The Campaign Builder's Guild

Quote from: PhoenixThe issue is over-general page names. The Minotaur pages actually exists. It's one of Lath's pages, so I guess it might be for Discworld, but I can't tell for sure from the text, so I don't want to move it anywhere yet.

I feel pretty comfortable calling it a Discworld page, in part because of the general style/subject, and in part because of the datestamp (Lath's been doing Discworld pretty exclusively these days, right? That page was made Thursday.)

On another subject, this "over-general page names" issue is the reason I always err on the side of using my parenthetical suffix on page names, even if I don't think another person is going to want to use an identically-named page. You really never know.

I will chime in and say that in my opinion, so-called "over-general page names" really are not a problem at all. If everyone is using {{L}} properly (and I think everyone is) then there is no disruption to anyone to do a page move. If you want to use the same concept that someone has already created a page about, just move the page. Some people may feel a certain resilience about doing this, for fear of messing up someone else's links, but the whole idea of {{L}} is that it is expressly designed so that it won't, so fear not. If you think a concept is unique to your setting, boldly claim it! ;)

ya dats mine... some of the race pages where the first i did, and was still learning, i dont think i have done back and fixed them all..

Pym, I have brought back this thread for your viewing pleasure!

Have fun with putting your setting on the wiki! Feel free to ask anything.

It wasn't much fun and I still haven't succeeded. The coding is unlike others I've seen before, so I'm sort of lost.

I also followed the dance, but nothing's going my way. I'm gonna try more things tomorrow, I might just be too tired.

Ok so, again this morning I play around the wiki to add my setting on there and I can't figure out how to put a link to my setting on the Main Wiki Page, like all the others. I've added my project name to the List of Templates already so I really don't know what I'm doing wrong...

Oh so... from what I can understand, it has to be manually added by sparkle? On the main list I mean.

Quote from: Magnus PymOh so... from what I can understand, it has to be manually added by sparkle? On the main list I mean.

Yes. Only a couple of people have permission to edit the main page of the Wiki.

Oh I see

I do have another question though.

I want to put a link to my history page and I use this, of course;
{{L|Page to link to|Link title (optional)}}
ok now, I don't EXACTLY use that, here it is;
{{L|http://www.thecbg.org/wiki/index.php/History%28Primeval%29|History}}

I save change, link shows a [1] which I can click, that I do;

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Tada!

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here, it seems fairly simple in the explanation...

By the way the page is

http://www.thecbg.org/wiki/index.php/History%28Primeval%29

and exists, has also been filled.

Ok found the bug, but now another question arises.

I do {{L|History}} only and it brings me to the disambiguation page, with histories of other settings.

I'm not sure what I did wrong, I put {{Setting|Primeval}} on my history page.

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Quote from: The_Weave05I do have another question: The word "Minotaur" unintentionally links someone else's entry for "Minotaur." Is there a way to specify that I wish for mine to link somewhere else?

In this situation, we need to set up an autodisambiguator, just like on every page with a name multiple people want to use (see also: Magic). It's not hard, so I'll give you instructions so you can do it yourself. (If you have trouble, I'll be glad to help out.)

First, go to the existing Minotaur page. It appears to be part of Lath's Discworld project, so we are going to move the page from "Minotaur" to "Minotaur (Discworld)". Since Lath has been using the {{L}} style links, he will experience no disruption; all his links will go to the same page even though that page has been moved. (Go to Minotaur, click "move" at the top, to the right of the "edit" button, and rock out.)

Now, go back to the Minotaur page again. Since we just moved it to Minotaur (Discworld), the Minotaur page is now an automatic redirect to Minotaur (Discworld), but that's not what we want. (If the page redirects you away, click at the top where it says "redirected from Minotaur", and it will let you go back and stay.) Now, replace the redirect contents of Minotaur with the single template {{AutoDisambiguator}}. That should be the only content on the page. Now, when anybody goes to the Minotaur page, the AutoDisambiguator template will automatically produce a list of Minotaur (Discworld), Minotaur (Shattered Spectrum), and any and all other pages that are Minotaur (Whatever), and ask you which one you want to go to. Unless, of course, you got there from a link from another page in the wiki that has the {{Setting}} template, because that makes it clear which Minotaur the link meant.

Now, create your minotaur page, only call it Minotaur (Shattered Spectrum). And you're done!

If you want to admire your handiwork, test to see that your links work, that Lath's links still do as well, and that the regular Minotaur page lists both your version and Lath's.

Does this help at all?

well theres no History page... theres only History (setting) pages. does this work the same?

Bleh so difficult. Let's just say I've seen much friendlier wikis.

I'm going to keep trying some things.

EDIT: I was able to put my History version on the History Page (the search page I guess), but my Main page doesnt directly link to my history version, still the damn history search page.

I fixed it for you. You need the setting template before the link on the page. The easiest thing to do is to create a template for your setting which includes the setting template.

I can show you how to do this if you like.

As a further explanation, I added this quick code to the Template:Primeval page. If you wanted to use this, just include
 {{Primeval}} at the top each Primeval page.

This is the template code:

 {{Setting|Primeval}}
<!-- Primeval Template to be included on all Primeval pages -->__NOEDITSECTION__ __NOTOC__
<div style="border: 2px solid #0b6c2d; background-color: #1bbf55; padding: 3px;">
<center>
<span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.5em; color: #0b6c2d">Primeval</span>
<div style="width: 100%;">{{L|Primeval|Overview}} | {{L|Culture}} | {{L|Places}} | {{L|History}} | {{L|Fantasy}}</div>
</center>
</div>
[[Category:Primeval]]


The span tags could be replaced with an image, if desired, for a fancier look. This creates a universal navigation for all Primeval pages, automatically includes the {{Setting|Primeval}} so you don't have to, and turns off TOC and and edit buttons to look nicer. Setting it up to float left or right would be easy if you prefer that nav style.

I'm really grateful you've done it for me, but at the same time I'm the kind of guy who learns by doing it, not by being told. Which is why over the internet, or phone, I often have difficulties with pretty much anything new. I always manage though.

Anyways... I have new questions now that I haven't been able to see for myself.

You created the Template:Primeval page for me... right? And basically just put your code in it and crafted a quick "template/banner" for me.

If this is right, then INSIDE that "template/banner", you've put a code that, whenever I put {{Setting|Primeval}} on a page, it will trigger this "template/banner" that you've done?

If this is correct, what's the point of using {{Primeval}} at all and where do I put the {{Setting|Primeval}}? At the end of each edit?

EDIT: What's with this?

Quote<!-- Primeval Template to be included on all Primeval pages -->__NOEDITSECTION__ __NOTOC__

It puts the __NOTOC__ on all pages if I decide to use this code on all my pages?