The Campaign Builder's Guild

Apparently what I said offended some people.  So, here is an explination of sorts.  Bascially, these are things I would not ordinarily say at risk of offending someone.  So why did I say them?  Some of them needed to get said.  I do not want to just never say anything and let stuff go on, that's not the way I work.  Some of these things that I felt had to be said really almost couldn't be said without offending someone, plain and simple.

Perhaps I should address each of my main points from above in a bit of a more civil manner.

Dice pools.  I don't like them.  I also don't really see the purpose of the dice pools thread.  Like some of the other threads on the A New Way to Play board, it has no stated purpose, it just jumps right in.  I can guess that these are splits from other threads, but to an outsider, they're just random threads that start in media res.

While it is well and good that members would devote themselves to building a new setting, I personally feel that to an outsider, it is the most vauge new system I have ever seen, and I have no clue if it will be fun, or how I can use it.  What are it's rules supposed to address?  Every other variant/new system I've ever seen has some kind of purpose behind it, Arcana Unearthed is high magic. Iron Heroes is action fantasy.  d20 BESM is anime.  Our current system has squat to this effect, plain and simple.

As for the bit about research, I was kind of frustrated when people started questioning my research on the Japanese Weapons thread, when anyone else who could have spent five minutes on Wikipedia, or at the library, or even watching the History Channel could have come up with what I had.  I feel especially for something like that (and as I stated), people need to abandon their preconceptions and look at things with an open mind.  While I'd like to assume that everyone did when they went to the thread, and I know that not everyone is going to do research, I can't help but feel that my work is going to waste when someone doesn't want to try and look at something with an open mind, and instead revert to what they think they know about something.

As for new mechanics, it seems that every single setting we make at the CBG uses new mechanics of one kind or another.  To me, it almost feels that the entire purpose of some settings is to, and I mean this in the best possible way, show off new mechanics.  It gets a little tiring when I have to read an entirely new magic system or what have you for every setting I read on the boards.  I'm not saying that new mechanics are bad, its just that I feel they are a little overused here.

As for the last comment, about no one announcing they are leaving, that was probably the only hurtful thing that I may have said.  I apologize, but it is really how I feel.  People here seem to care more when someone takes a few weeks off from the site than when someone moves six thousand miles (~10,000 km) from home.

I don't think anything, aside from when I mentioned it above was a personal attack, but if it was construed that way, I apologize.  Generally, I try to be polite as possible, but things do get under my skin like they do for everyone else.  And I always feel that people should speak their minds, and should be able to get things that they don't like changed.

Again, I've tried not to offend anyone, but I just feel that sometimes things like this needs to be said.  If everyone who as an objection never speaks up, then when will anything ever get changed?

QuoteAs for the bit about research, I was kind of frustrated when people started questioning my research on the Japanese Weapons thread, when anyone else who could have spent five minutes on Wikipedia, or at the library, or even watching the History Channel could have come up with what I had.

least[/i]. I'm sorry if any of my comments contributed to that impression.

As for all your other complaints, i kinda assume everything here is done simply for kicks, with little or no practical value. ;)

Also: I am beginning to think that stating a complaint prefixed with "DO NOT WANT", where the offending party can hear, is perhaps lacking in tact, or something. I mean, if the guy who created grimlocks ever reads this thread, we're all going to feel like asses.

QuoteAs for new mechanics, it seems that every single setting we make at the CBG uses new mechanics of one kind or another. To me, it almost feels that the entire purpose of some settings is to, and I mean this in the best possible way, show off new mechanics. It gets a little tiring when I have to read an entirely new magic system or what have you for every setting I read on the boards. I'm not saying that new mechanics are bad, its just that I feel they are a little overused here.

Not overused, not unless you can say in the same breath too imaginative.  
Some settings are designed around a new mechanic or two.  It is a common enough way to develop a setting:  first change the suck-ass mechanics with one's own brilliant mechanics, then imagine a world where such are the norm, rather than trying to shoehorn your changes into someoneelse's setting, that one was never satisfied with in the first place.
I expect mechanical change in every new setting, just seems natural.

QuoteWhile it is well and good that members would devote themselves to building a new setting, I personally feel that to an outsider, it is the most vauge new system I have ever seen, and I have no clue if it will be fun, or how I can use it. What are it's rules supposed to address? Every other variant/new system I've ever seen has some kind of purpose behind it, Arcana Unearthed is high magic. Iron Heroes is action fantasy. d20 BESM is anime. Our current system has squat to this effect, plain and simple.

It is a system being created, it is vague because it is incomplete.  It is also a slow process, because sometimes real life rears its ugly head and must be dealt with before time can be alotted to this project.  

That said,

DO NOT WANT barbarians to be a class.  :soap: Barbarian from whose perspective?  Stupidest class ever.  

Quote from: brainfaceI mean, if the guy who created grimlocks ever reads this thread, we're all going to feel like asses.

But we will still point and laugh at him.

DO NOT WANT Windows Vista to exist.

Quote from: PONTIFEX BRASSICUS CYMRO XIIIDO NOT WANT Windows Vista to exist.

another[/i] Windows OS.  

I'm switching over to Linux next time I buy a new laptop...

Currently, Toshiba's propritery power managment system doesn't work at all in Linux, so running off of a battery is not going to work.  I think I'll go for another brand.  

Perhaps one with a non-integrated graphics card.  Scratch that... definantly one with a non-integrated graphics card.  Oh, and a bigger hard drive.  40 GB is too small.  Don't need a CD or DVD burner... I just blew $200 on a high-end external from Sony.

Linux is the way to go... seriously, there are plenty of distributions that feel enough like Windows that there's barely even a learning curve.

Quote from: IshmaylLinux is the way to go... seriously, there are plenty of distributions that feel enough like Windows that there's barely even a learning curve.

I'm well aware of that, it's just that on a Toshiba laptop, you cannot use OS-based power managment, you are forced to use software-based power managment.  And unfortunately, Toshiba doesn't want to provide a version for Linux.  So, for now, I'm stuck with WinXP.

Quote from: Xathan, the Archbishop of CabbageThatâ,¬,,¢s all. I want this thread to be fun, so have fun with it. Donâ,¬,,¢t feel these words were directed at you in particular, whoever you are: instead, they are meant for the community as a whole and should be taken as such.

In keeping with the principles of accountability, I am obligated to disagree.  My comments were probably the harshest on the forum, and while they were spoken from belief, and I do hold to them, this isn't the place for such things.  Sorry for the awkward "ooh, just a little edgy, Angel," atmosphere.

The last thing I'd want is for any bad blood between anyone on this here forum.  Give me plagues, pestilence, frogs flies and the French, but never take my CBG!!!

I will beat -     I will kick the serious out of you, chillen!

 DO NOT WANT people to take the stuff they read here seriously!

 

I started this thread to vent a little about pet peeves.  I knew someone might get serious here, but that's okay - sometimes people need to vent about things that aren't trivial.  But taking things you read here seriously, personally and offensively is officially not allowed!  Rant all you like, but no ranting back!  

I don't even know if that's possible, but as the OP I'm declaring that it's a rule!  I can't reach through this monitor to throttle anyone, but... but...  I can yell at the neighbors!  No, I can't do that.  They'd smack me.

Let me just say this - if this thing starts getting heavy again, the weight of my displeasure will be felt by the neighbors cat.

That cat is going to wish he had never been born.

Thusly, the ultimate paradox.  If you said to not take anything seriously on this thread, how can we take what you just said seriously?  :D

I had an English teacher who stapled cats to trees once.





Yeeeeeaaaaaah...

Hmmf, I think my next two boxes will probably be OSX and Linux. But that won't be until after our company sells out and I get the big bucks for it.

Meanwhile, I'm still working on a perfectly sound W2K box. It has served me well.

An infinite game is inherently paradoxical; it's laughter arises from the players mortality, as they can only play when they know they will not conclude the game.  

We are all infinite players.

This thread contains a paradox precisely because unlike many of my threads - or even many threads in general - it is a move in the infinite game.

DO NOT WANT a life without paradox!

Can you even achieve a life without paradox?  It seems that we're always either too stupid or too smart to avoid it.