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[beejazz]

Your game idea sounds cool, but I fear permadeath would result in really unsocial behaviour from some parties. Maybe if there was some kind of retribution system to punish kings who feel like killing all the firstborn sons of their empire?
An extension of your idea could be a "living world" kind of thing where each time you die you wake up as a new random character (with full control over said person). A whole karma system thing could keep people reincarnating based on past actions. Die unfairly and you might wake up as the crown prince :p

I didn't really get into the system, but my thought is you'd win influence by having people support you voluntarily (there are reasons why this would be advantageous for people below you... not the least of which is that if your leader can't get anything done, your neighbor conquers you and you're back to the bottom rung). If you have influence you can hand out assignments and such. If you don't, someone below you can gain more influence than you have. Also, kill all the firstborn sons and you're getting killed and losing that crown forever. If anything, permadeath means you get careful once you're on the throne.

My real worry is about new players killing kings because they don't have anything to lose yet.

[Ninja D!]

It should be mentioned that DC Universe Online is an action MMOG.

[beejazz]

And for how a first-person game would have "real war" elements, imagine a cross between this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Settlers_II and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront

Mostly, anything on the old list has been done before. Even the localized scarcity based economy is present in a bukkit plugin somewhere.

[Steampunk Knight]

Still haven't gotten that far in, hell I haven't even picked it up since my last post. Be from your comments it get the feeling that I am going to be very disappointed with it. Hopefully it will not have the same effect that FF XIII had, and make me never want to play any further games in the series.

FFXIII was really bad. Like, really, really bad. Twilight Princess isn't great, and I wouldn't say it's a bad game per se, but compared to what the franchise has lived up to, it is, in my opinion, a bad game. By itself, it's decent.

FFXIII makes me cringe. I feel like Squarenix really just wants to make bad movies at this point.

Yeah FFXIII is the worse game I have played in the last few years. it was so bad that i had more fun playing Two Worlds, and that game is abysmal on every level.

FFXIII was so bad that when x-play gave it a 5 out of 5 i stopped watching the whole channel.

but Square has been going down hill since FFX-2, its like they have forgotten how to make good games. you are right it is like they are trying to make CGI movies, but it is a downward trend in all media. these days it is all about style over substance. 

[Elemental_Elf]

WHAT!? FFVIII WAS GREAT!

EDIT: Oh you mean FFXIII... Yeah that game was made of poo. Wait no, I'm thinking of FFXI... Never played 13.

[Elemental_Elf]

but Square has been going down hill since FFX-2, its like they have forgotten how to make good games. you are right it is like they are trying to make CGI movies, but it is a downward trend in all media. these days it is all about style over substance. 

IIRC, X-2 was the first game made without the original creator of FF. Without his guiding hands, the whole franchise has been down hill.

I really, really dislike the watching a CGI movie that requires me to actively move a character from one gorgeous cut scene to the next.

[Steampunk Knight]

WHAT!? FFVIII WAS GREAT!

EDIT: Oh you mean FFXIII... Yeah that game was made of poo. Wait no, I'm thinking of FFXI... Never played 13.

(trying not to sound like an ass)
IMHO FFVIII wasn't that good of a game. I'm sure some one here will tell me that it has the best story, but when you send most of your time getting in combat just so you can steal spells, to use in combat it gets a little boring. I think I made it to disc two before I just gave up.

FF IX is still my favorite.

I am very interested in knowing why you think it is so good? 

IIRC, X-2 was the first game made without the original creator of FF. Without his guiding hands, the whole franchise has been down hill.

That I did not know, but it explains a lot.

[Weave]

For me, FFVIII was a great game. Or at least, I thought it was until I recently went back and played it. The system of functioning and drawing really is pretty dull, and sometimes the story had some weird moments, but otherwise I still remembered a solid(ish) game from my childhood. I did note that a lot of my fondest memories were largely fueled by nostalgia, and without that, I might very well think it a pretty boring game.

Don't even start me on X-2. XII I had very mixed feelings about. On the one hand, it was a decent game BY ITSELF. As a FF game, I hated it. The main character looks like a porn star, has almost zero role in the story, and the game was no longer character driven, it was world driven. The game was also just a sell at their failure of an MMO that is XI. Yes, I'm fairly bitter about all of this :P.

FF X remains my favorite FF game.

[Steampunk Knight]

For me, FFVIII was a great game. Or at least, I thought it was until I recently went back and played it. The system of functioning and drawing really is pretty dull, and sometimes the story had some weird moments, but otherwise I still remembered a solid(ish) game from my childhood. I did note that a lot of my fondest memories were largely fueled by nostalgia, and without that, I might very well think it a pretty boring game.

Don't even start me on X-2. XII I had very mixed feelings about. On the one hand, it was a decent game BY ITSELF. As a FF game, I hated it. The main character looks like a porn star, has almost zero role in the story, and the game was no longer character driven, it was world driven. The game was also just a sell at their failure of an MMO that is XI. Yes, I'm fairly bitter about all of this :P.

FF X remains my favorite FF game.

X is near the top of my list, but IX holds the top stop just because it was the first one I played. X-2 was like playing Charlie's Angels the game. and we are not talking the campy 70's version, no we are talking about the Diaz/Barrymore/Liu abomination.

didn't FF just launch a new MMO XIV I think.

[Superfluous Crow]

... I have actually never played a FF game.
Are they good? :p
(this is what I get for growing up with xbox and Nintendo 64)

EDIT: I have seen people play the fight scenes and that gameplay looks a little... stale? I am sure I'm looking at it the wrong way...

[Steampunk Knight]

... I have actually never played a FF game.
Are they good? :p
(this is what I get for growing up with xbox and Nintendo 64)

EDIT: I have seen people play the fight scenes and that gameplay looks a little... stale? I am sure I'm looking at it the wrong way...

For the most part they are, every game franchise has a bad game or two.
If you have the means, I would pick up X, XI, VII (I think this game is MASSIVELY over rated, but most think it is the best game of them all), and VI.

As for the fight scenes, turn base combat always looks boring, but for some reason is highly addictive. 

[LoA]

I'm assuming this is the random chit chat thread so here I go.

I need help with my game. I'm playing shadow of the colossus on hard mode, and am taking on all of the colossi in time attack mode to unlock the items. I've defeated 8 colossi within the alloted time period, but only the harpoon and the sun sword hve appeared. is this normal, or did something goof?

[Ninja D!]

"What's that?"
"Carpet cleaner."
"I didn't know 409 made carpet cleaner."
"Neither did I. It came with the house."
"It came...with the house?"
"Yeah, I found it by the washing machine when we moved in."
"...oh."

[Xathan]

"What's that?"
"Carpet cleaner."
"I didn't know 409 made carpet cleaner."
"Neither did I. It came with the house."
"It came...with the house?"
"Yeah, I found it by the washing machine when we moved in."
"...oh."

Please tell me that didn't actually happen.

[Ninja D!]

That actually happened. The first one was me, then it was my girlfriend. The back and forth should be obvious.