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Knight Writer

#135
June 24, 2011, 01:48:25 PM
I too really liked the game.  My biggest complaint about the game is the auto target and I have yet been able to figure out how to switch targets with it.

Ninja D!

#136
June 24, 2011, 02:17:41 PM
Yeah, that was a bit of trouble.

The voiceovers were so bad they were good.

EDIT: And welcome to the CBG.

Nomadic

#137
June 24, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
I may just be the weird one here but I never had any issue with getting invested in my character. It is my very nature that if my character has no backstory I will end up making one for them and weaving it into the game. If something is in the way of it working I've never had any issue ignoring it or altering it to fit. Sometimes you have to look outside the game for the story in sandbox situations. For alot of people this breaks immersion but for me personally I have never broken immersion for myself by doing so.

SA

#138
June 24, 2011, 11:20:37 PM
You're on an Elder Scrolls thread, so I think it's safe to assume the consensus is with you. ;)

Ninja D!

#139
June 25, 2011, 01:48:19 AM
I don't always, or even usually have a story for characters in this sort of game. That's probably mostly because I don't think the setting is really all that great.

You can stick to your own character better if you don't feel obligated to do the main quest or any certain quest lines. Of course, this was much easier to do in a game like Morrowind because there we're so few options. Fallout 3 had, probably, the fewest options but the setting and situation from the beginning sets you on a certain path, anyway.

Nomadic

#140
November 11, 2011, 02:12:03 AM
Been playing it for a bit and thought I might show you all how beautiful this game is. I keep stopping to just enjoy the scenery, it's phenomenal. Enjoy some early screenshots.

[spoiler=Large Image Warning]



[/spoiler]

Superfluous Crow

#141
November 11, 2011, 02:51:36 AM
Gah, why can't I see ANY of the images on this site anymore? I just get a weird placeholder image of a frog stuck in a gelatinous cube.
Currently...
Writing: Broken Verge v. 207
Reading: the Black Sea: a History by Charles King
Watching: Farscape and Arrested Development

Nomadic

#142
November 11, 2011, 07:10:25 AM Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 08:06:12 AM by Nomadic
Looks like some dumb thing imageshack is doing. I registered thecbg.org with them so hopefully imageshack images should start working again on here again soon.

[spoiler=Warning this contains awesome... oh and Skyrim spoilers]Anyhow this game totally blows both Oblivion and Morrowind away IMO. The first thing I noticed is that it is alot grander than either of the past games. Everything seems larger with more distance between it. It takes longer to walk between towns than it did in Oblivion. I don't mind though as the scenery is absolutely beautiful and it has much more varied terrain. Where Oblivion was forest, forest, mountain, slightly different forest I have only really started getting into the main quest and I've already run into: plains, tundra, pine forest, autumn forest (with pretty orange leaves), rivers, an icy marsh, mountain pass, frozen lakes, and several other things. On top of that the weather keeps the scenery interesting even in the same location varying from light rain drizzles to howling wind, to driving blizzards and fog banks (and of course sunny days too). The sky is really great and I especially love the night sky (I've seen an aurora already and it was awesome). Overall in terms of scenery the game is amazing.

Character models and voices are much improved too. Long gone is the talking monkey faces of Oblivion or the six whole voice actors for everything. There's tons of variation in voices and the character models look really sleek (Bethesda has obviously improved on their modelling techniques since Fallout New Vegas, which IMO had good models in its own right). Character interaction is smoother too, while there's still a touch of the awkward pathfinding that the older games had it isn't as bad. And more importantly I haven't yet heard a single awkward conversation about mudcrabs. Conversation is much more fluid and more often dwells on recent events and local activities. People also react to your actions alot more. I love using the voice in towns because people stop and go "holy crap it's true! you're dragonborn!" and other such comments.

On that note I love using the shouts the first shout you unlock is great once you max the power on it and send bad guys flying across the room to slam into a wall. The magic system in general is great with the destruction spells acting like element throwers where you can hold down the button and unleash a steady stream of hell on your opponents. Melee is much "heavier", you feel the impacts of your hits and it really feels like you did some damage. It also seems to be ever so slightly sped up from the slower combat of Oblivion. Ranged is still... ranged really, it feels similar to how it was before which is fine with me as I liked it how it was. Blocking is still around with the added bonus that your shield acts like its own separate item instead of a modification to your sword like in the older games. You still use it to block attacks but instead of just stopping everything it soaks up the hit (a hard enough hit will push a shield aside allowing a followup attack to get through) plus you can bash with it which staggers your opponent and opens them up for a strike. So in the end combat is a bit more tactical than it was in Oblivion. I've noticed having the high ground is more important than before and I have to carefully time my blocks and strikes to take advantage of openings. The shouts only add to the tactics. So far I have maxed my first shout which is basically force push with your voice (if I fully charge up the shout I can send a couple guys in a narrow cone flying 15 feet through the air) and unlocked shouts for one that throws me forward really quickly (force sprint) and is good for closing distance with ranged enemies and another that turns me ethereal (can't take or deal damage) which is a good panic button.

Basically it's the beauty of Oblivion upgraded and combined with the story quality of Morrowind upgraded. Not only did they take the most important of the best from each of the two previous games but IMO they made it better. Morrowind fans will be happy to know that the terrain is more varied, the quests are more interesting, the story more convincing, and the races more distinct. Meanwhile those who liked Oblivion will love to hear that the graphics are even better, the landscape breathtaking, the physics are great (the gravity from jumping and such is still a little light but there's no more hitting a guy with an axe and watching his body soar 15 feet through the air), and the spells have real oomph to them. Oh yea and the dragons are freaking terrifying to fight and very satisfying to defeat and since they're not all scripted to quests you'll sometimes come to a town and find people running in fear. So you get to go and help the guards save the town (and afterwards bask in the glory when the townsfolk look on you in awe and comment on the return of the dragonborn).

I've only just started and I'm already in love. I keep running into constant little things here and there that are improved and there are things that are still the same but overall they seem to be minor things that don't really matter much to me. Great game, great fun, it's 5am and I should really get a few hours of sleep. :)

Oh yea... I ran into a traveling bard who sung me a song of the dragonborn for 25 gold. I think I'll name him Vreeg...[/spoiler]

Elemental_Elf

#143
November 11, 2011, 04:01:24 PM
[spoiler]This game is what Oblivion SHOULD have been #IamaMorrowindphile[/spoiler]

SA

#144
November 11, 2011, 10:11:52 PM
Seconded.
[spoiler=ALSO (spoiler)]WEREWOLVES![/spoiler]

Superfluous Crow

#145
November 11, 2011, 10:14:08 PM
Wait? Does Skyrim have
[spoiler]werewolves?![/spoiler]
or are you referring to
[spoiler]Solstheim in Morrowind?[/spoiler]
Currently...
Writing: Broken Verge v. 207
Reading: the Black Sea: a History by Charles King
Watching: Farscape and Arrested Development

Xathan

#146
November 11, 2011, 10:23:10 PM
I'm just about done installing the game. This is the first game I have ever played in the Elder Scrolls series, and wasn't planning on buying until my friend, who was playing, said he was running around with an axe in one hand and shooting lightning out of the other. SOLD!

Will post my perspective as a newcomer to the series at some point after playing for a bit.
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Nomadic

#147
November 11, 2011, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: Xathan Of Many Worlds
I'm just about done installing the game. This is the first game I have ever played in the Elder Scrolls series, and wasn't planning on buying until my friend, who was playing, said he was running around with an axe in one hand and shooting lightning out of the other. SOLD!

Will post my perspective as a newcomer to the series at some point after playing for a bit.

- Put on black mage's robes
- Dual wield lightning spells
- Play Emperor Palpatine

Superfluous Crow

#148
November 12, 2011, 01:27:24 AM Last Edit: November 12, 2011, 01:35:45 AM by Superfluous Crow
How viable is a Nord mage? :p

EDIT: I really like the new character models. (at least the images I have seen)

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Writing: Broken Verge v. 207
Reading: the Black Sea: a History by Charles King
Watching: Farscape and Arrested Development

SabrWolf

#149
November 12, 2011, 01:32:33 AM
Quote from: Superfluous Crow
How viable is a Nord mage? :p.

Totally. Your racial abilities won't give you much of an edge, and you won't be the best caster at first, but you'll eventually get to be awesome!
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