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The State of the CBG: An open invitation to your comments

Started by Nomadic, October 19, 2010, 12:23:50 AM

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Steerpike

Elf, you've banished any lingering worries I had about the Thank You button, so for my part, I'm quite convinced it would be a good feature, and wouldn't cause unpleasantness, especially in the form you presented above.

I certainly didn't mean to kick up a fuss - my initial objection wasn't based on a strong opposition to the idea, more of a vague unease, and your posts have persuaded me that that unease was silly.

Elven Doritos

Quote from: E_EVeterans of the forum do not need a Thank You mechanic because they already know the community IS thankful for their contributions, regardless of whether their thread receives a large number of replies or not. But new people? They do not have that knowledge. When they sit, day after day with just a handful of replies, how do you think they feel? Unwanted? Foolish? Depressed?

I imagine if their mental state is that tied into an online message board they just joined, there may be some better questions to be asking than whether or not their work is being properly appreciated. Sometimes the community runs slower than usual. Sometimes there is an inequity in enthusiasm between older and newer members' settings. As an aside, addressing a point from earlier posts: I don't think looking at setting views is a very sensible way to judge a setting's popularity, since a setting author's own visits to his page count to the total. Meaning a high page count could just mean that the author and a few other folks regularly visit the page

QuoteA thank you mechanic is nothing more than encouragement for those people. They build people's confidences up and persuade them to continue to write, continue to post, continue to forge on ahead.
Regardless of how I feel, I understand some people do not like the idea of the mechanic because they see it as a deterrent to the style of criticism/support they desire. However, just as there are different ways to learn, there are different ways to provide criticism and support.[/quote]The Thank You button is nothing more than a tool in our collective arsenal that can be used to obtain and encourage new posters. [/quote]

Unless they came to the community expecting thorough and in-depth commentary about their settings and find unqualified approval either less than helpful or even irksome.

Just my thoughts, and I want to clarify that I'm not trying to be uncivil or antagonistic.
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TankSpill

Quote from: Elven Doritos
QuoteRegardless of how I feel, I understand some people do not like the idea of the mechanic because they see it as a deterrent to the style of criticism/support they desire. However, just as there are different ways to learn, there are different ways to provide criticism and support.

What about a Thank-You or Like button that had an optional message to add a 140-character message as to why the thing was liked?  This may seem counter-intuitive, as "if someone were going to type a message, wouldn't they have just hit "Reply?" for which I answer, "Maybe?"  However, while it wouldn't hurt to have such an option, it could be beneficial.  Imagine someone just wanted to hit "Like," and then they see, "Would you like to type a quick 140-character message as to why you like this thread?"  They start typing, realize they have a lot to say, and Bam! it's a real response.  It could be a set-up like this which would replace the "Quick Reply" button:


Elemental_Elf

Quote from: TankSpill
Quote from: Elven Doritos
QuoteRegardless of how I feel, I understand some people do not like the idea of the mechanic because they see it as a deterrent to the style of criticism/support they desire. However, just as there are different ways to learn, there are different ways to provide criticism and support.

What about a Thank-You or Like button that had an optional message to add a 140-character message as to why the thing was liked?  This may seem counter-intuitive, as "if someone were going to type a message, wouldn't they have just hit "Reply?" for which I answer, "Maybe?"  However, while it wouldn't hurt to have such an option, it could be beneficial.  Imagine someone just wanted to hit "Like," and then they see, "Would you like to type a quick 140-character message as to why you like this thread?"  They start typing, realize they have a lot to say, and Bam! it's a real response.  It could be a set-up like this which would replace the "Quick Reply" button:



I really like that idea!

Nomadic

I am neither for nor against this idea I am simply getting all of your feedback. However, I will point out that the cartographer's guild has used this very effectively over the years (and theirs is a publicly viewable one). I wouldn't be too worried about it causing any damage to the site if it were implemented. I think it's more an issue of whether you think it adds something to The CBG.

Elemental_Elf

I am against a Reputation meter, that is not necessary at all. But the basic mechanic they have for thanking then being lured into posting is quite nice.

LD

Just a note- if some extra code is implemented; care should be taken that it doesn't increase page load times... that could be detrimental in an amount outweighted to the potential benefit.

Elemental_Elf

I have not noticed any lengthy page loading times... Have other experienced this problem?

Nomadic

Quote from: Light DragonJust a note- if some extra code is implemented; care should be taken that it doesn't increase page load times... that could be detrimental in an amount outweighted to the potential benefit.

You would need ALOT of PHP to do that. Look at how fast the pages on this site load (relatively speaking anyhow). They're heavily PHP run and there's hundreds of scripts interacting to all bring you a page in a fraction of a second. A couple kilobytes of additional data won't do much to increase that load time.

Mason

Quote from: E_EI am against a Reputation meter, that is not necessary at all. But the basic mechanic they have for thanking then being lured into posting is quite nice.


  I would say I am against a Rep meter as well. I do like the posting thing we have...Don't know what it is called...based on the number of posts you have your in....moat cailin or hall of kings etc. I think that, in and of itself is a sort of reputation.

Elemental_Elf

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Quote from: E_EI am against a Reputation meter, that is not necessary at all. But the basic mechanic they have for thanking then being lured into posting is quite nice.


  I would say I am against a Rep meter as well. I do like the posting thing we have...Don't know what it is called...based on the number of posts you have your in....moat cailin or hall of kings etc. I think that, in and of itself is a sort of reputation.


We currently only have a Post Count, which is then categorized into levels, each with its own unique name. :)

Matt Larkin (author)

Speaking of which, perhaps it's time to rotate the rankings. I've sat at the Leavetaking Stone for long enough it deserves some bad pun.

Ideas for new rankings? Maybe the planets in order of size? How many ranks do we use again?
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Stargate525

Quote from: PhoenixSpeaking of which, perhaps it's time to rotate the rankings. I've sat at the Leavetaking Stone for long enough it deserves some bad pun.

Ideas for new rankings? Maybe the planets in order of size? How many ranks do we use again?
Agreed. I also think it's time to move the postcount upwards for rankings. I know a lot of us are completely maxed out.
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Elemental_Elf

Yes we need more bips to attain and new rank names.

Ghostman

Quote from: PhoenixIdeas for new rankings? Maybe the planets in order of size?
The named planets and moons of the solar system should provide a good number of titles to start with. Beyond that, you could turn to named stars, galaxies, nebulae...
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