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Magnus Pym

#15
November 09, 2011, 06:59:20 PM
Quote from: GhostmanPella was a real city in ancient Greece. And not just any old city - it was the capital of the Macedonian Greeks, famed for certain monarch called Alexander.

I thought I had seen it somewhere there, too.

O Senhor Leetz

#16
November 10, 2011, 06:05:24 AM
Quote from: Magnus Pym
Quote from: GhostmanPella was a real city in ancient Greece. And not just any old city - it was the capital of the Macedonian Greeks, famed for certain monarch called Alexander.
I thought I had seen it somewhere there, too.
Oh yeah, I definately stole that, fo sho.
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O Senhor Leetz

#17
November 10, 2011, 07:39:12 AM
also, a short list of my more favorite names I've "created" for Arga. I don't expect a paragraph for each, but if something seems extra good, or extra bad, well, you know.

Aspergos, Myrmenox, the Pellanosi, the Volanosi, Pen Perdan, Salsurel, Voy Vasa.
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Kindling

#18
November 15, 2011, 10:26:05 AM Last Edit: November 15, 2011, 10:29:47 AM by Kindling
Okay, so, over in my thread about Larr Nesh I've come up with some names for the noble clans and houses using an unusual method for me - random generators!

I'm very pleased with how the names of the Lacedonian Houses came out, they're all named from a site that offers to randomly generate fantasy tarot cards, and they're called. . .

House of the Seven of Skulls
House of the Three of Chains
House of the Six of Gates
House of the Arrow
House of the Mute Hero
House of the Five of Cubes
House of the Mask
House of the Priestess of Bones
House of the Eight of Lanterns
House of the Woman
House of the Ten of Clouds
House of the Nine of Vaults

The Neshoi great clans, however, are a bit more typical-fantasy-name-ish, and while I don't exactly think they're terrible, they could be improved, so I'd welcome any suggestions on what to do with them. They are. . .

Clan Dahel
Clan Ezana
Clan Haniandani
Clan Krasanei
Clan Tercopha
Clan Ucivat
Clan Vonern
Clan Zananiesas

EDIT: Also, I'm thinking of calling the "ancients" I've referred to in that thread Icebloods. Is that too cheesy?
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Xathan

#19
November 15, 2011, 11:58:01 AM
I'll agree that the clan names need something added - the house names are wonderfully evocative and have me wanting more, but the clan names are just kind of...there. I want to know more about the House of the Three Chains, but nothing in Clan Zanalesas makes me want to know more about them from name alone.

Without knowing anything about these clans beyond name, what I'd suggest is perhaps compound words added to the names - it retains that tribal feel but gives more. Clan Zananiesas the Redborn, or the Unbound, or the Cleftriders...things along those lines.
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#20
November 15, 2011, 12:18:26 PM
Since the only canon piece of Neshoi language we have is Larr Nesh, the name of the country itself, we should probably model the clan names based on that.
The most striking feature of Larr Nesh is of course that it is split into two words and this could well be applied with good effect to your clans.
E.g. Clan Krasa Nei, Clan Zanan Niesas, Clan Hani Andani to take the most obvious ones.
I'm not sure this a perfect fix, but does keep the whole naming paradigm a bit more coherent.

EDIT: For some variety, only apply the above to 1/3-2/3 of the clan names.
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Kindling

#21
November 15, 2011, 12:26:27 PM Last Edit: November 15, 2011, 12:34:36 PM by Kindling
Quote from: Xathan Of Many Worlds
Without knowing anything about these clans beyond name, what I'd suggest is perhaps compound words added to the names - it retains that tribal feel but gives more. Clan Zananiesas the Redborn, or the Unbound, or the Cleftriders...things along those lines.

It's a good suggestion but I quite liked the simplicity of the clan names as opposed to the more long-winded house names. Of course, alternatively, I could just scrap the proper names for the clans and just have, as per your examples, things like Clan Redborn, Clan Unbound, Clan Cleftrider. . . I'll certainly consider it.

Quote from: Superfluous Crow
Since the only canon piece of Neshoi language we have is Larr Nesh, the name of the country itself, we should probably model the clan names based on that.
The most striking feature of Larr Nesh is of course that it is split into two words and this could well be applied with good effect to your clans.
E.g. Clan Krasa Nei, Clan Zanan Niesas, Clan Hani Andani to take the most obvious ones.
I'm not sure this a perfect fix, but does keep the whole naming paradigm a bit more coherent.

EDIT: For some variety, only apply the above to 1/3-2/3 of the clan names.

I like this, how do these seem? I'm still not happy with some, but some are definitely improved:

Clan Dah El
Clan Eza Na
Clan Hani Andani
Clan Krasa Nei
Clan Terco Ha
Clan Uc Ivat
Clan Von Ruun
Clan Zana Niesas

EDIT: Or, to keep some as a single world, maybe Dahel, Ezana and Vonern could stay the same while the others split?
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Superfluous Crow

#22
November 15, 2011, 12:46:53 PM
Maybe Clan Dael, Doul or Daul instead of Dahel.
Ezana sounds more like a personal name and even in its unconcatenated form Eza makes the whole thing sound a bit feminine for a barbaric clan. Maybe Ezeg/Ezm/Ezul Na? Some variation thereof?
I know Hani Andani was my idea, but I'd just point out the rhyming sound it has. You can decide whether it is a good thing or not.
Terco sounds a little odd alone. Maybe Terec?
Uc is good, Ivac less so. This should perhaps be one of the names that is only one word long, but I can't come up with a good way to mix the two words.
Von sounds a little too german, but Ruun looks and sounds awesome!

That's all the feedback I can come up with at the moment!
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Kindling

#23
November 15, 2011, 12:52:09 PM Last Edit: November 15, 2011, 02:12:03 PM by Kindling
Cool, good stuff. Personally I like Dahel, though, so I think I'll keep it as-is. And how about dropping the I of the Hani in Hani Adani to get rid of the rhyme? New list:

Clan Dahel
Clan Ezeg Na
Clan Han Andani
Clan Krasa Nei
Clan Terec Ha
Clan Uc Vath
Clan Vonern
Clan Zana Niesas

EDIT: I also now need a ridiculous amount of names for Lacedonians (given names, that is, I already have the names of their noble houses)... Any suggestions? I'm thinking maybe ancient-greek-sounding, as Lacedon is only one letter away from Macedon, but I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise. By a ridiculous amount I mean about a hundred, give or take.
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Ghostman

#24
November 15, 2011, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: Kindling
EDIT: I also now need a ridiculous amount of names for Lacedonians (given names, that is, I already have the names of their noble houses)... Any suggestions? I'm thinking maybe ancient-greek-sounding, as Lacedon is only one letter away from Macedon, but I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise. By a ridiculous amount I mean about a hundred, give or take.
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Magnus Pym

#25
November 15, 2011, 06:24:55 PM
If anyone can help me out: I'm trying to find a name for my half beast half human demonic races for Plaguelands.

For now, I have three; Lion-men, Hyena-men and Elephant-men. Of course I plan on adding to this list with crocodile, rhinoceros, giraffe and all sorts of other cool animals I thought of, but the focus is on the three I mentioned first.

Hyena-men; Hyenafolk, Hyene (means hyena in french)
Lion-men; Lionfolk, Lyon (heh... imaginative huh?)
Elephant-men; Ephant

Except for, perhaps, the Ephant I don`t find these names very... intriguing. Anyone`s got a better idea?

Kindling

#26
November 15, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Elephant-men: Loxodes, Mammuthans, Pachydons, Tuskers, Tuskfolk, Stompers
Lion-men: Felids, Leonids, Panthrax, Aslath, Roarfolk
Hyena-men: Hyaenids, Cursorials, Aardfolk, Crocutans, Runners
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Magnus Pym

#27
November 15, 2011, 07:09:03 PM
Tuskers is very good, stolen! Hihi :)

I'm going to look the others in more details as I'm not sure what the link might be between some of the words and their physical representation, but thanks a bunch Kindling!

Kindling

#28
November 15, 2011, 07:18:25 PM
Quote from: Magnus Pym
I'm not sure what the link might be between some of the words and their physical representation

Loxodes is from Loxodonta, a genus of elephant. Mammuthans is from Mammutha, another. Pachydons is from Pachydermata, a "now invalid" order that elephants were once classed under.

Felids, from feline. Leonids, from Leo (meaning lion). Panthrax, from the genus Panthera, to which lions belong. Aslath, from Aslan, the lion from CS Lewis's Narnia.

Cursorials, from the biological term Cursorial, meaning a being specifically adapted to run, which hyenas are. Aardfolk, from the aardwolf, a smaller animal related to the hyena. Crocutans, from the genera Crocuta, to which the spotted/laughing hyena belongs (crocuta crocuta)
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Kindling

#29
November 15, 2011, 09:09:43 PM
Also, that list of names looks fantastic, Ghostman! Just the kind of thing I was after. I hope you won't object if I use some for my Lacedonian nobles?
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