OOTS Rumor, Speculation and Otherwise General Discussion! *Spoiler HEAVY!* (you've been warned)

[Matt Larkin (author)]

V now has the most powerful arcane abilities in the world...

but they're always trumped by circumstance. How's that for selling your soul?

Honestly? It sounds about right. No deal with the devil (or in this case, devils) is every fully to your satisfaction.

Agreed. Poetic.

[Elemental_Elf]

New OOTS!

Reunions are so fun!

[Nomadic]

Elan is actually competent?! UP IS DOWN LEFT IS YELLOW!

[Elemental_Elf]

Elan is actually competent?! UP IS DOWN LEFT IS YELLOW!

So... Elan and V have switch places in the party! LEFT IS YELLOW INDEED!!!

[Elemental_Elf]

New OOTS

[Elemental_Elf]

I'd just like to note that in light of comic 643 and comic 647, V made the correct choice in selling his soul. The Fiends lied to V about Durkon being with the Azurite fleet because as evidenced in the 2 aforementioned comics, Durkon had already been gone for days.

If V had used their plan, the outcome would have ended with V dead and his family gone for ever. No matter what V did afterwards, he made the correct choice.

[Elemental_Elf]

OOTS 650 is up

[Ishmayl-Retired]

I see things ending very poorly with V.

[Elemental_Elf]

I see things ending very poorly with V.

I think Poorly is a gross understatement. If team Evil is in any way prepared (and they likely are, seeing as how Xykon has a Teevo) then V is utterly screwed. V could probably take Xykon down after an exhausting arcane duel but we can't forget that Redcloak, Monster-San and Tsukiko are most likely present.

[Loch Belthadd]

[Nomadic]

I see things ending very poorly with V.

I think Poorly is a gross understatement. If team Evil is in any way prepared (and they likely are, seeing as how Xykon has a Teevo) then V is utterly screwed. V could probably take Xykon down after an exhausting arcane duel but we can't forget that Redcloak, Monster-San and Tsukiko are most likely present.

V is still bound to 2 of the most powerful casters in existance. Xykon has been classed somewhere between level 21 and level 24 while redcloak is around 15 to 16 and tsukiko is low enough to not even rank a blip on an epic characters radar. As long as the bind holds V could very easily mop the floor with xykon, redclock, and the rest of their entire army.

[Elemental_Elf]

I see things ending very poorly with V.

I think Poorly is a gross understatement. If team Evil is in any way prepared (and they likely are, seeing as how Xykon has a Teevo) then V is utterly screwed. V could probably take Xykon down after an exhausting arcane duel but we can't forget that Redcloak, Monster-San and Tsukiko are most likely present.

V is still bound to 2 of the most powerful casters in existance. Xykon has been classed somewhere between level 21 and level 24 while redcloak is around 15 to 16 and tsukiko is low enough to not even rank a blip on an epic characters radar. As long as the bind holds V could very easily mop the floor with xykon, redclock, and the rest of their entire army.

No one said the other two spellcasters are that powerful, they are only the most powerful the 3 fiends have possession of (and they're a new operation). The most powerful of those 3 has already left. Now granted the other two are obviously epic level but probably in the low 20's. V himself is only 13-15th level.

If Team Evil has time to prepare, then they could wipe the floor with V. Remember, V has already expended many of his epic spells (all those Epic Teleportations and such) and epic levels provide no new spells per day. I'm not saying it would be easy but I think Team Evil could do it.

Also, let us not forget a Recurrent theme is that even with all the power in the world, happenstance and chance continue to make a mockery of V's new power. His own hubris will be his undoing.

[Nomadic]

I see things ending very poorly with V.

I think Poorly is a gross understatement. If team Evil is in any way prepared (and they likely are, seeing as how Xykon has a Teevo) then V is utterly screwed. V could probably take Xykon down after an exhausting arcane duel but we can't forget that Redcloak, Monster-San and Tsukiko are most likely present.

V is still bound to 2 of the most powerful casters in existance. Xykon has been classed somewhere between level 21 and level 24 while redcloak is around 15 to 16 and tsukiko is low enough to not even rank a blip on an epic characters radar. As long as the bind holds V could very easily mop the floor with xykon, redclock, and the rest of their entire army.

No one said the other two spellcasters are that powerful, they are only the most powerful the 3 fiends have possession of (and they're a new operation). The most powerful of those 3 has already left. Now granted the other two are obviously epic level but probably in the low 20's. V himself is only 13-15th level.

If Team Evil has time to prepare, then they could wipe the floor with V. Remember, V has already expended many of his epic spells (all those Epic Teleportations and such) and epic levels provide no new spells per day. I'm not saying it would be easy but I think Team Evil could do it.

Also, let us not forget a Recurrent theme is that even with all the power in the world, happenstance and chance continue to make a mockery of V's new power. His own hubris will be his undoing.

While the your statement regarding the theme is quite valid, I beg to differ on your other claims.

[spoiler=Important Quotes]

Orange Fiend: As a special limited-time offer, we propose for all three of us to splice your soul at the same time.
Purple Fiend: Binding the three most powerful evil mages whose soul we command to your own.
Yellow Fiend: Their epic spells should compliment your own spellcasting deficits most superbly.

Purple Fiend: The amount of raw energy from your four combined souls would dwarf that wielded by any mortal arcane spellcaster who has ever lived.
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Purple Fiend: And third, you won't get any XP from anything you defeat while you're spliced.
Yellow Fiend: Well, you could, technically, but your effective level would be so high that it's pretty unlikely.
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Sure you COULD argue that the orange guy was super-uber and the other two are just weak little level 20s but that seems a bit of a stretch. It is far more likely that while the orange may be the strongest, the other two aren't far behind him. As to the spell slots, V may have used a fair few but he has 3 chunks to use instead of the normal 1. Additionally, as has been shown, xykon isn't bright enough to prepare much and refuses to listen much to the only one who does (redcloak). The MitD is an unknown, but he's pretty much a melee beast with a WIS score comparable to Belkar's. V wouldn't have to directly fight him, and even if V was somehow only level 21 he would still be high enough that xykon would be the only threat with all the others could do being buff/heal him (and hope V doesn't spend a turn wiping them all out). So the fight is pretty much an unprepared, just past epic, Xykon, vs a fully ready high epic V (again even if those casters are only just past epic... 2 low epics and a level 15 would very easily waste Xykon).

[Elemental_Elf]

While the your statement regarding the theme is quite valid, I beg to differ on your other claims.

[spoiler=Important Quotes]

Orange Fiend: As a special limited-time offer, we propose for all three of us to splice your soul at the same time.
Purple Fiend: Binding the three most powerful evil mages whose soul we command to your own.
Yellow Fiend: Their epic spells should compliment your own spellcasting deficits most superbly.

Emphasis mine.

Let's not forget that Xykon took Dorukan down with ease, and he was one of the most powerful wizards in the world. There is no doubt V is powerful but a prepared force could take him down.

[Nomadic]

While the your statement regarding the theme is quite valid, I beg to differ on your other claims.

[spoiler=Important Quotes]

Orange Fiend: As a special limited-time offer, we propose for all three of us to splice your soul at the same time.
Purple Fiend: Binding the three most powerful evil mages whose soul we command to your own.
Yellow Fiend: Their epic spells should compliment your own spellcasting deficits most superbly.

Emphasis mine.

Let's not forget that Xykon took Dorukan down with ease, and he was one of the most powerful wizards in the world. There is no doubt V is powerful but a prepared force could take him down.

He did not, it almost totally drained him. Also recall that Soon nearly killed both him AND redcloak and would have if not for miko.

Oh and please reread what I posted, I updated it a bit to emphasize what I am getting at.