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:ninja1:  or  :yarr: ? You decide!

Well, well, Raelifin; you put up the poll and I didn't think your ninjas would be willing to be openly humiliated like this.
Ninjas, are in fact, one of the least talked about in Japanese history. Why, you might ask? Maybe it is because there were only a few of them hired by any of the local shoguns. Yeah, not a lot of PR. Ninjas, although they are loners, are bound to the lords they serve. You can't kick ass if you are some lame-ass-skinny-japanese-knight-bound-ninja. Pirates don't serve anybody except for their captain who serves no one except for themselves. They take what they want -Ã, both types of booty included - and they get to wear some very sporty eyepatches.
Let's look at the weapons they use. If a shuriken was hurled into my body byÃ, a wimpy ninja, I'm pretty sureÃ, I would live.Ã, Those things are so tiny and crappy any pirate could break them with their toes and eat them. Pirates have swords; not fancy or large, just regular swords that you can slash and slice into pillgrims with. Pirates also have guns. How can't you kick ass wielding an oversized pistol, swinging from your ship and pumping lead bullets into a silly ninja. I also don't think that a ninja can dodge a cannon ball.
Ninjas sneak around in the dark (you can only sneak around in the dark so long until you find a rapist) and sneak up on people when they are least expecting it. Pirates areÃ, much more cheap. They take every advanatge they can. For heaven's sake, they put eye-patches on so that when the day comes they'll have better sight than anybody else. They are also the dirtiest scoundrels on the sea when it comes to fighting. They'll gang up on little ships, they'll outnumber other ships, they'll bite and kick people in the balls; coolest guys ever. They backstab, spit, and find anyway to win.
Ninjas also don't have ships. Pirates can go anywhere and pick up worldly hotties. Ninjas have to go find jobs. Pirates make their own jobs.
Pirates would win because we get to rape and pillage, while the pussy ninjas sneak around in the dark. Ninjas don't know how to cut loose. Pirates party and do chicks while the ninjas are sitting at home sharpening their little weapons. I think I'm going to start my own pirates religion after this post. Pirates are the coolest and they could kick any ninja's ass.
Pirates: 1 Ninjas: 0

Sorry Raelifin, but by the usual way of these tings.  We are discussing hollywood pirates and hollywood ninjas, I vote pirates from them.  Now, historically, I'd much rather be a ninja, beacause they kick total ass over pirates.  but seeing as we're talking stereotypical images, i'll vote Aargh!, and go with pirates.

Ninjas are a niche profession, but pirates are ubiquitous!

the average pirate is a henchman that the leader doesnt mind sending to his slaughter.Ã,   (CR 1-2)
the average ninja is a hightrained individual who could probably take an entire pirate ship.  (CR 5+)

ninjas: +1

Quote from: daggerhartthe average pirate is a henchman that the leader doesnt mind sending to his slaughter.Ã,  (CR 1-2)
the average ninja is a hightrained individual who could probably take an entire pirate ship. (CR 5+)

ninjas: +1

I guess it depends upon your worldview.

The average pirate is a member of a compact, whose fellows will scour the globe to avenge his death.
The average ninja dies alone and forgotten, just a piece of meat to his masters.

death is the natural conclusion to life.
a ninja doesn't care how he dies... only how many people he takes with him.. :)

(yes, it does depend on worldview)  
but pirates dont avenge every pirate... or they wouldnt have time for pirating..
they just dock and hire more.

I can't deny the power of ninjas.Ã,  Nor can I deny that a true ninja is something that should truly be feared.Ã,  Their action, however, are not always honorable.

Of course, pirates are generally free spirits.Ã,  They do what they want, when they want.Ã,  I respect that, but I do not respect that they do it at the expense of others.

My vote goes with Chuck Norris.Ã,  He does what he wants, when he wants because no one would dare try to stop him.Ã,  If anyone did try to stop him, he could deal with them quickly and would not hurt them very badly.Ã,  This situation does not often arise, though, as Chuck Norris is too honorable too do anything that would make people want to appose him in that way.

I can't believe I just presented a logical arguement for why Chuck Norris is better than ninjas and pirates.Ã,  What is wrong with me?Ã,  What is wrong with us?

If Chuck is so honorable, why is he still schlocking third rate exercise equipment on late night tv?

MacGyver could use a banana peel, paper clip, and used tissue to take out CN anyday.

Quote from: CYMROIf Chuck is so honorable, why is he still schlocking third rate exercise equipment on late night tv? MacGyver could use a banana peel, paper clip, and used tissue to take out CN anyday.

Everyone needs money!

Of course MacGyver/Richard Dean Anderson would win!Ã,  But he was not an option.

Quote from: black jackOf course MacGyver/Richard Dean Anderson would win!Ã,  But he was not an option.

... seriously, thats why hes not on the poll.Ã,  what, between star-gates and paper clips no one has a chance (CR ~35 ?).

Quote from: daggerhart

Quote from: black jackOf course MacGyver/Richard Dean Anderson would win!Ã,  But he was not an option.

Maybe Divine Rank 5........

Pah, using ducttape, a shoe and some turnips MacGyver could create an over-deity and raise himself to divine rank 20.

Quote from: RaelifinPah, using ducttape, a shoe and some turnips MacGyver could create an over-deity and raise himself to divine rank 20.

But he is too modest to be DR20.Ã,  That is part of his charm.

Richard Dean Anderson could also take over numerous worlds with his stargate.

Infinity = Richard Dean Anderson