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Started by Túrin, March 30, 2006, 08:45:20 AM

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Soup Nazi

#60
April 06, 2006, 12:52:05 PM
I don't think that it's necessary for justicars, although that does work as well. So long as the paladins are true to their code, they'd make fine knights...they could be kept in the dark about the less honorable activities of the imperial court. It's better that way for role-playing purposes anyway. A paladin who discovers that there is some sinister force at work behind the throne finds himself in a difficult position, where he has to choose between his loyalty to the empire vs. his own ethical code.

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brainface

#61
April 06, 2006, 12:54:58 PM
QuoteI'd like to see Paladins as strictly Emperial, and rangers as strictly Totemic (pantheon wise).
many[/i] of them, and they might not be as high ranking. We don't really need to define an opposing totem class to meet all of the empire classes, do we?
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daggerhart

#62
April 06, 2006, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: brainface
QuoteI'd like to see Paladins as strictly Emperial, and rangers as strictly Totemic (pantheon wise).
many[/i] of them, and they might not be as high ranking. We don't really need to define an opposing totem class to meet all of the empire classes, do we?

i agree.

i mean, there will def be Emperial rangers (urban, or explorers) and i dont think its necessary to restrict the paladin.

You could easily have an elven paladin of the tarraques, who wears hide armor and chucks spears.
i think the stereotype for the paladin is holding back some imaginations.
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Soup Nazi

#63
April 06, 2006, 01:16:05 PM
By no means was I personally advocating a strictly imperial role for paladins. I do think paladins would make a great knightly class for the empire, and the one place where we'd see them in numbers. A few lone paladins here and there in wild lands is perfectly fine too.

I like organizations, like knighthoods, guilds, schools, and so on. I think having iconic roles for certain classes is very important with a setting, to showcase the unique aspects of the world that differentiate it from other campaigns. But these iconic roles are never the only place for people of that particular class, just the most well known place to find them.

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brainface

#64
April 06, 2006, 01:44:03 PM
Quote from: nastyA few lone paladins here and there in wild lands is perfectly fine too.

several of them could be former imperials, who'd had enough/seen too much, and decided breaking with the order was the only way they could stay true to their code.
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Soup Nazi

#65
April 06, 2006, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: brainface
Quote from: nastyA few lone paladins here and there in wild lands is perfectly fine too.

Glad you're getting what I'm talking about. I think the idea of rogue imperials is fantastic too. I hope this paladin order makes the cut, because it seems too good a fit to get omitted or passed over. So much potential for dynamic character devlopment, adventure, and intrigue exists inherently within the basic concept.

-Nasty-
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Túrin

#66
April 06, 2006, 03:24:17 PM
So I think a vote is in order here: either we go with very specific classes for the two "parts" of the world (i.e. most clerics, wizards and paladins are in the empire, most druids, sorcerers and rangers are in the city-states, somethings like that) OR we do not make such a sharp division (which means we either have totem/empire variants of some classes, or do not draw a parallel between class and location (empire or city-state) at all).

Shall I put up a vote?
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Soup Nazi

#67
April 06, 2006, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: TúrinSo I think a vote is in order here: either we go with very specific classes for the two "parts" of the world (i.e. most clerics, wizards and paladins are in the empire, most druids, sorcerers and rangers are in the city-states, somethings like that) OR we do not make such a sharp division (which means we either have totem/empire variants of some classes, or do not draw a parallel between class and location (empire or city-state) at all).

Shall I put up a vote?
Go for it. I'm American; we love voting on stuff
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brainface

#68
April 06, 2006, 03:42:41 PM
i'm really not sure about these vote things. they seem to result in full support of one side, none for the other, while discussion yields compromise. i mean, discussion is slower, sure, but still.
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Numinous

#69
April 06, 2006, 04:05:46 PM
No comment on the votes but...

[rant]I love OOTS, and I do recall a valid point about Miko.  she has paladin class levels, but she calls herself a samurai.  The entire world could have the same classes with the same abilities, but they might have specifically varying ideologies or tiles, or concepts.[/rant]

I don't know whether that qualifies as a rnat, but I labelled it as such nonetheless.
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Wix of Bel-Air

#70
April 06, 2006, 04:06:29 PM
Hmmm... so you guys are still debating?! I like the idea of the variants of the classes based upon regions. It's easy, we just need the thoughts and ideas.
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Soup Nazi

#71
April 06, 2006, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: WixmanHmmm... so you guys are still debating?! I like the idea of the variants of the classes based upon regions. It's easy, we just need the thoughts and ideas.
I think you missed the point. The classes don't vary just the names based upon the region in which you pursue the profession.

Variant classes based on regions could be a logistical nightmare. I don't want every city state to have their own unique classes...that's crazy! We'd have hundreds of classes then. It's not easy at all.

-Nasty-
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daggerhart

#72
April 06, 2006, 04:20:42 PM
Quote from: nastynateI think you missed the point. The classes don't vary just the names based upon the region in which you pursue the profession.

Variant classes based on regions could be a logistical nightmare. I don't want every city state to have their own unique classes...that's crazy! We'd have hundreds of classes then. It's not easy at all.

im with you 100%.
Quote"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun!" the two said in a statement that seemed to parody Scientology as science fiction. "Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"

Túrin

#73
April 06, 2006, 05:02:25 PM
So do you think we need to vote (basically putting what nastynate said against what Wixman said in their last respective posts) or do you think we can reach a compromise here?
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Numinous

#74
April 06, 2006, 05:04:49 PM
clarify what those options are respectively, and then I'll give you an answer.  NN's last post was really nothing but a "not that!" post
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