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#30
March 19, 2006, 03:14:16 AM
I have updated the religion section a bit.  This is only the first of many revisions that we will be seeing there.  I added a small amount of flavor/detail.  All of the changes are only in the top section, before the entry on Bodin.  Check it out.

More to come.  Thank you to everyone who is following the development.  You give me the motivation I need to keep going.

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#31
March 19, 2006, 12:50:18 PM
I have done another update to the religion section.  I added quite a bit to the Bodin section.  I added more to each paragraph, giving it much more flavor and detail.  Also, I added much more detail to the last paragraph, concerning the corrupt Emperor.

Ninja D!

#32
March 19, 2006, 01:55:38 PM
There has been yet another update to the religion section.  This time, the area just under The Saints has been updated, along with the entries for Saint Arthur and Saint Susannah.

Ninja D!

#33
March 19, 2006, 03:26:53 PM
I now present you with...the roughest rough draft map you will ever see!  Behold, the Great Empire of Un.



...aww, crap...anyone know a better place to store this that won't shrink it down?

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#34
March 20, 2006, 04:22:55 AM
Quote from: Black Jack DaveySure, Un has some political intrigue.  However, since the government comes from the religion, there is very little of it.  I never did say that things were perfect in Un.  I only said that things are stable.

Also, Bodin has only helped when the government of Un was on the verge of being corrupted.  Eventually, when I have more of Un's history documented, you will be able to see many cases where Bodin has done nothing for the Great Empire.

There is a threat to the people of Un that will account for much of the adventuring that takes place in my campaigns.  That is the threat of the goblinoids that are centralized in the Borderland Mountains to the far south.
That sounds like it will make for an interesting conflict.  And don't feel too pressured to throw in more political intrigue than you are comfortable with.  External conflict can also work well in a campaign when the campaign is geared towards that sort of thing.

If you want to emphasize the conflict with the goblinoids more than any internal strife, I'd suggest making the goblinoid threat something that seems very ominous and very immediate; perhap the goblinoids have just pulled off a daring and devastating attack or some such.  If everyone in Un knows that these goblinoids are a serious danger, that gives them even more incentive to put aside whatever differences they may have.
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I really like so far. How much do the saints relate to the Dark Tower - as soon as I saw that they were related, I skipped over, since I haven't finished the series and don't want to accidentally spoil anything. Also, I'd like to know more about races (unless I overlooked that) - what races, humanoid or otherwise, can be found in the Empire of Un?
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#36
March 20, 2006, 02:26:36 PM
lol, look at the little map!

The whole religous conflict sounds very good. Is it internal or external conflict>?
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March 20, 2006, 02:36:16 PM
I think Photobucket only shrinks the image if you are using up a decent amount of space on your account. You could try deleting other images and then uploading it again.

Deviant Art and Sheezy Art are available too, although I've never used them.

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#38
March 20, 2006, 03:33:01 PM
Quote from: Xathan, Last Of The FallenI really like so far. How much do the saints relate to the Dark Tower - as soon as I saw that they were related, I skipped over, since I haven't finished the series and don't want to accidentally spoil anything. Also, I'd like to know more about races (unless I overlooked that) - what races, humanoid or otherwise, can be found in the Empire of Un?
For the most part, the Saints are only the same in name.  The only ways that they are similar in are very broad: Roland is a drifter, Jacob is young, Edward gives up the life he had been leading to travel with Roland.  These similarities are not there to make it like the Dark Tower, they just make for a good story.

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#39
March 20, 2006, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: Wixmanlol, look at the little map!

The whole religous conflict sounds very good. Is it internal or external conflict>?
Within the religion of Un, there are different people that believe different things.  Some of those things are very strange, and some of them bother the people that don't believe in them.  It is similar in many respects to real world Christianity.

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#40
March 20, 2006, 03:40:45 PM
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Quote from: Black Jack DaveySure, Un has some political intrigue.  However, since the government comes from the religion, there is very little of it.  I never did say that things were perfect in Un.  I only said that things are stable.

Also, Bodin has only helped when the government of Un was on the verge of being corrupted.  Eventually, when I have more of Un's history documented, you will be able to see many cases where Bodin has done nothing for the Great Empire.

There is a threat to the people of Un that will account for much of the adventuring that takes place in my campaigns.  That is the threat of the goblinoids that are centralized in the Borderland Mountains to the far south.
That sounds like it will make for an interesting conflict.  And don't feel too pressured to throw in more political intrigue than you are comfortable with.  External conflict can also work well in a campaign when the campaign is geared towards that sort of thing.

If you want to emphasize the conflict with the goblinoids more than any internal strife, I'd suggest making the goblinoid threat something that seems very ominous and very immediate; perhap the goblinoids have just pulled off a daring and devastating attack or some such.  If everyone in Un knows that these goblinoids are a serious danger, that gives them even more incentive to put aside whatever differences they may have.

The goblinoids are really only considered a serious threat in the southern parts of Un.  All across the land there are different problems in different places.  I never did say that Un was perfectly peaceful, only that it is stable and there are not any particularly large conflicts within the government.  There will always be some things in a human society.

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#41
March 20, 2006, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: Black Jack DaveyI now present you with...the roughest rough draft map you will ever see!  Behold, the Great Empire of Un.



...aww, crap...anyone know a better place to store this that won't shrink it down?

Open a website with Angelfire (it is free), upload all your art and other goodies to it.
I think the free service is 20-25 MB of space.

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#42
March 20, 2006, 08:32:22 PM
I really like the new story about the corrupt emperor.  Adding the part about the mace that Bodin left behind turned it around completely.  Now, instead of feeling that Bodin will intervene if things get really bad, I get the impression that Bodin expects mortals to take their destiny into their own hands.  Very nicely done; between that added layer to the story of Bodin and the campaign map, Un is starting to look like a very interesting place.
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#43
March 21, 2006, 12:02:11 AM
Quote from: RaelifinI think Photobucket only shrinks the image if you are using up a decent amount of space on your account. You could try deleting other images and then uploading it again.

Deviant Art and Sheezy Art are available too, although I've never used them.
Quote from: CYMROOpen a website with Angelfire (it is free), upload all your art and other goodies to it.
I think the free service is 20-25 MB of space.

After asking my question, I thought of a couple of ways to show the picture full size, I just haven't gotten around to doing it yet.  Creating an account with a service such as Angelfire was one idea.  Also, PhotoBucket shrank my picture down even thought I only have seven pictures on there, and it has loaded others just fine.

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Until I do have the extra time, I think that the small picture at least give you a vague idea of what the Great Empire of Un looks like.  This map was only a very rough draft to begin with.  The mountain range at the edge, and in ths more southern position of the map is the Borderland Mountains.  The mountain range higher up would be the Sooth Mountains.

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#44
March 21, 2006, 12:05:55 AM
Quote from: Epic_MeepoI really like the new story about the corrupt emperor.  Adding the part about the mace that Bodin left behind turned it around completely.  Now, instead of feeling that Bodin will intervene if things get really bad, I get the impression that Bodin expects mortals to take their destiny into their own hands.  Very nicely done; between that added layer to the story of Bodin and the campaign map, Un is starting to look like a very interesting place.
I'm glad I was able to take away the idea that Bodin will always step in to save the day.  That is not how things work in my world, and I didn't want to give that impression.  I'm glad to see that you read and enjoyed the updated version of the religion.  More detail is coming for the rest of the Saints as well, but that may take a while.  Elder Scrolls IV comes out tomarrow, I'm going to a show at a local bar on Wednesday and Friday, Saturday, and Sunday I will be gone at an anime convention (Anime Detour).

I thought that the story of the corrupt Emperor in particular could use more detail, and that is why I added what I did. I think that giving names also helped that story seem more real and more a part of the world.
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