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Xathan

Yeah, it really is. I dunno, I was really pissed off after watching X3...but that's just me. I'll stop before I rant, it would be easy.
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CYMRO

Quote from: Xathan, Hobo AlchemistYeah, it really is. I dunno, I was really pissed off after watching X3...but that's just me. I'll stop before I rant, it would be easy.


Everyone I know who saw it has been disappointed.
I will save my money and see Superman Returns instead.

Ishmayl-Retired

Yeah brainface, that's pretty much what I thought... but don't forget that it stars Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, who will be featured in every single scene whether he's necessary or not!!
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I can't go on with this, I've been disappointed enough just thinking about it.  I just wish Singer had stuck around with X-Men.  I mean, sure, a great Superman movie will be awesome, but I would have just rather seen another awesome X-Men movie to wrap things up.
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The Fall and Rise of Vandal Savage!

Elven Doritos

I just remembered the Avengers story arc about the religious cultists called the Triune Understanding.

Ah... good times.
Oh, how we danced and we swallowed the night
For it was all ripe for dreaming
Oh, how we danced away all of the lights
We've always been out of our minds
-Tom Waits, Rain Dogs

SDragon

yes, i did mean the spiderman clone saga. i will admit, it came out much worse then it could have, but i still say it had plenty of potential. the biggest problem with comics in the 90s was that the creators expected hip new costume designs to carry the titles. from superman red/blue, to scarlet spider, and from armored daredevil to the whole exoskeleton batman.

that said, the idea of "hey, lets bring back that clone of spidey" has more potential then "hey, why dont we kill off superman?"
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Elven Doritos

The costume changes were only the symptom of a bigger problem for 90's comics, which you touched upon: The Rise of the Gimmick.

The Death of Superman.
The Rise, Fall, and Redemption of Parallax.
The countless costume changes of all heroes.
When Bane broke the Bat.
Did I mention the Death of Superman?
Hypertime.
Spiderman's "Identity Crisis".
The Onslaught crossover.
The X-Men "bubble"- the countless X-related spinoffs, no matter how inane (any grouping of mutants could expect at least a 20-issue run).
And, of course, the Death of Superman.

I know I'm forgetting countless more. Let's not forget variant covers galore and other marketing gimmicks that were usually cheesy or inane.
Oh, how we danced and we swallowed the night
For it was all ripe for dreaming
Oh, how we danced away all of the lights
We've always been out of our minds
-Tom Waits, Rain Dogs

SDragon

not to mention the expansion movements of both JL and the avengers.

but do you truely think gimmicks were strictly a phenomenon from the 90s? claremont and byrd had the x-men leaving earth in the 80s, neil adams had green arrow and green lantern making political statements in the 70s, and stan lee had flawed superheroes in the 60s.
 the fact that gimmicks were used wasnt the problem, its how poorly the gimmicks were used. the gimmicks used in the 90s were used more as marketing devices then story devices. death of superman was something that could only be used as a marketing device, but the clone saga had potential to be used as a story device.
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Opening The Dark SRD
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PHB 3.5
DMG 3.5
MM 3.5
MM2
MM5
Ebberon Campaign Setting
Legends of the Samurai
Aztecs: Empire of the Dying Sun
Encyclopaedia Divine: Shamans
D20 Modern

GURPS:

GURPS Lite 3e

Other Systems:

Marvel Universe RPG
MURPG Guide to the X-Men
MURPG Guide to the Hulk and the Avengers
Battle-Scarred Veterans Go Hiking
Champions Worldwide

MISC:

Dungeon Master for Dummies
Dragon Magazine, issues #340, #341, and #343[/spoiler][spoiler=The Ninth Cabbage]  \@/
[/spoiler][spoiler=AKA]
SDragon1984
SDragon1984- the S is for Penguin
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Corn
Eggplant
Walrus
SpaceCowboy
Elfy
LizardKing
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Halfling Fritos
Rorschach Fritos
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Elven Doritos

Notice it was the "Rise of the Gimmick", not the "Birth of the Gimmick". There were plenty of gimmicks in previous decades, of course. But as you said, the skill behind the 90's gimmicks was-- lacking. The fact that you could expect every year several high-end crossovers and sales gimmicks was the key cause for the fall of the comics industry (and the increased availability of substitute mediums).
Oh, how we danced and we swallowed the night
For it was all ripe for dreaming
Oh, how we danced away all of the lights
We've always been out of our minds
-Tom Waits, Rain Dogs

CYMRO

New Flash series today, as well as the second isue of Shadowpact, and the last Sgt. Rock.

Ishmayl-Retired

A lot of people like the current Daredevil run; I'm not reading it, but if any of you have an opinion on it, I'd like to know.
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CYMRO

A couple of the employees over at Heroes are trying to lure me into reading a new Cpt. America series.  But I am strong.  I am resisting.

SDragon

i havent read any new comics in quite awhile, now...


is it true that wolverine now has a sword? and if so, then why?
pleasepleasePLEASE dont tell me its because the sword can cut through anything....
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Fiendspawn
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Commandant-General of the Honor Guard in Service of Nonsensical Awards.
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[/spoiler][spoiler=Books I Own]
D&D/d20:
PHB 3.5
DMG 3.5
MM 3.5
MM2
MM5
Ebberon Campaign Setting
Legends of the Samurai
Aztecs: Empire of the Dying Sun
Encyclopaedia Divine: Shamans
D20 Modern

GURPS:

GURPS Lite 3e

Other Systems:

Marvel Universe RPG
MURPG Guide to the X-Men
MURPG Guide to the Hulk and the Avengers
Battle-Scarred Veterans Go Hiking
Champions Worldwide

MISC:

Dungeon Master for Dummies
Dragon Magazine, issues #340, #341, and #343[/spoiler][spoiler=The Ninth Cabbage]  \@/
[/spoiler][spoiler=AKA]
SDragon1984
SDragon1984- the S is for Penguin
Ona'Envalya
Corn
Eggplant
Walrus
SpaceCowboy
Elfy
LizardKing
LK
Halfling Fritos
Rorschach Fritos
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beejazz

Well... I'm not a huge comic book fan (at least as franchises go) but I've always loved Batman. And Batman the animated series was, IMHO, the best American animation EVER. I also have some fond memories of the reaper.

Besides that, Hellboy has always been fun.The whole "reluctant dark messiah" thing is always fun.

I despise superman for some reason, and toyman, as a villain, could have been done better (so many toy themed villains in batman did so much better). Even though I disliked Superman from an early age, his death didn't really do much for me.
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What?
England.
Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?