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Started by Soup Nazi, April 02, 2006, 04:26:22 AM

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Soup Nazi

Iâ,¬,,¢ve got a handful of goals with Sulos. First of all Iâ,¬,,¢d like to introduce a psionic organization of some kind based in Lâ,¬,,¢Landra, but prominent throughout the world, much like the Sacred Cabal is in Rhoenheim. Iâ,¬,,¢m not sure exactly what kind of organization I want, but I know it should be seen in a way that is not completely mysterious. I want psionics to be a known factor, though probably something sort of new (in a sense). Psionics in Sulos were integral in Ilsen long ago, but they faded away for quite a while. Only recently have they once again become important. Any thoughts or suggestions?

I also really want to revisit the crimson nomads and flesh them out. Iâ,¬,,¢m thinking they should be primarily human, but led by élan (rather than composed entirely of élan). I see the élan as the mentors of these humans, who are training them for the eventuality of their transformation, and the eternal duty of protecting the secrets of Ilsen.
EDIT: I just tweaked the Crimson Nomad sidebar. Any initial impressions?

I want to throw a sidebar into Hazraâ,¬,,¢Gahlduur about zepplins. Iâ,¬,,¢m envisioning the zepplins as a secret military project, which could completely change the essence of warfare in the future. Zepplin bombers could almost single-handedly win a war in Kashra, should it ever come to pass. What do you think? Is this too over the top?  

For classes Iâ,¬,,¢d like to use many different base classes, but I think I should outline them by their place in the world. Some would be quite common in certain places, but quite rare in others. Swashbucklers for example fit perfectly into Lâ,¬,,¢Landra but seem very out of place elsewhere. I do not want to use PrCs too much at allâ,¬Â¦I really think PrCs should have specific roles in the setting, and only a handful fit very well. I think I should make some sort of list of PrCs, and where they fit in as well. It would be nice if each nation had four or five PrCs that played significant roles in their societyâ,¬Â¦though it may mean that Iâ,¬,,¢ll have to write a few up myself. Sound like the way to go?  

-Nasty-

P.S. I added a bunch of core races with minor tweaks, like languages, favored weapons, and a substituion level for hobgoblin fighters. I also added a sidebar to Kashra about whaling, and the cuisines of Thoth and Tair'Shola. Feel free to check them out.

P.S.S. I'm wondering if I should add bugbears to the races section. I doubt that with a +1 LA and three levels of humanoid they will get much consideration for game-play, but they are a very important part of Hazra'Ghalduur. Any thoughts on the subject?
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Soup Nazi

I added classes to the first post. Those listed are not exclusive, but the most established within the setting. They have definative roles, and a clear place in Sulos. Those any particular DM chooses to include beyond this point, are within their hands alone. There is no written precedent for additional base classes beyond the ones I have listed, but Sulos is flexible enough to accomodate them if you so desire.

-Nasty-
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Soup Nazi

I've got a couple of odd ball questions here. I'm not too keen on using wild shape, alter self or polymorph effects. While it is quite simple to just say alter self and polymorph don't exist, druids play a big part in my setting, which makes wild shape a bit more difficult. Anybody have any good suggestions for the kind of power or powers that I could replace wildshape with, that would stick to the flavor of my druidic traditions?

-Nasty-

P.S. You can read about the druids of Sulos in Tair'Shola and Sylescnia
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Túrin

W00t! This is one huge awesome beast of a thread. While I'm sure you don't think of it this way, it looks very finalized. Not that nothing can be added anymore (quite the opposite) but the format gives an imression of completeness.

As for your question: I'm sure you're well aware there has been a polymorph fix recently on the site of Wizards of the Coast, but Rich Burlew (you know, at www.giantitp.com) did something similar (but much more radical) a year or two ago, so check that out as well.

Keep up the good work!

;) Túrin
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"Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate; and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Shaping of Middle-Earth

Soup Nazi

Quote from: TúrinW00t! This is one huge awesome beast of a thread. While I'm sure you don't think of it this way, it looks very finalized. Not that nothing can be added anymore (quite the opposite) but the format gives an imression of completeness.

As for your question: I'm sure you're well aware there has been a polymorph fix recently on the site of Wizards of the Coast, but Rich Burlew (you know, at www.giantitp.com) did something similar (but much more radical) a year or two ago, so check that out as well.

Keep up the good work!

;) Túrin

Yeah I'm not just too keen on polymorph at all anymore. The errata just makes it even more clunky, and it slows down play too much to be worth the effort in my eyes. I'd just as soon ban it, and be done with it, but I still need a good substitute for wildshape, because druids are important in Sulos. I don't much care for the UA variants too much, so maybe I'll just have to come up with something on my own.

Yeah Sulos is starting to look like a pretty whole setting, but I still see tons of room for additions, tweaks, and minor changes.

Thanks for dropping by Turin.

-Nasty-
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Soup Nazi

I added demographics to each nation for those interested in that kind of thing. I'm probably the only one who really cares, but that's OK...it's my world dang it all.  :coffee:

-Nasty-
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Túrin

I know. I don't care much for YOUR world's demographics, but I sure give some attention to the demographics of my own.
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"Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate; and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Shaping of Middle-Earth

Soup Nazi

Quote from: TúrinI know. I don't care much for YOUR world's demographics, but I sure give some attention to the demographics of my own.
I kind of figured that would be about the standard reaction to such things. No biggie.  :D

-Nasty-
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Tenebrous_Sage

Hello Nastynate, I thought I would stop by to say that I like your setting so much I joined this forum.

Soup Nazi

Thanks man. There are some other phenominal settings worth checking out over here as well, but I'm glad I lured you over.

-Nasty-
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Epic Meepo

Quote from: nastynate
Quote from: TúrinI know. I don't care much for YOUR world's demographics, but I sure give some attention to the demographics of my own.
I kind of figured that would be about the standard reaction to such things. No biggie.  :D

-Nasty-


On the other hand, try running a campaign set in a world where the DM doesn't know what percentage of NPCs are something other than human.

Demographics are your friend...
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QuoteOn the other hand, try running a campaign set in a world where the DM doesn't know what percentage of NPCs are something other than human.

Demographics are your friend...

I do think about things like this quite often, but I'm sure there are campaigns when it simply never comes up. We're world builders over here, so we think about a great deal of things that aren't really a necessity. I actually considered land mass, hospitable terrain, population density, and the comparative populations of similar nations in 19th century Earth when I came up with these figures. I can't say that I had to do that; I just wanted to.

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Túrin

I usually use this instead of figuring out those things myself. The reasoning behind it can be found here.
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"Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate; and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Shaping of Middle-Earth

Soup Nazi

QuoteI usually use this instead of figuring out those things myself. The reasoning behind it can be found here.
That's pretty cool, but Sulos has a population and technology closer to the mid 19th century, which is significantly more densely populated, and had cities bursting at the seams. I'd use that in a heart beat otherwise, but it just isn't a good fit for Sulos. I'll run the numbers anyway, just to see how close it comes.

That is a fantastic tool Turin. I'm glad you showed it to me.

-Nasty-
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Túrin

Just passing on the good news. I totally love that site.

*melancholical* Did you know Kalos Mer gave me this link back in the day? Must be about a year ago now...
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"Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate; and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Shaping of Middle-Earth