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Raelifin

#345
May 17, 2013, 09:54:03 PM
Response to Dalashinn has been posted. We'll respond to Llitul after the retcon is confirmed.

Polycarp

#346
May 17, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
So at what building can my leader research this "retcon" spell I keep hearing about?
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LD

#347
May 17, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
I thought the retcon was confirmed- kobolds didn't lose ShinyFriendship Stair.

LD

#348
May 17, 2013, 10:49:24 PM
>> I think it'd be neat to, say, get a map of the deep, say, a year ago.

I thought pretty much everything of note in MD and LD was controlled by the Duregar empire, which somehow fell? And upperdeep probably had Disa Grimhammer, and everyone else's starting position in one region each.

LD

#349
May 18, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
Letter to Watchers up.

Raelifin

#350
May 18, 2013, 12:48:28 PM Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 03:06:09 PM by Raelifin
NEW SOCIAL NETWORK ANALYSIS


[note=Comments]The ring near Llitul means my program says she sends a decent amount of mail to herself. ;)

The overbrain is in a seriously bad spot, relationship wise.

If you remove the dead parties and the NPCs, like Gloomsong and the Overbrain, then the graph keeps its roughly linear shape (mentioned last time I did this).

War with the undead and hostilities with Llitul has driven the cleversmarts more towards the Dwer-Nocae alliance. Time will tell what happens there.

The Duergar are in a really weird spot, being pushed away from the Abject and Llitul, but also being pulled towards the Kirr. They're the major exception to the linearity of the graph. Who knows, perhaps the global politics will yield three major factions.

The Glow have remained *remarkably* neutral. Llitul was in a similar spot a few turns ago, so we'll see whether they stay in the neutral camp or whether they get into a conflict. The same could be said of the watchers.

There are probably conflicts that I haven't added to this map due to lack of public information about them. For instance, there's indications of conflict between the legion and the dwerim.[/note]

(A) = Abject
(B) = Bloodlord's Kirr
(C) = Cleversmarts
(D) = Dwer
(E) = Exalted Llitul with other personas and titles
(F) = Fungoids
(G) = Grolhund
(K) = Kafer's Duergar
(L) = Legio I Draco
(M) = Mithril Tower Elves (before Saerid's corruption)
(N) = Nocae
(O) = Overbrain (including Saersensine)
(R) = Red Tide
(S) = Succubi
(U) = Undead
(V) = Viara Gloomsong
(W) = Watchers
(X) = Misc NPCs

Black = Moderate communication
Blue = Strong communication
Red = Hostile
Green = Known Allies
Purple = Violence + Parleys (i.e. complex)
Brown = Moderate Communication + Parleys (likely allied)
Cyan = Strong communication + Parleys (likely allied)

sparkletwist

#352
May 18, 2013, 01:45:45 PM
Very interesting. :D

The Succubi have parleyed with Llitul on multiple occasions, but for some reason the logs never got posted. So that line should probably be cyan. :)

Xathan

#353
May 18, 2013, 02:18:20 PM
I love those social maps. :)

Watchers do have a conflict with the Overbrain, but none with me. :) I set that brain up but good. :)
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Raelifin

#354
May 18, 2013, 03:07:43 PM
Updated.

Let me know if there are any other errors/oversights.

LD

#355
May 18, 2013, 04:05:06 PM
I don't see a war line between watchers and overbrain. Don't know if they're still at war, but they've flipped dungeons.

I enjoy your relationship map. :)

Also, I suppose this is general knowledge now: Grolhund actually sacked my dungeon once :P. He just rolled in and reaped. That's what led to the parley.

Raelifin

#356
May 18, 2013, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: Light Dragon
I don't see a war line between watchers and overbrain. Don't know if they're still at war, but they've flipped dungeons.

I enjoy your relationship map. :)

Also, I suppose this is general knowledge now: Grolhund actually sacked my dungeon once :P. He just rolled in and reaped. That's what led to the parley.

Yeah, I know about Grolhund's attack. I wasn't sure if you were still enemies because of the parley. That's why you guys get a purple bond.

You may have to refresh the page to get the updated image (with O-W red line). Sometimes browsers cache images to reload pages quicker.

LD

#357
May 18, 2013, 07:00:49 PM
"The Orc Wrathpriest Vruthor, apprentice of Llitul (slain by Cave Beetles)"
That sounds so ignoble.

Re: Raelifin- refreshing a few times worked. Thank you.

Raelifin

#358
May 18, 2013, 07:17:57 PM Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 07:21:42 PM by Raelifin
The Orc Wrathpriest Vruthor, apprentice of Llitul (slain by tripping on a rock (hey, these caves are dark!))

The Orc Wrathpriest Vruthor, apprentice of Llitul (slain by chronic high blood pressure)

Xathan

#359
May 19, 2013, 01:59:21 AM
All messages that were impacted by the retcon have been updated/removed. (Sorry Shee-Ra. :P)
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