatnot.

Dwarves for the most part are a mixture of pompous and overbearing, and are frequently patronizing and even nuturingly protective towards other races. They are one of the oldest cultures and were civilized and advanced at a time when most others were still small primitive tribes. They are also the primary inventors of the art of wizardry and other ways of tapping into the magic of the world through ritual and study as opposed to natural talents. They are among the most formidable arcane spellcasters in the world. They have many fighters, knights, wizards and spellblades.

Changelings have no unified culture, but rather tend to take on the traits of whatever group they live with.

Go a bit of work to do first, but i'm thinking of maybe a rough start date set for around a week from now.