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The Republic Reborn II: Reborn Again [Orders Due Jan 31]

Started by Polycarp, October 08, 2014, 06:54:05 PM

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LD

[ic=Letter from Vittorio to DeVinti]
I dictate this and hope that this missive reaches you soundly.

I welcome the invitation to bring the council to me, but my disease is a catching one--my heir, Leonardo, caught it first and passed it to me. If you would all risk, then so be it, you would be welcomed, but I would not want to endanger your lives.

Rodrigo's conduct does not surprise me. He is hotheaded, often too hotheaded and impulsive. He may even support some endeavors that I would not pursue due to their risk. I do however, have faith in the substance of his message if not in his delivery.

As for a rapproachment, if you do wish that, then I am a fair man and I recognize your interest and investment in the Schola. Your interest in the militia, however, was a power grab. If that interest is returned to the Interior- then I will recognize your olive branch and will have Rodrigo withdraw his strident opposition to your ploy.

-VM
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[ic=To Sanguineaus from Rodrigo]
I insist and underly in my endeavours and suggestions- when transgressors who looted the treasury are found, let us use their bodies for war rather than striking them down. If they must be sentenced first, then so be it, but let the punishment be not death, but service to the popolo.
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LD

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As an intra-turn order can I identify places to loot internally in Rome of those who pledged loyalty to the false Pope? Locations and how well guarded the locations happen to be.
If so, Rodrigo will pass this information on to the Inner Council for purposes of seizing the land and all therein. If the lands are churches and they are abandoned, suggest looting them and giving the loot to Victor's churches. And having a little unrecorded "fall off" and into Rome's coffers (mostly the untraceable coins and silver).
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Polycarp

Quote from: Light DragonAs an intra-turn order can I identify places to loot internally in Rome of those who pledged loyalty to the false Pope? Locations and how well guarded the locations happen to be.

All the places and entities in Latium that have openly pledged allegiance to one Pope or another are listed in the last update.  While there are doubtless many citizens, clergymen, and perhaps even nobles currently in Rome who are sympathetic to Alexander, if they aren't on that list, they haven't made any such pledge (at least, not publicly).  Presumably most pro-Alexander people in Rome are aware that the Senate is quite pro-Victor, and those that disagree with that stance who have a lot to lose aren't foolish enough to go about proclaiming their own loyalty.

You could simply raid people you suspect of having Alexandrine allegiance, though keep in mind that seizure of a citizen's property without the blessing of the Senate is illegal, and just because a church's leaders are pro-Alexander does not mean that Victor wants the church to be plundered.  Church property, even in the hands of the servants of the false pope, is still church property, and unless you specifically have the blessing of one Pope or another, both are likely to oppose its theft (though whether they actually do anything about it depends more on politics).

I should note that the Senate itself has not yet passed any declaration establishing its own allegiance, which is why it's not currently on that update list.  As far as outside parties are concerned, Rome is still undeclared, though obviously anyone with a brain is aware of the senate's recent pro-imperial tendency.
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"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aurelius

Magnus Pym

[ic=Letter to Vittorio Manzinni]Senator Manzinni,
If I recall, it was Barsolomeus first, and then Basile who brought forth my name to be commander of a law enforcement force. Unfortunately, the debate on this issue petered out with no laws ratified. My apologies, it may be that you've misunderstood me, or my motives. My interest is not in the Schola or things military, yet both are important for a higher purpose. Do you not yearn for a great Rome? A thriving city once again? If Romans keep fighting Romans, we are doomed. Crime must be eradicated, so we have to do more than just inviting magistarius Rogerius. Building a courthouse is an important step further. A clearer mandate for both law enforcement officers and the courthouse must be established. We have the capacity to do more than we do now. We are certainly capable of continuing our correspondence on the subject of law enforcement.

That is, if Rodrigo abstains from council meetings. That position is not hereditary. It can cause the current sitting members a lot of trouble, not least yourself.

Senator Hugo De Vinti[/ic]

Nomadic

Hey TMG, was wondering if I could get a yay or nay on sismondii's request that the consul of the exterior tell oddone frangipani to back off on antium/nettuno or face a war with rome (see my earlier post).

TheMeanestGuest

I'll attempt to have things up today - sorry I haven't already, last week was midterms etc. - but I am currently on vacation, so I can't promise that it will be usual Basile quality.
Let the scholar be dragged by the hook.

Nomadic

Quote from: TheMeanestGuest
I'll attempt to have things up today - sorry I haven't already, last week was midterms etc. - but I am currently on vacation, so I can't promise that it will be usual Basile quality.

All good man, just wasn't sure if you'd missed it.

TheMeanestGuest

I'd actually really appreciate another extension if possible, Polycarp. This just happens to be moving too quickly to mesh with my current schedule.

Sorry!
Let the scholar be dragged by the hook.

Magnus Pym

I concur, an extension would be preferable. I have a set of orders that I can use if need be, but I'd prefer some of the more crucial details be roleplayed in the Senate/Lesser Council.

Polycarp

Do you have a suggested date for this extension?
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Llum

[ooc=Orders Spring 1160]
-Pay 1 WP to get 100 men, bring them to help out the Consuls.
-Try and dig up dirt on the anti-Pope (Alexander) & Oddone Fangipani
-Continue to publish "Consola" pamphletes, while also looking for better poets. Also have these letters sent to areas around Rome.
-Continue to try and track down information about "Britto"
-Send some spies to infiltrate the Basilica San Lorenzo, and learn more about the copying of "Britto"
-Have my agents continue to accumulate information on the cities already infiltrated. Better understanding of defenses, defenders, any dirt on their lords/mayors/etc, find any sympathisers with Rome or uncover some plots or scandals. If my agents could begin to grow a network of locals that would be ideal.
-See how cheaply the land inside Rome is being sold, and if there are any good deals.
-Keep feelers out for any agricultural land being sold in Latium.

Up to 3 WP is allowed to be spent on these orders (not counting the 1WP for 100 men)
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Steerpike

#131
[ic=A Letter to Vittorio Manzinni]Esteemed Senator Manzinni,

I appreciate the candour of your advice. Senator Hugo de Vinti seems a strangely contradictory person to me: at once eager to improve the city of Rome through the growth of its infrastructure, and equally eager to risk all in dangerous military exploits. Still, he commands considerable resources – though not quite as impressive as your own enterprises, it cannot be disputed that he is a man of means. So long as he confines his efforts to the construction of a courthouse and is truthful in his claim to leave actual judgments to the Senate of Rome, I cannot in good conscience refuse his proposition. It will be made clear, however, that in no wise does the establishment of a courthouse grant Senator de Vinti any added judicial powers, nor does it diminish the position of the Consul of the Interior, nor yet the authority of the Senate as a whole.

I wish also to speak briefly of your son, Rodrigo. Doubtless, other senators will have complained to you of his somewhat brash manner. I write with the opposite sentiment. Though Rodrigo possesses a certain impetuous spirit and has much to learn of Roman politics – here is one inclined to the choleric humour! – I found his passion refreshing and his audacity both amusing and welcome. He has already nettled a few senators and shaken up the deliberations of our august body, but such an influx of high spirits and energy is not always undesirable, for all the complaints it inevitably precipitates. In truth, he reminds me of myself in my youth, untutored and intemperate, clashing often with my father. It warms my heart that you enjoy a more trusting relationship with your son than my sire did with me. While I pray for your relief from the troublesome affliction that keeps you from the Senate floor (Hippocrates, incidentally, believed that gout was caused by the settling of phlegm in the joins, an opinion shared by Galen; may I suggest infusions of colchicum autumnale, and a vigorous bleeding at least once a year?), Rodrigo has made a worthy albeit brazen proxy!

On a quite different matter altogether, I have heard it rumoured that you possess an impressive collection of Egyptian art. It would please me greatly to see some of these works, if such a viewing would be convenient.

Consul Sanguineus Viviani[/ic]

[ic=Before the Senate]Having heard the spirited debate here on the Senate floor, I must speak in favour of Senator de Vinti's request – so long as his claim not to overreach the bounds of his authority is sincere. Rome has great need of a courthouse: disgracefully, there are now streets of the city where it is unsafe to tread, the haunt of thieves and other disreputable men who prefer a parasitic existence to one of honest labour. While I hope to soon rectify this vile state of affairs, a courthouse will serve as a symbol for the triumph of order in our city and help to ensure a more just and peaceful Rome. Of course, it must be emphasized that by overseeing the courthouse's construction Senator de Vinti by now means gains any added powers over matters of justice; I am sure the good Senator will agree with this sentiment![/ic]

[ic=Before the Lesser Council]While it is not my function, as Consul of the Interior, to concern myself with the affairs of Rome outside of its walls, I must concur with Signore Annibaldo's assessment. The breadbreakers – no friends of the Viviani – must be thwarted, and the Torre Maggiore taken. I lack any private forces suitable for this task, and until my own enterprises here in Rome are developed further, sadly cannot pledge funds or men to such an endeavour, but I urge my fellow senators to support this cause.[/ic]

[ooc=Orders for Spring 1160]- Sanguineus will use [1 WP] to hire 100 masnada, beginning with any trusted associates, relations, or friends of his late father before moving on to militia veterans or local toughs. These men will be hired only for the season, although if they serve Sangeuineus well he will note their names and keep them in mind for future endeavours.

- Putting his nephew, Morus, in charge of the masnada as well as most of his household guard save for a pair of personal bodyguards, Sanguineus orders his men to the riverside of Arenule et Caccabariorum with instructions to act as thief-takers, arresting anyone found to be hoarding grain, harassing locals, or disturbing the public peace. His men will cooperate with those of Consul Basile and Senator Bocca. Those arrested should be tried in the city's courts, though if efforts can be made to divert some into the ranks of the military as per Roderigo's suggestion, these should be taken. While most of the higher-ranking thieves should probably be hanged if they can be caught, Morus is instructed to keep on the lookout for any particularly enterprising thieves or gang-leaders. Such individuals should be offered pardons in exchange for the names of their associates and furthermore offered bribes totalling no more than [1 WP] in order to secure their assistance in "cleaning house" – Sanguineus realizes that Rome will never be wholly free of crime, but he'd rather have the resident thieves in his pocket if he can. If such an arrangement with a local gang can be made, Morus should suggest that in exchange for toleration of minor criminal activities Sanguineus will expect a modest cut, as well as news of any developments in the Roman underworld, such as it is. Naturally, any such agreements should be kept as secret as possible.

- Any funds seized in the course of the raid should be siphoned to restoration of fire-damaged areas of Rome, although if significant coin is discovered Morus is instructed to quietly requisition up to [1 WP].

- Any stolen grain or bread seized should be distributed to its proper recipients as soon as possible.

- Use up to [1 WP] to add to the laboratory and library, prioritizing funds for a copy of the Book of Secrets to be made courtesy of Roberto Basile.

- While Sanguineus lacks the wealth to help with the courthouse he approves of Senator De Vinti's proposal.

- If the matter of Cassi's pardon is raised again, Sanguineus will this time vote with Consul Basile and lend his support to the motion.

- Sanguineus will send trusted agents to seek out information concerning Avenazon and, if possible, contact him to ascertain his current employment, and whether he would be interested in returning to Rome.[/ooc]

Magnus Pym

Polycarp, maybe another week? Or until Sunday evening?
I can personally have my orders up for Friday, for sure. I just thought maybe more interactions between the players would be a good thing. There's some serious stuff happening.

Nomadic

Yea another week would be good. I'd like to give TMG a chance to get his stuff done and there are a few player interactions that need to happen before I get my orders finalized.

LD