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December 17, 2007, 04:50:07 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Haphazzard
Sometimes I forget that the world building clique is both small and obscure...

Quote from: A user on another message board, (regarding homebrew wizard traditions)How often do GMs discuss with other GMs such details of their campaign settings?
I almost sigged it, as a reminder of how odd my own pastimes happen to be, if nothing else.
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Elemental_Elf

#1
December 17, 2007, 05:09:58 AM
Wow! I had no idea we were such an obscure footnote in the world of Roleplaying! It blew me away that people still think like that... Man, this is too funny. Here I was thinking I was a 'just another world-builder,' come to find out, I'm weird! :P

psychoticbarber

#2
December 17, 2007, 12:05:28 PM
I'm proud to be a member of this small but illustrious group.

(I figure a small number of people are either right or crazy, and I'd rather be right ;) )
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SDragon

#3
December 17, 2007, 08:44:04 PM
Oh, I already knew I was weird, and this doesn't suprise me at all. I mean, most DM's are more concerned about the plot, and see the setting as little more then a pretty backdrop...
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psychoticbarber

#4
December 17, 2007, 10:06:16 PM
Quote from: Sdragon1984Oh, I already knew I was weird, and this doesn't suprise me at all. I mean, most DM's are more concerned about the plot, and see the setting as little more then a pretty backdrop...

I'm way more concerned about the plot. I just want a world that gives me plenty to work with, in the style that I want.
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LordVreeg

#5
December 18, 2007, 10:10:58 AM
It gets smaller and more obscure later on, trust me.  Wait until you're in a boardroom or at a lunch meeting and someone brings up that their kids are 'getting to the D&D age', and half of the table reminisces about having gamed when they were younger, and a few admit they play World of Warcraft, and then the conversation moves on.  I just have to push my non-existent hat down over my eyes and nod along.
It actually makes one reflect and wonder about why one gets such a satsfaction in world-building and developing; if it is rooted in a dissatisfaction with the real world, or based on the writer's dynamic to create...or is it just an unwillingness to grow up and deal.  Or some combination.
Until I figure that out, it is keeping me sane, and I'm going to file it along with other 'addictive hobbies'.
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Epic Meepo

#6
December 18, 2007, 03:19:47 PM
Quote from: LordVreegWait until you're in a boardroom or at a lunch meeting and someone brings up that their kids are 'getting to the D&D age', and half of the table reminisces about having gamed when they were younger, and a few admit they play World of Warcraft, and then the conversation moves on.
Nah, I live a few miles from WotC headquarters; a fair number of folks in my area know at least one obscure WotC employee, so they realize that every age is a D&D age. Out here, at least, we're not that small and obscure a group.
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LordVreeg

#7
December 18, 2007, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: Epic Meepo
Quote from: LordVreegWait until you're in a boardroom or at a lunch meeting and someone brings up that their kids are 'getting to the D&D age', and half of the table reminisces about having gamed when they were younger, and a few admit they play World of Warcraft, and then the conversation moves on.
EM, up in Boston, my above noted scenario was played out verbatim at a business lunch with some of our vendor reps.  I'll chalk it up to geography.  My compliments for choosing such a gaming friendly area to live in.
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Haphazzard

#8
December 18, 2007, 06:28:21 PM
Quote from: Epic MeepoSometimes I forget that the world building clique is both small and obscure...

Quote from: A user on another message board, (regarding homebrew wizard traditions)How often do GMs discuss with other GMs such details of their campaign settings?
I do hope you told this poor sap about our wonderful community.
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Roy: Sure, why do you think we're here?
Belkar: Well, I just figured we'd wander around, kill some sentient creatures because they had green skin and fangs and we don't, and then take their stuff.
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