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Started by Polycarp, November 02, 2007, 08:51:52 PM

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Stargate525

#240
January 10, 2008, 12:04:19 PM
If that be the case, can I just take it?
My Setting: Dilandri, The World of Five
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Polycarp

#242
January 10, 2008, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: WensleydaleI'm actually considering starting a new nation as well - just so one side of the Invernessi conflict can be 'GM'-led.

If you want.  Of course, given the personal union, in a turn or two you may be playing Kuregn.
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AllWillFall2Me

#243
January 10, 2008, 03:59:50 PM
*crosses fingers for turtles*
To save myself time, I will never say IMO. Unless I say in fact before something, that means it's my opinion.

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Alea iacta est.

Wensleydale

#244
January 10, 2008, 04:47:34 PM
...

Kicks and giggles.

Polycarp

#245
January 11, 2008, 04:09:23 AM
Since we're on the topic of beginning new states... we'll be seeing more of a map that is becoming much more crowded when the update comes out.  I don't have a problem with players taking control of existing states, though some are "antagonist" NPCs that I am keeping around for the sake of the story (at least until somebody offs them).

Ones that I am willing to part with include Dol, Balan, Atamn, and the Nem-Ammar.  As the east becomes more well known I might give away Etropahan, Cyrenahan, and so on.  The point is that many of my NPCs are not sacrosanct, and if you're in need of a new state at some point we can probably work something out.
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Polycarp

#246
January 11, 2008, 05:54:02 AM
The update should be out at some point on Friday.
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Wensleydale

#247
January 11, 2008, 11:20:17 AM
What about Celend? :P

(Joke, joke).

Polycarp

#248
January 11, 2008, 05:29:11 PM
Yeah, I'm not giving them up yet.  And eunuchs are unlikely to participate in royal marriages...

You can't play the Auri either, but you could play Atamn, which now has an Auri royal dynasty closely related to the Agah.
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"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aurelius

Atlantis

#249
January 11, 2008, 08:24:19 PM
i, myself was thinking of playing something southwest of Otahvy, that i created.
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Tillumni

#250
January 11, 2008, 09:01:19 PM
Bwaha..I love how you played up the difference between Avarderas people and Avarderas ruler....the whole "for the people, but not off the people"

things are sure to be tense between Andos and Avardera now.....can't wait to play the kings son, now king, handling of this~

Polycarp

#251
January 12, 2008, 01:32:55 AM
New update, so on, so forth.  You know the drill - tell me if something is terribly wrong.  You may now post to your little heart's content.
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AllWillFall2Me

#252
January 12, 2008, 03:12:15 AM
You are an evil, evil man. Or are checking if I'm one.

Finally, access to a newborn, possibly tamable giant turtle, and all I have to do is overpower an innocent tribe of turtle worshippers.

 Potential Gain at the expense of others, or potential loss for the benefit of them.

sigh

As a question, how canny are the people of my nation? Given time, I personally could develop a con to get these turtles peaceably, but I don't know if they could, given their relative lack of education.
To save myself time, I will never say IMO. Unless I say in fact before something, that means it's my opinion.

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Alea iacta est.

Polycarp

#253
January 12, 2008, 03:41:04 AM
The League is basically a ruling class of seafarers over a fairly loosely controlled base of commoners; in many ways the League is the closest thing to a textbook "empire" of any state in this game.  The ruling class ("ruling" doesn't mean they're all rich) of captains, navigators, sailors, and merchants is in constant contact between League settlements, but the League commoners of, say, Maducreon have absolutely nothing in common with the fishermen-pastoralists of the Whale Isle or the farmers of Norpost.  It reminds me of, say, Carthage - very few of the total population of the empire was Punic (Phoenecian), but basically all the ruling class was.

That 70-90% of the League's population (the regional commoners) are not at all educated in any way, shape or form.  As with most commoners at this time, virtually none are literate, and many may never have even seen writing before.  They don't know much about what's outside their village.

Because of the League's broad trade links, its commoners are probably more exposed to goods and ideas from foreign lands than most commoners, but they may only dimly perceive the vast and complex economic and political network that makes these things available.

On the other hand, the ruling class is a bit more of a mixed bag.  A sailor would probably not be literate or educated in anything more than sailing; that's all he has to do.  A merchant would be more "canny," because he has to know foreign tongues, needs a basic grasp of writing (enough to do mathematics, at least), and has a better understanding of the world in general.  Those kind of people, however, are a relatively thin upper crust of League society.

I wouldn't underestimate the abilities of a merchant class - they may not know calculus or game theory, but I don't think there's any doubt that I could be hoodwinked by a canny Phoenecian trader who came forward in time despite my college degree and his lack of one.  Some things don't really change with the "advance" of civilization. :)

Of course, I try not to give out black-and-white dilemmas, and I wouldn't assume immediately that peaceable restraint and violent exploitation are your only options... indeed, assuming that what you want (taming turtles) is even possible at all.
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Wensleydale

#254
January 12, 2008, 07:53:33 AM
Hmm. So we gained a pirate haven, and lost a weakling northerner island. In my opinion, that's a good trade. :P

Also, I can't wait to see how Kuregn progresses in the next update. The Despotissa's got a very interesting method of completely and utterly conquering other nations.

And I'm shocked. Inveran came out well in a conflict! That's just amazing.
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