The Discussion Thread at Dawn!

[Wensleydale]

So basically we're back where we were before the war began?

Awesome, it's ongoing. :P

[Stargate525]

You. Will. Totally. DIE. ;)

[Wensleydale]

I don't see why. My army's apparently large enough to hold you off my home territories until I've built some more boats, and we're pretty much back where we started. :P

[Stargate525]

I don't see why. My army's apparently large enough to hold you off my home territories until I've built some more boats, and we're pretty much back where we started. :P

Thing is, your army won't stop me from simply blockading your harbors and killing off your ships one by one. Not to mention the total trade-stop that would put on your nation.

[amikaligula]

So I take it Inveran did not send spearmen to help Andos take Averra after all?  Oh well, at least we tricked the Auri into thinking we were dead.

[Stargate525]

So I take it Inveran did not send spearmen to help Andos take Averra after all?  Oh well, at least we tricked the Auri into thinking we were dead.

No, we didn't.

My spearmen were supposed to go help the Auri, although I didn't see them mentioned in the Nargaq siege block.

[Polycarp]

Gregor decided that his cause was best served by defending against the Machta; after all, it was entirely possible that Kuregn could send the other half of its fleet and any number of soldiers, especially after 217 when Celend sued for peace.  Inveran assisted in the attempt to sneak men into Nargaq, but after that failed and Nargaq was crushingly defeated by the Auri and Avarderans it was decided that Invernessi aid was no longer necessary.  The Auri contingent alone outnumbered Nargaq's defenders many times over.

[amikaligula]

Oh, yes, I understand.  I was just making sure I was correct in that assumption.  Heck, it's only luck and the ill-fate of the Arranians that saved Andos, anyway, not their strategy.  They had never really been up against the Auri before Averra...

And on that note, about how many, if any, Andosen forces were able to escape?  The war-chiefs were skeptical about the battle being worthwhile to begin with and were under orders not attack Averra's citizens, on the one hand.  On the other, Andosens are not one to run from a fight, especially if fellow clan members are pinned down and cornered, and, as the citizens attacked first in their eyes, they would certainly have had no qualms in killing them any longer.

So what I can't conclude is whether or not the remnants of the Andosen fleet managed to break through the Avarderan's blockade here and there to bring detailed tidings of the battle.

[Polycarp]

The fleet itself did not suffer great losses; the Avarderan ships chased them away but were more interested in blockading the city than hunting down canoes.  Of the warriors within the city, very few escaped, though they took many Avarderan townsmen and soldiers with them.  There was simply nowhere to go.  The King might have shown leniency to the few prisoners, but he was comatose, and the Avarderan soldiers were less concerned with showing mercy.

[Atlantis]

now that my nation has died can i make a new one?

[Polycarp]

Yep.  Same procedure as last time.  You should probably wait until the full update is out, however.

[Stargate525]

And no vengeance!

[Polycarp]

That, of course, goes without saying.  No trans-civilizational memory! :)

[Polycarp]

This is going to be a really big update, as far as I can tell.  It may not be finished until this weekend.

[Wensleydale]

I'm actually considering starting a new nation as well - just so one side of the Invernessi conflict can be 'GM'-led.