(OOC Setup) Casting for Mana Point Playtest Super Dungeon: Levels 1 through 20!

[Poseptune]

The default array is a 25 point buy.

If you would rather us use that array I have no problem with it.

[brainface]

nah, 4d6 drop lowest comes out to the default array, which can be bought with 25 points (i've tested this :()

unless you're saying "drop results with no roll lower than 12, or less than a +1 total mod" gives about a 32 point buy. i didn't test that...

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the average rolls of 4d6, drop the lowest, abandon rolls with no number >12, abandon rolls with a total mod of less than 2, is the standard array (15,14,13,12,10,8)

barring programming error.

(not that it necessarily matters)

[Xeviat]

The average on a 4d6 drop the lowest is 12.25; I've tested it as well. This rougly comes out to 5 12s and 1 13, which adds up to 25. But, 18s, 17s, 16s, and 15s are worth more, and there are no point values for rolls under 8 ... this skewed the results when I tested 4d6 drop the lowest x6; I ended up with a number close to 31.5.

I used 32 point buy for a long campaign; as long as you generate monsters with the default array, combats are balanced; creatures with standard 3 10s and 3 11s are 1 CR lower vs. 32 point buy characters.

For simplicity, I guess I'll go with default array (16s are just too expensive in 25 point buy).

Limetom's expressed interest in a Paladin;
Neptune a Druid;
Crit a Sorcerer;
CYMRO a Bard;

Brainface, supdadupa? Want to duke it out for the cleric and wizard?

[CYMRO]

For simplicity, I guess I'll go with default array (16s are just too expensive in 25 point buy).

So, you mean 32? :confused1:

[brainface]

here's how yo dit, xeviat :)
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[note]caveat: I'm mostly assuming this is right because i came up with the method on the spot, and it came out matching the elite array with no tweaking at all. I also have the code for this, if anyone wants to check some python code. :/[/note]
The average roll is not 13,12,12,12,12,12
roll 4d6 drop the lowest, 6 times
then SORT the rolls, highest to lowest.
do it several times. add all the highest together, all the second highest together, etc. and take the average.

that is:
roll1: [17, 13, 12, 9, 6, 6]
roll2: [15, 14, 13, 12, 9, 3]
roll3: [14, 14, 14, 13, 12, 11]
roll4: [11, 9, 8, 7, 6, 6]--too low, ignore

avg = (17+15+14)/3, (13+14+14)/3, (12+13+14)/3, (9+12+13)/3, (6+9+12)/3, (6+3+11)/3

or an average stat roll of 15,13,13,11,9,8 for these 3 sets of rolls
(i just made these rolls up off the spot. but i made i program to do ten thousand ability rolls, so i think i got it, barring logic errors :))

you're getting an average of 5 12s and 1 13, but you aren't sorting, nor keeping it in an array. however, stat rolls don't come in 1 value, they come in 6 :)

minor trivia--the actual number of dropped ability rolls according to the phb came out to about 15%
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Brainface, supdadupa? Want to duke it out for the cleric and wizard?

meh, i got dregs.

[Xeviat]

brainface, I love you ... in that platonic brotherly sort of way (didn't men in plato's day have little boys ... scratch that). You're one of the first people in a long time to go the extra length to prove me wrong without being a dick about it. Bravo.

Can we say dick on these boards?

And what's dregs?

No, CYMRO, I'm thinking I'm going to use default array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8) for simplicity, unless everyone would prefer to have control of their own point buy.

[brainface]

Never in the plato way! No! :(

dregs means i'm taking whatever class is left.

[Xathan]

Any room still left in this? if there is room, I'll join. All the fun classes are taken, but I can have fun with whatever - if no one cares, I'd like to pick up Wizard.

[Xeviat]

Xathan, supdadupa already seemed interested. I'll give him some time, then you can come in. If you're Wizard, then the one with the gray and wrinkled face is Cleric.

Oh, and it' won't be entirely combative; I'll try to motivate you and make the enemies interesting. Just don't expect a whole lot of time to go by RPing. If everyone ends up liking their characters a lot, we can do some IRC rping.

[Captain Obvious]

I notice there's no non-spell casters. Is this what you want (get in more playtesting)?

Also when you say 4-5 encounters per day, that's in-game days right? cause if that's IRL days then i don't have that much free time.

If we just want spellcasters then i guess i'll make a cleric. If we want a rounded party, i'll maybe do a fighter or rogue or something (barb?)

Also what is the starting gold?

[Xeviat]

Yes, no non-spell casters. Notice, though that the primary roles (warrior, expert, divine, arcane) are filled.

Xathan, it seems like you were late for the preliminary casting. It is going to be almost another month before I have time to truely start, so maybe someone will drop out by then.

Supa: if you want to be a wizard, that means brainface is the cleric. You cool with that brainface?

I'll have the full mana system up very soon (I'm writing the class pages right now). Once it's up, I'd like everyone who wants to play to read up on the system thouroughly.

And ... um ... starting gold will be the average GP from the  PHB starting gold tables.

[Captain Obvious]

I'll be the cleric unless brainface wants it. if he wants cleric then i'd be cool with wizard. Either way is fine.

[Túrin]

Hm, an ambitious project, going from level 1 to 20 in a six-player-PbP. I'll be keeping my eye on this. Good luck trying to find a night that seven people will be willing and available for a PbP.
In general, good luck on this.
Túrin

[CYMRO]

Can we say dick on these boards?

And what's dregs?

No, CYMRO, I'm thinking I'm going to use default array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8) for simplicity, unless everyone would prefer to have control of their own point buy.

Yes you can say dick.

Dregs are a nomadic desert people featured prominently in Terry Pratchett's Jingo.

Default array is fine with me.

[Xeviat]

Hm, an ambitious project, going from level 1 to 20 in a six-player-PbP. I'll be keeping my eye on this. Good luck trying to find a night that seven people will be willing and available for a PbP.
In general, good luck on this.
Túrin

It's going to take a lot of work. I'm most worried about visualizing a grid for everyone; I can keep my own board, but is it better to set up a table that I update or just to tell people grid codes? (Hobgoblin 3 moves from A1 to B7 and charges)

Currently, what night is the best for everyone? I'm free every weeknight from 6 pm till 10 pm (Pacific Daylight Savings Time) except Friday night, and I'm free Saturday night from whenever till whenever.