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SDragon

#15
February 21, 2007, 11:08:09 AM
crossed by this thread in search of another, but....

Quote from: Epic MeepoIt lost it's punch around #130...  Except for the following five articles, that is!

"101 Evil Scemes" in Dragon Annual #5
"101 Wondrous Whereabouts" in Dragon #281
"Tag Team Terrors" in Dragon #288
"Psions of the Orient" in Dragon #303
"The Master Astrologer" in Dragon #340

Not that I'm biased because I wrote them or anything...

But ever since Dragon went over to Paizo, they've gotten into this nasty habit of ignoring people who query stuff without even so much as a polite, "no thanks," so I'm not going to trumpet the virtues of their magazine all too loudly these days.

@Xathan: Not that I'm biased because of a secret project I'm working on or anything... :evillaugh:


You wrote that? I just recently got that issue, and that's not a half-bad article. I think I'll have to check out the rest...
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[/spoiler][spoiler=Books I Own]
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PHB 3.5
DMG 3.5
MM 3.5
MM2
MM5
Ebberon Campaign Setting
Legends of the Samurai
Aztecs: Empire of the Dying Sun
Encyclopaedia Divine: Shamans
D20 Modern

GURPS:

GURPS Lite 3e

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Marvel Universe RPG
MURPG Guide to the X-Men
MURPG Guide to the Hulk and the Avengers
Battle-Scarred Veterans Go Hiking
Champions Worldwide

MISC:

Dungeon Master for Dummies
Dragon Magazine, issues #340, #341, and #343[/spoiler][spoiler=The Ninth Cabbage]  \@/
[/spoiler][spoiler=AKA]
SDragon1984
SDragon1984- the S is for Penguin
Ona'Envalya
Corn
Eggplant
Walrus
SpaceCowboy
Elfy
LizardKing
LK
Halfling Fritos
Rorschach Fritos
[/spoiler]

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Epic Meepo

#16
February 21, 2007, 01:37:04 PM
Quote from: sdragon1984- the S is for penguinthat's not a half-bad article
Dungeon[/i] as well. That's where the real action is.
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khyron1144

#17
February 21, 2007, 01:53:21 PM
I currently subscribe.  I think they've been doing a lot of fun stuff recently that appeals to the Old Schooler in me.  The Demonomicon series, for example.


I've also had letters printed in Scalemail in the last year.
What's a Minmei and what are its ballistic capabilities?

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Elven Doritos

#18
April 19, 2007, 04:36:55 PM
Oh, how we danced and we swallowed the night
For it was all ripe for dreaming
Oh, how we danced away all of the lights
We've always been out of our minds
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snakefing

#19
April 19, 2007, 05:09:47 PM
Quote from: Epic Meepo"101 Evil Scemes" in Dragon Annual #5

Evil "scemes"?
My Wiki

My Unitarian Jihad name is: The Dagger of the Short Path.
And no, I don't understand it.

Ishmayl-Retired

#20
April 19, 2007, 05:16:16 PM
QuoteROM THE PUBLISHER
Dear friends,

Today, Wizards of the Coast and Paizo Publishing announced the conclusion of Paizo's license to publish Dragon and Dungeon magazines. The magazines will cease publication following the release of the September issues, which ship to subscribers and newsstands in August. The final issues will be Dragon #359 and Dungeon #150.

Wizards of the Coast will be moving the kind of content currently found in Dragon and Dungeon to an online model. Both companies remain on good terms and continue to discuss future opportunities for publishing partnerships.

Today also marks the official announcement of Pathfinder, a new monthly 96-page, perfect-bound, OGL-compatible full-color softcover Adventure Path book printed on high-quality paper for use with the world's most popular roleplaying game. Over the last several months, the same editors who bring you Dragon and Dungeon have been developing the next evolution in RPG campaigns, and we hope you'll take some time to look at what we have to offer. Pathfinder will debut in August at hobby retail stores, bookstores, and here on paizo.com, and?though it's a book, not a magazine?we'll be offering a subscription service for gamers eager to add a vorpal edge to their campaigns. In fact, you can subscribe to Pathfinder right now and receive a free bonus Player's Guide to the first Pathfinder Adventure Path: Rise of the Runelords.

Speaking of subscriptions, the discontinuation of Dragon and Dungeon will leave many of our valued subscribers with excess subscription credit. Paizo has set up a special Transition Page that offers multiple options to these subscribers.

We're sure many of you have questions about this development, so we've developed a special Frequently Asked Questions page that covers many of the issues you'll wonder about. If you don't see your question listed there, drop by the new Magazine Transition forum on our Customer Service messageboards, which we will be monitoring closely.

If you're concerned about the future of Paizo, you can relax. We're very excited about Pathfinder, our GameMastery line of RPG modules and accessories, our Titanic Games line of deluxe board games, and Planet Stories, our recently announced line of classic science fiction and fantasy novels. No Paizo staffers have lost their jobs as a result of this development?in fact, we're so enthusiastic about our future that we've recently hired several new employees. However, if you're wondering what you can do to help Paizo succeed in our new ventures, please visit our What Can I Do to Help? page.

Dragon and Dungeon have been the backbone of Paizo Publishing for five years since we spun off from Wizards of the Coast's periodicals department in 2002, and both magazines have been an integral part of the RPG publishing world for decades. Bringing the magazines to you every month has been a true honor, and we in the Paizo family look forward to the continuing honor of serving your gaming needs for years and years to come.

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April 19, 2007

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#21
April 21, 2007, 03:37:58 AM
I've bought Dragon on a regular basis in my FLGS. It had - imho - quite some good points. Demonomicon, Class Acts, Ecology of XYZ, stuff about other planes (demiplanes, shadow plane, ...), and so on. This mag was a good way to get some ideas for settings or adventures, or to try out something new regarding classes or mechanics.

I'm thoroughly disappointed by WotC, that they drop both mags (although I'm not a "longtime gamer" and just started with DnD when 3.0 came out). It seems the $$$-heads that make most of the decisions over there have no interest in the fanbase. :-/ Other than that I have no explaination on why WotC would drop a print mag in favor of "online content". x.

And although Pathfinder (Paizo's follow up product) looks interesting, it's just too expensive for me at ~$20. :( Seems that from now on I'll have some more bucks per month to spend on other things. :-| And I seriously won't get WotC's "online content". If this has the same quality as Mind's Eye was some time ago ("uhhh... look, you can take this thing and.. uhh... replace "magic" with "psionic"..." x. ) thank you very much. :-/

SA

#22
April 21, 2007, 06:29:10 AM
Damn the exchange rate.  YOur $20 is our... um...

(Does calculations)

I don't wanna think about it!  That's like half a freaking sourcebook!

brainface

#23
April 21, 2007, 09:40:05 AM
QuoteI don't wanna think about it! That's like half a freaking sourcebook!
is[/i] about half a frigg'n source book. (96 pages). I'd imagine you could buy issues 1,4,8,11, and be spending about as much as dungeon would cost for about as much content.
"The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire

Wrexham3

#24
April 21, 2007, 09:47:30 AM
Just found out about 'Dragon' and 'Dungeon' coming to an end a few minutes ago.  I am kind of sad - I started buying Dragon twenty years ago, I have been buying it on and off in the past few years.  The recent content has not been up to much, but it can have the odd good idea every now and again.  I bought 'Dungeon' for the first time last week, for the Isle of Dread scenario.  Its another end of an era I suppose.  

Epic Meepo

#25
April 21, 2007, 01:06:43 PM
Quote from: Ra-TielAnd although Pathfinder (Paizo's follow up product) looks interesting, it's just too expensive for me at ~$20.
Pathfinder[/i] products, Paizo will be forced to cut that price at least in half. And I'm sure Amazon.com will be selling Pathfinder stuff at huge discounts.

QuoteAnd I seriously won't get WotC's "online content".
Dungeon[/i] magazine for value.
The Unfinished World campaign setting
Proud recipient of a Silver Dorito Award.
Unless noted otherwise, this post contains no Open Game Content.
[spoiler=OPEN GAME LICENSE Version 1.0a]OPEN GAME LICENSE Version 1.0a
The following text is the property of Wizards of the Coast, Inc. and is Copyright 2000 Wizards of the Coast, Inc ("Wizards"). All Rights Reserved.

1. Definitions: (a)"Contributors" means the copyright and/or trademark owners who have contributed Open Game Content; (b)"Derivative Material" means copyrighted material including derivative works and translations (including into other computer languages), potation, modification, correction, addition, extension, upgrade, improvement, compilation, abridgment or other form in which an existing work may be recast, transformed or adapted; (c) "Distribute" means to reproduce, license, rent, lease, sell, broadcast, publicly display, transmit or otherwise distribute; (d)"Open Game Content" means the game mechanic and includes the methods, procedures, processes and routines to the extent such content does not embody the Product Identity and is an enhancement over the prior art and any additional content clearly identified as Open Game Content by the Contributor, and means any work covered by this License, including translations and derivative works under copyright law, but specifically excludes Product Identity. (e) "Product Identity" means product and product line names, logos and identifying marks including trade dress; artifacts; creatures characters; stories, storylines, plots, thematic elements, dialogue, incidents, language, artwork, symbols, designs, depictions, likenesses, formats, poses, concepts, themes and graphic, photographic and other visual or audio representations; names and descriptions of characters, spells, enchantments, personalities, teams, personas, likenesses and special abilities; places, locations, environments, creatures, equipment, magical or supernatural abilities or effects, logos, symbols, or graphic designs; and any other trademark or registered trademark clearly identified as Product identity by the owner of the Product Identity, and which specifically excludes the Open Game Content; (f) "Trademark" means the logos, names, mark, sign, motto, designs that are used by a Contributor to identify itself or its products or the associated products contributed to the Open Game License by the Contributor (g) "Use", "Used" or "Using" means to use, Distribute, copy, edit, format, modify, translate and otherwise create Derivative Material of Open Game Content. (h) "You" or "Your" means the licensee in terms of this agreement.

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7. Use of Product Identity: You agree not to Use any Product Identity, including as an indication as to compatibility, except as expressly licensed in another, independent Agreement with the owner of each element of that Product Identity. You agree not to indicate compatibility or co-adaptability with any Trademark or Registered Trademark in conjunction with a work containing Open Game Content except as expressly licensed in another, independent Agreement with the owner of such Trademark or Registered Trademark. The use of any Product Identity in Open Game Content does not constitute a challenge to the ownership of that Product Identity. The owner of any Product Identity used in Open Game Content shall retain all rights, title and interest in and to that Product Identity.

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10 Copy of this License: You MUST include a copy of this License with every copy of the Open Game Content You Distribute.

11. Use of Contributor Credits: You may not market or advertise the Open Game Content using the name of any Contributor unless You have written permission from the Contributor to do so.

12 Inability to Comply: If it is impossible for You to comply with any of the terms of this License with respect to some or all of the Open Game Content due to statute, judicial order, or governmental regulation then You may not Use any Open Game Material so affected.

13 Termination: This License will terminate automatically if You fail to comply with all terms herein and fail to cure such breach within 30 days of becoming aware of the breach. All sublicenses shall survive the termination of this License.

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Open Game License v 1.0 Copyright 2000, Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

System Reference Document Copyright 2000-2003, Wizards of the Coast, Inc.; Authors Jonathan Tweet, Monte Cook, Skip Williams, Rich Baker, Andy Collins, David Noonan, Rich Redman, Bruce R. Cordell, based on original material by E. Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson.

Modern System Reference Doument Copyright 2002, Wizards of the Coast, Inc.; Authors Bill Slavicsek, Jeff Grubb, Rich Redman, Charles Ryan, based on material by Jonathan Tweet, Monte Cook, Richard Baker, Peter Adkison, Bruce R. Cordell, John Tynes, Andy Collins, and JD Walker.

Swords of Our Fathers Copyright 2003, The Game Mechanics.

Mutants & Masterminds Copyright 2002, Green Ronin Publishing.

Unearthed Arcana Copyright 2004, Wizards of the Coast, Inc.; Andy Collins, Jesse Decker, David Noonan, Rich Redman.

Epic Meepoââ,¬â,,¢s forum posts at www.thecbg.org Copyright 2006-2007, E.W. Morton.

Cebexia, Tapestry of the Gods Copyright 2006-2007, the Campaign Builder's Guild.[/spoiler]

brainface

#26
April 21, 2007, 03:39:45 PM
QuoteI actually have no problem with the free online PDF adventures that WotC has already posted. Some of them are a bit silly, but hey, they're free, so they beat Dungeon magazine for value.
I don't think wizard's makes much money off of free adventures man ;)
"The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire

brainface

#27
April 21, 2007, 03:45:10 PM
QuoteDon't worry. After a quarter or two of not selling any Pathfinder products, Paizo will be forced to cut that price at least in half. And I'm sure Amazon.com will be selling Pathfinder stuff at huge discounts.

It's 96 pages with no ads man. I don't think they CAN cut the price by that much. There's likely legal reasons preventing them from cutting page count or offering more ad space.
"The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire

SDragon

#28
April 21, 2007, 03:50:31 PM
Having just heard of this, I'm rather upset; I had only recently gotten into Dragon, and I was hoping to start getting  a few issues of Dungeon, as well.

My plan is to get one copy of each issue, from now until september, and then start looking into back issues. I already have a few ideas of where to start with the collection of back issues, too.
[spoiler=My Projects]
Xiluh
Fiendspawn
Opening The Dark SRD
Diceless Universal Game System (DUGS)
[/spoiler][spoiler=Merits I Have Earned]
divine power
last poster in the dragons den for over 24 hours award
Commandant-General of the Honor Guard in Service of Nonsensical Awards.
operating system
stealer of limetom's sanity
top of the tavern award


[/spoiler][spoiler=Books I Own]
D&D/d20:
PHB 3.5
DMG 3.5
MM 3.5
MM2
MM5
Ebberon Campaign Setting
Legends of the Samurai
Aztecs: Empire of the Dying Sun
Encyclopaedia Divine: Shamans
D20 Modern

GURPS:

GURPS Lite 3e

Other Systems:

Marvel Universe RPG
MURPG Guide to the X-Men
MURPG Guide to the Hulk and the Avengers
Battle-Scarred Veterans Go Hiking
Champions Worldwide

MISC:

Dungeon Master for Dummies
Dragon Magazine, issues #340, #341, and #343[/spoiler][spoiler=The Ninth Cabbage]  \@/
[/spoiler][spoiler=AKA]
SDragon1984
SDragon1984- the S is for Penguin
Ona'Envalya
Corn
Eggplant
Walrus
SpaceCowboy
Elfy
LizardKing
LK
Halfling Fritos
Rorschach Fritos
[/spoiler]

Before you accept advice from this post, remember that the poster has 0 ranks in knowledge (the hell I'm talking about)

DeeL

#29
April 21, 2007, 05:45:19 PM
[Shatnerian Overwroughtness]NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
The Rules of the Titanic's Baker - 1)Have fun, 2)Help when you can, and 3) Don't be a pain.




 
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