Don't watch Spiderman 3

Xeviat · May 04, 2007, 06:10:39 PM

Save yourselves 10 dollers folks (or what ever currency you use), Spiderman 3 was a disapointment. I can't say that I hated it, but I was so mixed with emotions to be very confused when I left the theater. Parts were trying to be cheesy, and that was okay. Parts were trying to be overly emotional, and that got to be a little too much (and Mary Jane was being entirely irrational, obviously written by a man with very stereotypical views of women). The action sequences were very exciting visually, but a few didn't make any sense (I'm looking at you last fight; I won't ruin it for those who want to see it).

I hear that Sam Raimi didn't want to do a Venom movie, that he didn't like Venom or the entire story arch, and this entire movie comes off as a middle-finger to the producers for making him make a Venom movie. It also seemed like a 2 hour resignation letter.

Now, rather than confusion, I'm just disapointed. Very disapointed. Spiderman 2 is deemed the best comic-book movie by Rotten Tomatoes, and Spiderman 3 is resting uncomfortably on a 40% right now (from their top reviewers that is, it has an overall 65%).

Don't see it, save the time. Watch Spiderman 2 again. Then watch the 90s cartoon, I'm sure it's on Youtube.

SDragon · May 04, 2007, 06:28:44 PM

See, I liked it. I had a few nitpicks, such as the casting for Brock, and the way Venom referred to themself, but other then that, it was great.

I don't think MaryJane wasn't too bad, either. I think she was definitely done differently then she was in the first two, but I wouldn't say it was unrealistic, either.

Ninja D! · May 04, 2007, 06:30:57 PM

At first, I was considering listening to you. Then you spoke highly of Spiderman 2. This means, to me, Spiderman 3 is probably really good. I though 2 was stupid but the first one was alright. The 90s cartoon beats all three of them combined, hands down. I don't even need to watch 3 to know that.

Ishmayl-Retired · May 04, 2007, 06:42:51 PM

Quote from: Ninja D!The 90s cartoon beats all three of them combined, hands down.

Wow...

That's all I can really say to that.

And as for Venom's self references, if he spoke of himself (or themself) in plural form, then that's very accurate to the comics. I haven't seen the movie yet, I'm just trying to figure out what about his referencing that you liked/disliked.

the_taken · May 04, 2007, 07:09:10 PM

Don't spoil anything 'till at least a week after the opening. Courtesy to the late goers.

BTW: I'm gonna see it tonight, and will give the CBG my score of the movie.

SDragon · May 04, 2007, 07:36:39 PM

Quote from: Ishmayl
Quote from: Ninja D!The 90s cartoon beats all three of them combined, hands down.

Wow...

That's all I can really say to that.

And as for Venom's self references, if he spoke of himself (or themself) in plural form, then that's very accurate to the comics. I haven't seen the movie yet, I'm just trying to figure out what about his referencing that you liked/disliked.

See, that's just it!

Quote from: Movie Venom... I want him killed...

two seperate beings[/i]!

Higgs Boson · May 04, 2007, 07:54:11 PM

I'm seeing it in 2 hours, and i seriously doubt the sucky=ness of it...but whtever, ill tell you after i see it.

Epic Meepo · May 04, 2007, 08:22:53 PM

Quote from: XeviatSave yourselves 10 dollers folks...

The following spoiler is an actual spoiler. Don't read it if you haven't seen the movie yet.[/b]
[spoiler]Xeviat, though you dislike the way MJ was portrayed, my biggest complaint was Sandman. Seriously, what was the Sandman's motivation in this movie?

"Hi, I need to steal money to save my daughter's life. Oh, you want to kill Spiderman for no apparent reason? And it won't actually contribute anything to my efforts to save my daughter? Well, count me in..."

Then: "Wait, you failed to kill Spiderman, and in the process, made it look as though I died, therefore freeing me up to steal money with impunity. I think I'll go have a random chat with Spiderman before fleeing, just so he knows I'm still around..."

For that matter, if I were a man who could transform himself into an amorphous, flying mass of sand, I sure could come up with a better criminal plan than "I'm going to get real big and smash stuff now." WTF?

And Topher Grace as Venom? WTF?

Actually, I take that back. My biggest complaint was the plot, which read more like an excuse to string several interesting scenes together than a story that follows the lives of evolving characters. The whole thing felt like a living storyboard held together by duct tape.

Amnesia? That omnipresent hot blonde whose character conveniently fills about half-a-dozen different roles in the story? A retcon that re-edits the original movie to provide a second chance to avenge Peter's already avenged uncle? Harry's hereforto unmentioned but somehow all knowing butler? Will the plot convenience never end?

And by the way, a word to all you butlers out there: If you are working for someone who has devoted himself to a life of violent crime in order to avenge his father's death, and you are in possession of knowledge that the father actually died by his own hand, the appropriate time to divulge this information is immediately, not two years and several attempted murders after the fact.[/spoiler]

SDragon · May 04, 2007, 09:15:33 PM

Was I the only one who enjoyed the movie? I mean, OK, it had some [spoiler=flaws]This is a genuine spoiler. Don't read on if you plan on watching the movie[spoiler]Eric Foreman as Eddy Brock?
Sandman can grow, now?
Venom is an "I" now, not a "we"?
The old tussled hair + black clothes = evil bit?
Harry and Peter patching things up that easily?
"Dear GOD, please kill Peter Parker for me. Amen."?
And was I the only one who was disturbed by that little dance thing evil Peter did in front of the store?![/spoiler][/spoiler]

But what about some of the other stuff Marvel has come out with lately? Fantastic Four? Ghost Rider? Next to those, this was sheer talent. The acting was great as usual, and alot of the plot "flaws" mentioned are easily excusable. All in all, I thought it was a good movie.

the_taken · May 05, 2007, 01:04:56 AM

It could have been better.

The last seen was totally crap though. WTF was the message they were trying get across in that?

Higgs Boson · May 05, 2007, 01:54:23 AM

I loved it. Especially when he was walking around town. That was the funniest thing ever.

Higgs Boson · May 05, 2007, 01:54:23 AM

I loved it. Especially when he was walking around town. That was the funniest thing ever.

Xeviat · May 05, 2007, 02:22:30 AM

See, Marvel's problem is that they aren't making the movies themselves. DC had the right idea getting in bed with WB, so all their movies are done by WB.

Spidey 2 had its problems, but critics loved it. I really liked it, aside from a few nitpics. But Spidey 3 had more than a few nitpics.

SDragon · May 05, 2007, 05:27:06 PM

Quote from: Uranium-238I loved it. Especially when he was walking around town. That was the funniest thing ever.

Apparently I was the only one...

Ishmayl-Retired · May 05, 2007, 10:56:46 PM

Well, I saw the movie. It definitely wasn't the train wreck that was X-men 3, but it was a very large disappointment. Being the avid comic fan, and in particular, the avid Spiderman comic fan that I am (and have been since I was six years old), I have a lot of feelings and emotions about this movie. I'm probably not going to go into too many details until the movie's a bit older and people don't have to worry about spoilers so much, but suffice it to say, this is another case of a movie that should have been written by fans instead of by producers trying to make an extra buck from the 12-year old crowds....

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