4e DM's Toolkit

[Ninja D!]

Good enough for me.  Keep up the good work!

[Ninja D!]

There is one more thing I would suggest, if it is possible.  The ability to resize, or even maximize, the windows would be great.

[Ninja D!]

Now I've got a problem. I can't get the trigger for my utility power to show up when making my paragon path.

I also can't copy from the output of your program and paste into OpenOffice.  It says the format is not available.

[Pair o' Dice Lost]

There is one more thing I would suggest, if it is possible.  The ability to resize, or even maximize, the windows would be great.

Well, one of the reasons I set it to not be resizeable is that the buttons and fields and everything look horrible when blown up to full screen; I could change it, but it would be a big aesthetic minus.

Now I've got a problem. I can't get the trigger for my utility power to show up when making my paragon path.

I also can't copy from the output of your program and paste into OpenOffice. It says the format is not available. [/quote]

The in-program display or the printed .doc file?

[Ninja D!]

There is one more thing I would suggest, if it is possible.  The ability to resize, or even maximize, the windows would be great.

Well, one of the reasons I set it to not be resizeable is that the buttons and fields and everything look horrible when blown up to full screen; I could change it, but it would be a big aesthetic minus.

Understood.  I suppose if that's what you've got to work with, that's what you've got to work with.  It's not a big deal, just something that would be kind of nice.

Feyburdened[/file]
File: Feyscarred

[Pair o' Dice Lost]

When I click 'Plain Text' then go to 'View Full Path' the information that I have entered is not there.  I mean there is no line that says 'Trigger:' followed by what I entered.  There is a blank line, though.

I also can't copy from the output of your program and paste into OpenOffice. It says the format is not available. [/quote]I mean the in-program display.  I didn't think to check for the saved file, like I should have.[/quote]It appears the program doesn't do exactly what I had thought / hoped, anyway.  It still has uses uses, though, and I will still be playing around with it and giving my feedback.[/quote]It's not perfect but it is much simpler than formatting something totally on your own.  Attached are a couple of paragon paths that I did myself today (I had started the one in toolkit but when I encountered the Trigger problem moved it to OpenOffice).  They may look nicer but I assure you they took a lot more time than using your program.[/quote]and[/i] good-looking. ;)

[Ninja D!]

It's not perfect but it is much simpler than formatting something totally on your own.  Attached are a couple of paragon paths that I did myself today (I had started the one in toolkit but when I encountered the Trigger problem moved it to OpenOffice).  They may look nicer but I assure you they took a lot more time than using your program.

and[/i] good-looking. ;)

I know that is there but I am not sure about how I would be able to put something from that in a 'finished' work.  


All in all, it is still a very nice program.  There is certainly a lot there that I need to play around with yet, too.  I'm looking forward to new features as well.  Something I just thought of that you could one day include would be things from the DMG.  Traps and, even better, diseases.

[Pair o' Dice Lost]

I did not try that, now.  However, that is something that was not used in the power that I was imitating.  Therefor I saw no reason to put it there.

I thought the program was meant to format things exactly like the core books.  The closest thing to that is the power card maker.  By the way, I do like the ability to choose different colors in that.  This formats things nicely, just not in the exact same way.[/quote]I know that is there but I am not sure about how I would be able to put something from that in a 'finished' work.[/quote]All in all, it is still a very nice program.  There is certainly a lot there that I need to play around with yet, too.  I'm looking forward to new features as well.  Something I just thought of that you could one day include would be things from the DMG.  Traps and, even better, diseases.[/quote]
Traps will be in the Monster Creator, and diseases are probably going to be under Ritual Creator (we haven't decided yet).

[Ninja D!]

I was under the impression triggers only went along with interrupts and reactions; I'll take out that limit, then.

While that would make some sense, it does not appear to be the case.  The feat I was looking at was Twilight Teleport.  If you want to take a look for yourself, you can find it on page 141 of the PHB.

I assume by that you mean the pictures and the colored backgrounds behind the class stuff and all that.  That's on hold for the moment since Java doesn't seem to want to print in columns when outputting to a .doc file.  As soon as I get that working, the backgrounds and everything will soon follow.

Yeah, the divisions and alternating colors and all that.  I thought that the idea of the program was to format things like the book.  It doesn't quite do that.  I'm not saying it is not still useful, though, just that it seems to be in a way other than that.

You mean put in the power cards?  They save as .jpg files, so if you can put a .jpg in your file you can use the power cards.

Alright, then.  Good to know.  Not the way I prefer to do things but it is good nonetheless.

Traps will be in the Monster Creator, and diseases are probably going to be under Ritual Creator (we haven't decided yet).

Those both seem like odd places to put them.  Especially if you do that, I think you guys should put together some kind of manual, or at least a thorough FAQ, for such things.  Include in it limits so other people who are less patient than I don't encounter the problems I have and throw a still mostly good program out because they don't understand it.

[Nomadic]

Just a quick question. What is this coded in?

[Pair o' Dice Lost]

While that would make some sense, it does not appear to be the case.  The feat I was looking at was Twilight Teleport.  If you want to take a look for yourself, you can find it on page 141 of the PHB.

Just a quick question. What is this coded in?[/quote]
Java.  It's the easiest way to do GUIs.

[Nomadic]

Ah ok, yea I wasn't able to even look at it (downloads too slow for me). Best of luck though it sounds like you really have something good here.

[Ninja D!]

Well, one of the main purposes was to make it have the same format as the books for posting on forums; the background coloring, pictures, and columns are somewhat secondary for now.  Basically, it will do that eventually, but since I can't get the columns to work that's being pushed back on my priority list.

The biggest problem that I have with that is that it is strictly formatted for the WotC boards, really.  The biggest problem I have with them is that the agreement you make with them when you sign up basically states that you transfer ownership of anything that you post there to them.

How else would you like to do it?  Like I said, I'm doing this to get feedback.

I prefer to have everything in a kind of editable text format.  When it is an image, that is not possible.

Well, traps are in the Monster Creator because they work the same way--arranged by level, given roles, incorporated into combat, etc.  Diseases are specced for Ritual Creator because, at least for right now, diseases and rituals aren't really complex enough to split up into their own creators; it'll most likely turn into a catch-all "miscellaneous creator" button on the main menu with a bunch of smaller sub-creators.

Then it seems to me like feats would go there.  They are far less complex than rituals.

[Pair o' Dice Lost]

The biggest problem that I have with that is that it is strictly formatted for the WotC boards, really.  The biggest problem I have with them is that the agreement you make with them when you sign up basically states that you transfer ownership of anything that you post there to them.

I prefer to have everything in a kind of editable text format.  When it is an image, that is not possible.[/quote]Then it seems to me like feats would go there.  They are far less complex than rituals.[/quote]

The difference is that we were smart enough to think of feats from the outset. ;) Like I said, it'll probably be rearranged to best effect later, but right now we're shoving all late-coming ideas with Rituals temporarily.  I'm planning on eventually consolidating Feats and Powers, since there are several feats with powers attached.

[Ninja D!]

Actually, any forum using the same forum code can handle it (aside from the "Hey, Dice, CBG doesn't use capital code, you moron!" issue), so you can post the same stuff on the WotC forums, ENWorld, here, the Order of the Stick forums, and a bunch of others.

For the most part, you are correct.  The place where I have seen things vary here is the text size, more than anything else.

Ah.  I can probably add an option to print in an editable format; most of the beta testers said they wanted the power cards just so they could print them out to use them in their games, so I figured .jpg files would be the easiest way to do it.  I don't know if I can do that for the next release, but I'll add that to my to-do list.

It isn't a huge deal but it would be nice.  Depending on how into the game I stay and how much free time I have, I may sometimes prefer to format on my own anyway.

The difference is that we were smart enough to think of feats from the outset. ;) Like I said, it'll probably be rearranged to best effect later, but right now we're shoving all late-coming ideas with Rituals temporarily.  I'm planning on eventually consolidating Feats and Powers, since there are several feats with powers attached.

Alright then.