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Discussion: The World

Started by daggerhart, March 29, 2006, 02:13:11 PM

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wrldcreator

I like Map B. It has a good mass of continentstowards the top and a good string of islands which could offer some wild adventures.
Wrldcreator

Jürgen Hubert

Guys, here is a limited time offer:

If you can agree on which of the maps you are going to use, I'll draw a vector-based map with Inkscape for it, outlining the coastlines and mountains and adding major rivers to it. I need the practice before I draw a map for Urbis with it.

Inkscape is ideal for such a project because it is Open Source (i.e., freely downloadable), multi-platform, and freely scalable. And you can always create new layers for certain map features (cities, unique sites, and so on), making it easy to create specific maps for every opportunity.

And as an added bonus, the .svg format used by Inkscape can be viewed directly by the Firefox browser (though it's easy to convert the maps into PNG format).

But my time is limited, and I might soon be distracted by other projects. So I want to know which maps you are going to use as soon as possible - within the next few days at the latest.

So put it to a vote already...
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Túrin

Hey Jürgen,

Thanks for your very kind offer. Unfortuantely, voting is impossible at the moment: polling options are not working at the moment. However, it seems the last map posted by Ishmayl might very well be the one we'll use. I'd suggest you take that one as the basis and give it a go. Hopefully, if you could just wait a few days, people will read your and my post here and we could gather some support for this idea. Let's say: if three people other than me support my suggestion of using the latest map posted by Ishmayl in the next few days, we'll just do that and confirm things in a more official way later. Yay for pseudo-democracy, for it gets things done quickly! ;)

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"Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate; and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Shaping of Middle-Earth

Numinous

The last map looks fine to me.
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Ishmayl-Retired

Agreed; in all honesty, anything to get this project moving again is fine with me :)
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Jürgen Hubert

Ishmayl, can you also give me the exact settings and random seeds you used for those maps?

I'd like to recreate them for a height of 2000 before I trace them - it will get much more accurate this way...
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Ishmayl-Retired

Sorry Jurgen, I don't have that information :(  I'm sure I did at one time, but I can no longer find it anywhere.
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Wensleydale

Wow... this looks good... what I've got from the wiki and this together is basically that Cebegia has a big empire that's been slowly reforming, plenty of city-states, and two religions, Totem Gods and... Saints, was it?

Jürgen Hubert

Quote from: IshmaylSorry Jurgen, I don't have that information :(  I'm sure I did at one time, but I can no longer find it anywhere.

This complicates things.

To create a good vector map, I need bitmaps that are as high resulution as possible, and there simply isn't much detail in the 250 px height maps you provided.

I hesitate to create all-new base maps this late, but I'm afraid I see no other options. I've attached 8 new maps - numbered 1 to 8 - to this post. What's more, I'm listing the settings for each of these maps so that you can recreate them for yourself - blow them up to a height of 2000 pixels, and you'll see the difference.

The map details are:

All maps use Square Projection and 5000 Iterations

Map 1:



Random Seed: 30804867
%Water: 83
%Ice: 5
%Rotation: 207


Map 2:



Random Seed: 555669631
%Water: 65
%Ice: 23
%Rotation: 268


Map 3:



Random Seed: 1565957398
%Water: 26
%Ice: 31
%Rotation: 326


Map 4:



Random Seed: 1234478784
%Water: 44
%Ice: 5
%Rotation: 355


Map 5:



Random Seed: 2106066898
%Water: 85
%Ice: 8
%Rotation: 35


Map 6:



Random Seed: 1725544296
%Water: 46
%Ice: 9
%Rotation: 277


Map 7:



Random Seed: 526421886
%Water: 82
%Ice: 10
%Rotation: 157

Map 8:



Random Seed: 1540817243
%Water: 56
%Ice: 5
%Rotation: 168


So, which one do you prefer?
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Wensleydale

Map two and map six both have a lot of potential in my eyes.

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Numinous

4 and 8 work for me as well
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Wensleydale

I thought they had a bit too much landmass, personally.

Túrin

Map 3 has too much land but otherwise I don't lean too strongly in any one way. Anyone with a strong preference should speak up now, otherwise we're going with map #8. Notice those two brown spot on the continent on the right side of map #8? The left one could be the new Empire, perhaps?

@ Golem011: Yes, you summarized the content we have quite nicely. See also the theme statement in the stickied thread.

Túrin
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My setting Orden's Mysteries is no longer being updated


"Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate; and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Shaping of Middle-Earth

Wensleydale

Whoo.

We don't actually have very much at all, do we... :P