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Started by Sacred.Stone, May 22, 2007, 10:29:18 PM

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Sacred.Stone

May 22, 2007, 10:29:18 PM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Master Hagortough
Are there certain lifeforms... certain plants, molds, fungoids, bacterias, etc... that contain higher concentration of carbon than others? For instance, what organism on Earth has the highest concentration of carbon in it pound for pound?

Raelifin

#1
May 22, 2007, 10:53:58 PM
I'm guessing that any biochemist likely to be able to answer this will also find the reason for your question important.

or

Why do you ask?

Sacred.Stone

#2
May 22, 2007, 10:56:11 PM
Well I want the people in my futuristic society, which lives on a variety of planets, to be able to extract carbon for the purpose of creating steel, since not all planets will have coal and I doubt the planets that do would have enough to fund the steel production of an entire civilization spanning several solar systems.

Tangential

#3
May 22, 2007, 11:03:17 PM
I think he's wanting to mine these critters's carbon for armour and plastics.
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Sacred.Stone

#4
May 23, 2007, 03:34:36 AM
The people are PeTA are gonna kill me.

Tangential

#5
May 23, 2007, 03:37:39 AM
Tasty Animals!
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Sacred.Stone

#6
May 23, 2007, 04:00:22 AM
I'm feeling particularly feisty after talking to my ex-girlfriend. Perhaps troublesome humans could be harvested for their carbon? Meehehehheeh.

beejazz

#7
May 23, 2007, 04:08:05 AM
Hardly seems worthwhile... unless your ex was really heavy on the biomass (by which I mean, like, WHALE).

Otherwise, she's probably only good for one tupperware party.
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What?
England.
Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

Sacred.Stone

#8
May 23, 2007, 04:10:29 AM
Aww that's okay. It'd be worth it. Drinking out of her skull just seems so macabre and barbaric. Better to harvest her molecules and make useful items out of them. I can drink out of a plastic mug made from her carbon stores. :) That is much more sophisticated, and hence, civilized. ;)

beejazz

#9
May 23, 2007, 04:19:25 AM
Yes, and you could decorate the whole set with a matching "pink flowers" motif. It'd be downright cute.

But seriously, in your setting, if you're thinking biomass you're thinking lots of it. Plastics would probably only work (from a business standpoint) if it was industrialized.

Which makes converting humans for plastics so much more awesome. You've got to think of an excuse for a giant factory where sentient beings go in and cheap consumer goods come out... like a Wal-Mart run by Baalors. Or is it already?
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QuoteI don't believe in it anyway.
What?
England.
Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

Sacred.Stone

#10
May 23, 2007, 04:25:54 AM
The reason is easy enough. Just think about Nazi Germany (oops! I mentioned the Nazi's. Godwin's Law is true!) where Jews were slaughtered for economic reasons. I'm sure in the future humanity would not spontaneously become "enlightened" and stop the practices of slavery and genocide. :)

"You've got to think of an excuse for a giant factory where sentient beings go in and cheap consumer goods come out... like a Wal-Mart run by Baalors. Or is it already?"

Dude that has short story written all over it man. It'd be funny to read. Someone should write it.

beejazz

#11
May 23, 2007, 04:39:09 AM
Oh, so you're not going to use it then? Does that mean I just came up with my first idea for an original short-story?

Such an odd feeling this is... I am obligated to write.
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QuoteI don't believe in it anyway.
What?
England.
Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

Sacred.Stone

#12
May 23, 2007, 04:41:28 AM
I was just musing. If you like the idea of a factory Walmart run by Baalors in which sentient beings go in one end and cheap consumer goods come out the other, then by all means, use it. :)

Xathan

#13
May 23, 2007, 09:33:40 AM
As amusing as humans as fuel is
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on the original question, most life, as far as I know, has a releatively similar carbon composition. What you're going to want is something that stores in large amounts easily, so I'm going to go with mold - it'd be really easy to layer mold growing platforms really gightly with mold on both the top and bottom and small tubes to spray water/nutrients inbetween. In an operation like the one you propose, surface area is everything. (now that I think about it, the platforms could have small...say, 3 inch thick...tubes running through them spaced about 3 inches apart with nutrient/water dispensing tubes between them, allowing mold to grow on those surfaces as well.)
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#14
May 23, 2007, 01:19:08 PM
I GOT IT.

URINE.

Me and my friend one time had to pee in a bucket (long story) and forgot about it in his attic. When we rediscovered it months later, nothing was left but this black stuff that he said was "carbon". There could be... urine farms!
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