Arga discussion thread.

[Superfluous Crow]

They don't seem as rough or bestial as in their first appaerance?
Also, I wouldn't call refer to them as beastmen. Too many associations with that name.  

[O Senhor Leetz]

They don't seem as rough or bestial as in their first appaerance?
Also, I wouldn't call refer to them as beastmen. Too many associations with that name.  

really? I thought my revamped doodle made them much more bestial than before. what about the writing makes them seem less rough? And I agree with the beastmen, that can be axed.

Forum Question would my doodles look more, I dunno, fantastic, if I gave them a parchment tone instead of greyscale?

[Superfluous Crow]

Oh, the picture looks bestial enough.
But they seem to be way more civilized now, they have gone over to having a benevolent god, and in general don't seem to be as aggressive or xenophobic or dark as before.
The bells are cool though, and the church sounds pretty awe-inspiring.

[O Senhor Leetz]

hmmm, well I don't mind them being somewhat civilized, I should probably add a couple more segments about them being temperamental. I was also going to put in about about Vorr law: first offense means one horn cut off, second offense the other horn, third offense, execution.

was also thinking that the Vorr believed thunder and lightning came from Dravorr forging a new bell - thunder from the bell, lightning from the forge-sparks. -oooh! maybe all the bells in his temple would suspended over beds of hot coals keeping them red-hot so they also sparked when they are rung.

[Ghostman]

maybe all the bells in his temple would suspended over beds of hot coals keeping them red-hot so they also sparked when they are rung.

Wouldn't that also make them dent and deformed very easily?

[O Senhor Leetz]

They're magic bells :)

[Superfluous Crow]

Ah, magic indeed makes everything easier :P
Except there is a slight issue with you just having decided to remove their magical steelcraft? I don't see the Vorr studying Thuerma with the dwarves or in Tezzeret. Of course they could be artifacts of old.
But the temple still sounds awesome in the original sense of the word. And Vorr law sounds nice. Can imagine the hornless being shunned.

[O Senhor Leetz]

Ah, magic indeed makes everything easier :P
Except there is a slight issue with you just having decided to remove their magical steelcraft? I don't see the Vorr studying Thuerma with the dwarves or in Tezzeret. Of course they could be artifacts of old.
But the temple still sounds awesome in the original sense of the word. And Vorr law sounds nice. Can imagine the hornless being shunned.

yeah, not sure about Vorr magics yet. I was thinking that they think any magic that doesn't come from their god is weak and worthless. And I thought the laws added a nice savage/just contrast.

And I too really like the visual I'm getting from their temple. A hundred softly glowing bells, everything cast in a reddish light and heat shimmers.

[O Senhor Leetz]

new race idea:

a trollish/orcish/ogrish race. Basically a brute, "dumb" race. I was milling through the Forgotten Realms book the other day and came across this picture

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/FR_ART/People/Arrk.jpg

and thought that not only did it look Arga-y, but having a brutish race would be neat. I think that they would also work well being a somewhat amphibious, aquatic race. The Trollbone Coast would be a good homeland I think. There could have been creatures called trolls in past ages, but they have all died out, and X race are they're smaller, slightly more intelligent cousins. thoughts?

Or they could come from the Claws and be decent sailors of large, crude ships. Or the Verdant Coast, because it's jungle-y. All just thoughts.

[Superfluous Crow]

I like it and don't like it at the same time. Trollish beings are cool, and I can only imagine you'd do something even cooler with them, but they might be leaning a bit up against Vorr territory in the whole big, strong category.
Perhaps if you basically made them real nasty and disgusting they'd have an (obscure) niche for themselves.
Hmm, I'm not sure they should be sailors. Having them be amphibious swamp/jungle/coast creatures who live in water but fear or respect the open ocean sounds better to me.

[O Senhor Leetz]

I like it and don't like it at the same time. Trollish beings are cool, and I can only imagine you'd do something even cooler with them, but they might be leaning a bit up against Vorr territory in the whole big, strong category.
Perhaps if you basically made them real nasty and disgusting they'd have an (obscure) niche for themselves.
Hmm, I'm not sure they should be sailors. Having them be amphibious swamp/jungle/coast creatures who live in water but fear or respect the open ocean sounds better to me.

yeah, there are quite a few pitfalls when it comes to new races. One option would be to "shrink" the Vorr. Make them only slightly larger than the Anthos (humans) but still be stronger. Since I seemed to subliminally civilized the Vorr (which I like more I think) I feel like it would be o.k. to have another "giant" race.

 Should that mean I should have a "small" race? Or am I suffering from DnD addiction?

[Superfluous Crow]

No, you don't need a small race. And you could always make the "trolls" human-sized yet stronger and tougher. A stringy mass of muscle and fiber. Although I don't think there is something wrong with having them be large.
But you definitely shouldn't shrink the Vorr.

[O Senhor Leetz]

No, you don't need a small race. And you could always make the "trolls" human-sized yet stronger and tougher. A stringy mass of muscle and fiber. Although I don't think there is something wrong with having them be large.
But you definitely shouldn't shrink the Vorr.

ok. no Vorr shrinking. Like a mentioned, I really liked the FR troll in the earlier link, so maybe the "trolls" will be larger, but hunched over with a devious posture.

[O Senhor Leetz]

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[O Senhor Leetz]

Since I've been repeatedly side-tracked this weekend by things like bars, I haven't gotten around to writing about the Phaen-born. I have, however, managed to upload the art for the Phaen-born. This is Fire-Eyed Pheltos, a potential character in Arga.