Holy Crap, 4th Edition???

[Jharviss]

I'm starting to think that almost every possible idea has been attempted at the CBG.

[Elven Doritos]

I'm starting to think that almost every possible idea has been attempted at the CBG.

Twice, usually.

[Soup Nazi]

The only thing I'm frustrated with is that this announcement has instantly killed my desire to write crunch. I'm going to see about shifting gears to writing up my world's class and race fluff, so I'm ready to convert, and do what I can writing history and other fluffy goodnesses in the mean time.

Otherwise, almost everything I've seen so far has me excited; especially Tome of Battle.

I'm totally with you on the crunch thing. I have literally like a hundred feats, 10 prestige classes, 25 fully stated affiliations (PHB II style), more than 50 alternate class features, and other crunchy bits for my homebrew...all for naught if I'm going to adopt a new edition of rules.

Yet, I'm still exited about 4E.

Anybody want some free 3.5 crunch?

[Ra-Tiel]

So everything that WotC is saying is revolutionary about 4e my group has been doing for about 2 years now. We gather every other saturday at by buddy Cory's and everyone sets up their laptop/desktop. We have excel character sheets, an online shared battlemat (using google docs/spreadsheets) that we can all modify on the fly, and have most books in pdf format. So my question is, how is this "revolutionary"?

Well I can say only the following:
* the group I play with meets sometimes at somebody else's house, so bringing your desktop computer is not really that practical
* only one of us has a laptop
* excel sheets suck, because they usually don't work with OOo and I don't have the ~130,¬ for a MSO student license :P
* with the same people I play "Ars Magica", and I can tell you, having somebody store his character in a Word document and hide behind the screen all the time sucks :-/
* not all books are legally available in PDF format ;)

:P

[Stargate525]

Jharviss, it's actually been attempted before.  There was a large project awhile back called "A New Way to Play" or something like that, but like most projects where people aren't truly interested, it disappeared.

Quite literally, it seems. I can't even locate the thread.

Oh well, time for a new thread then.

[brainface]

Monte Cook's[/url] pet peeves.

Call this a rant if you will, but I'm so tired of this flavorless cover trend that I just had to say something. Even our own Malhavoc Press covers have flirted with this trend, I'll admit. While we don't do the faux-cover books (and never will), we've had a few covers that basically show a single figure without a lot of action. I guess that's okay occasionally, if the figure is really intriguing. Perhaps a better way to express my feeling is to say that, rather than always needing "action," a cover should always be "adventure-inspiring." In other words, it should make me want to play the game.

I see his point on the just-a-book covers really, but i liked the "faux-book with window" ones. (Tome and Blood, Master's of the Wild, etc.)

[Ishmayl-Retired]

My personal opinion is that the Tome of Magic is one of the most beautiful covers (and books for that matter) ever designed in the role playing industry, and I would happily shell out more money for that type of book.  As ElDo told me in conversation, the only issue I would have is that I would be worried about damaging it everytime I opened it up ;)

[Poseptune]

The only thing I'm frustrated with is that this announcement has instantly killed my desire to write crunch. I'm going to see about shifting gears to writing up my world's class and race fluff, so I'm ready to convert, and do what I can writing history and other fluffy goodnesses in the mean time.

Otherwise, almost everything I've seen so far has me excited; especially Tome of Battle.

I'm totally with you on the crunch thing. I have literally like a hundred feats, 10 prestige classes, 25 fully stated affiliations (PHB II style), more than 50 alternate class features, and other crunchy bits for my homebrew...all for naught if I'm going to adopt a new edition of rules.

Yet, I'm still exited about 4E.

Anybody want some free 3.5 crunch?

Submit them to the new Dragon and Dungeon magazines. You'll get paid for them if Wizards likes them.

[Ra-Tiel]

Quite literally, it seems. I can't even locate the thread.

Oh well, time for a new thread then.

Anything specific in mind yet? ^^

[Atlantis]

This is the sign up page, where you put in your personal information and tell us a bit about your interests and preferences (so you we can steal your soul). Note that we want to know about and provide content on all the games you play, not just Wizards games(so we can destroy them! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH).

[Stargate525]

Quite literally, it seems. I can't even locate the thread.

Oh well, time for a new thread then.

Anything specific in mind yet? ^^

Well, do we want to build from the ground up, or work off of a d20 skeleton?

[Ra-Tiel]

Well, do we want to build from the ground up, or work off of a d20 skeleton?

Well, I'm open for anything, but there are some things I must insist on. ;)

1) No critical hit tables, no critical misses, and no random hit location system.
2) No standard v3.5 magic with an unimaginable abundance of redundant spells.
3) Character concept dictates mechanics, not the other way round.
4) Generally speaking, rules should be easy and intuitive (read: everything specific combat actions like grapple, disarm, etc in v3.5 are not).

:P :D

[brainface]

Note that we want to know about and provide content on all the games you play, not just Wizards games(so we can destroy them! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH).

Er... aren't THOSE all wizard's games?

[Poseptune]

Those are the covers

[Jharviss]

I'm not sure I'm a fan of the Player's Handbook cover.  I especially hate when designers make swords look like that.  No normal hero wields a sword that thick.  I think I like the other two though.  The Monster Manual one looks cool.

I read through that Monte Cook article on book covers and I really agreed with it.  I think these are better than the faux-book bookcover.