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Started by Polycarp, August 16, 2007, 04:42:50 AM

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Tillumni

[ic= to the Strava of Andos]


Andos brough a message, offering reperations and the king suggested such reperatinos to be paid for through the might of Andos warrior. the terms for which Andos and Avardera have been discussing at lenght, and now Andos says there was no reperations needed to be paid in the first place?

Andos, or rather Strava, the King says, also mentioned that you hoped that the copper trade with Andos would be resumed, possible for a lowered price too as part of the terms for figthing pirates, and now Strava says that they have no interest in trade?

The King therefor assumes that the latest message states the true intention of Andos, and reply to those as following.


The King recognises that there is no reperation needed to be done by Strava and accept any such wording from Strava to be mis-wording and misunderstanding and no price need to be paid, therefor Avardera sees it as unreasonable to ask Andos to help Avardera combatting piracy in any form in Avarderas water, nor will Avardera ask Andos to trouble themself with protecting Avardera against the western demons, therefor, there is no need for Andos to trouble themself with leaving your water less defended and commiting to the costly affair of contructing an oversea outpost.

The Strava have stated both in the first message and implying through our corresponce that they desire peace, and so, the King will consider our nations at peace, with no further planned interactions needed.

The Strava have also stated having little interest in trade, and therefor, the King will not hinder, nor support trade with Andos, but merely lift the ban on trade with Andos and let Avarderas traders themself decide if they wishes to trade with Andos.

The King believe that this will settle the matter, and wishes to restate that.

Avardera recognise that there is no debt to be paid for by Andos, and so, there is no need for Andos to perform reperations by protecting Avarderas water and coasts
Avardera will consider our nations to no longer be at war, and will leave it at that
Avardera will as a extension of the above reasons, lift the ban on trade with Andos, but will not regulate the trade in any way.

The King hopes that there will be no further misunderstanding, and hopes that the past misunderstandings will be a thing of the past.

May We All Prosper. [/ic]

Polycarp

[ic=King Puul to Gregor]We do not respond well to threats, veiled though they may be.  Perhaps it would be best to respond by saying that, while we take no position in this war, the corsairs of Mandra are not always under our control...[/ic]
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amikaligula

[ic=The Strava to King Maes V]So be it.

However, I do wish to cut down piracy, as stated previously, in the name of O Glorious Rylodyne.  As I did give my Word to you to do this, I intend to unless you release me from my Word.  I merely wished that you cease to consider this as owed to you or your people.  It is an act of benevolence from I, the Strava Hyslyade.  I do this not in expectation of reward, but for O Glorious Rylodyne.

That said, be it understood that lowered prices on copper for Stravam was never a formal term in this agreement.  It was merely a desire of mine.  Hopefully, in time, we will gain the goodwill of the merchant lords.  It was merely my desire that you should seek to expedite this process in any way possible.  However, I will assume that matters are to remain as they are unless you decide otherwise.

Now, as to my Word.  I do intend to defend against Demons and pirates.  I wish to establish the outpost as we had discussed.  Where my terms agreeable?[/ic]
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amikaligula

[ic=In Alvlynehart, or "The High Forest"]Word has slowly  leaked of the existence and persistence of Geethouse Ovaytyes beyond the Realm of the Grychgayte to the highest authorities.  Yet, despite their best efforts, the exiled house remained elusive in the vast wilderness of the north.  So it is that in Year of the Comet 250, a most unprecipitated event took place:  Agents of the so called "Wytchegayte" or "Wytche Confederacy" contacted the powers that be and summoned them to a council.  So it is that even the Strava must leave her seat of power and travel to the deep, dark  and massive forest of the north...

This was the third attempt at this council.  The last two had been met with dissatisfaction from the Wytches, as they where angered of such a show of arms and did not even show.  The Strava would not have believed that they where being watched had not the Wytche's messenger gave such a detailed, and scalding, account on all the ways Stravam and the Ryvan-Holme had violated the allowances of having an escort.  Most ended up leaving, thinking that this final attempt was some sort of trap.  So it was that only the Strava and her eight guards, three Vrenas from the Ryvan-Holme with twenty-four escorts together, and four representatives of the Grychgayte with sixteen escorts between them where on this final march.

They arrived at the now familiar spot by noon, as planned.
It could have been called a clearing by the way the trees ringed an open space, except the giant trees' canopy obscured the sky completely.

Less than an hour later, the Grychgayte arrived.  All wore dark robing with masks of net knotted to look like a serpent's head bearing its fangs, except one.  The Strava recognized her as an Ovaytyes.  Furthermore, as a relative to the last Vrena.  As all the others where dead, that meant this was Avelyne.  Yes, the scars of a warrior adorned her, confirming her identity.  Yet she bore no spear.  Ah, yes.  She was blind, the Strava noticed in her oddly clouded eyes.  Yet she was guided by no one and, perhaps stranger, was allowed to live.  She eerily gazed at all individually with her sightless eyes.

"Behold, she of who you have struck down against justice.  Behold, she who is stronger for it.  Had I had a pool of water handy, I would also have you behold the fools who made this so.  No one in my family was a witch, yet that is precisely why they where destroyed.  Guilty by association and the need for scapegoats.  Huh.  Well, I am unapologetically a witch now, thanks to the lot of you.  But you must be wondering why I put myself at risk.  Strava, do you fear the North?"

Taken aback by the sudden address of her, she stammers, "Why, why no afraid, but they are surely greater than us.  Surely we should not war with the Gods or their people."

"Haha, surely not, and I am sure the Ryvan-Holme and the Grychgayte does not seek war.  Yet this depends on me.  For I bear the Tree, the token of the God's peace with us.  So long as it lives, we are at peace.  Should it die, it will be war.  Should I kill it, should you dissatisfy me, it would be war.  I have nothing to lose, now.  You stroke me down once, and now I am more powerful then I ever would have been seated on the Ryvan-Holme.  Strike me down once again, and I will become more powerful then you can possibly imagine.  My name will be the rallying call of your deaths, and the destruction of Andos such as to make the Auri look tame."

Nodding as the looks of dread understanding and fearful confusion entered her foe's face, she continued, "There will be more conditions later, but for now, I tell you all that the Wytches are to be respected and that the forests and mountains are mine.  Now get off of my land."

At this she sicks her wolves on them.  They draw their weapons only to fiind that they have somehow been stolen.  The whole group has no choice but to flee.[/ic]
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Stargate525

[ic=Gregor to Otahvy]
Have the twin kings fallen so far as to feel threatened by merchant ships? You must have misunderstood me. We know the sentiment in your kingdom, that you want us to leave. Since it was hithero of no profit for us to forbid it, we have continued to trade in your lands. Now, we offer you a way for us to prohibit trade with your peoples, so that the penalty will be borne double for breakers, here and in your kingdom.

By simply forcing us out, Inveran has no compulsion to prohibit something that you have already done. If a merchant sees that more wealth may be gained by traveling to your lands, then Inveran shall not stop him. We control the sactioning and regulation of the trade routes, not the merchants that travel along them. While I personally control a large company, it is by no means the majority of travel to your lands.

Or perhaps you did understand me, and the many years you have been soaking in your secluded harbor has rotted your keels and eaten your sails, and you are afriad of Inveran's merchant vessels. Personally, I doubt it. Know that Inveran will not make the mistake of starting war with you, not again, and not on your terms.
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Polycarp

[ic=King Puul to Inveran]I believe I have already made my position quite clear.  The Kingdom of Otahvy will take no side in this war; we see no reason to assist you for the dubious "benefits" you offer us.

I would add that you have not been trading with us, but with the League at Maducreon; since Maducreon is now ours, we are presented with the question of whether to restrict your vessels or not.  We see no point in making this decision until after the isles have returned to peace and the war is over.  Should you be the victor, we will then consider whether your ships may trade in our waters; should you be the vanquished, the question will become moot.[/ic]
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AllWillFall2Me

[ic=To The Prince Regent Horain]
Our apologies, great one, our historians had not informed us that Beitar was originally your land. We thought you some foreign invader casting us out, much as apparently we were in the older times. Your decision, we now see, is one of magnanimity. We thank you for sparing our captains, and seek to build a bridge of friendship between our troubled peoples. We did strike you, under Celend's direction, for Celend was our suzerain, but now we have cast off that relationship, therefore let us begin anew.[/ic]

 [ic=To Sarar Arridum]
We have misspoken, it would seem, princely one. We meant to say "any town of your choosing". We wished only a port that would be to both our pleasures. If such port is determined by law, then we are content.[/ic]

 [ic=To King Rodonso]
And as our conduct toward Inveran many years ago should prove, we remember who our true fiends are. Otavhy has nothing to fear from the Free Captains. Should you need our aid, we are easily reached.[/ic]
To save myself time, I will never say IMO. Unless I say in fact before something, that means it's my opinion.

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Alea iacta est.


Polycarp

[ic=Prince-Regent Horain to the Free Captains]Indeed, I am not the one who is an invader in these lands.  My ancestors ruled in Beitar long before your people were a people at all; it was the sorrow of my grandfathers that you and your Celenite masters ruled wrongfully in their stead.  I have returned from the long exile of my line and will not stand any attempt to drive the rightful Prince of the Ma'turi back into exile.

I have a dim view of those who serve Celend and then say they had no choice in the matter.  Nevertheless, I am not blind to the value of reconciliation, nor to the value of trade.

When your people attacked Beitar in generations past, you laid waste to its fleet.  My land, though rich in other things, is poor in good timber.  Build me a fleet of worthy galleys to replace the one your ancestors destroyed, and I will consider your debt to Beitar paid, and your ships will be once again allowed to trade in our harbor.[/ic]
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"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aurelius

snakefing

[ic=Grand Warden Malik to Shuruk of the Nem-Ammar]To our brothers of the Nem-Ammar,

Kashtu will defer to the judgment of your Brotherhood. We will negotiate a reasonable agreement to protect our interests in the east if you wish to make peace. If there is to be war, we must all be in it together.

In the meantime, please accept this shipment of food to help raise your next generation of warriors.[/ic]

[ic=Grand Warden Malik to the Despotissa of Kuregn]It seems to be the will of the gods that there should be peace between us at this time.

We remain concerned at the presence of Kuregn troops on our border. We also need a suitable guarantee that you will not find another heretical sect to do your dirty work. Given that your daughters are not of suitable age you must provide an alternative guarantee.

In return, Kashtu will pledge not to attack Kuregn or its forces, or to involve itself in your other conflicts.[/ic]
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snakefing

[ooc]Orders for Kashtu:

Train new troops, preferably hand-to-hand troops (swords or spears as available).
Cadre will train Zur'shuk warriors and priests will study Zur'a language and culture.
Provide shipments of food to Nem-Ammar and other Atur tribes to encourage population recovery.
Place boundary markers expanding the Kashtu zone of protection. Interdict Kuregn forces from this area. Supply trains may pass through only with escort and payment of 10% security tax.
Try to reach a stable compromise on the internal political situation.
Work on marking and improving a road from Kashtu to the Nem-Ammar.

War orders:
Increase security and patrols to ensure that the Despotissa is living up to her promises. Try to force Kuregn supply trains to take the long way around to supply their troops, or else pay heavily for the privilege.
Increased wariness around the Celenite border, understanding that our relations with Kuregn may provoke suspicion and hostility there.[/ooc]
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My Unitarian Jihad name is: The Dagger of the Short Path.
And no, I don't understand it.

Polycarp

[ic=Despotissa Koura to Grand Warden Malik]There is some mistake; it was your "Ammar" that sought my assistance.  I could hardly know whether or not he was "heretical" or whether you were.

Nevertheless, you have my guarantee that my soldiers will stay well clear of the Ma'a.  Some presence in the frontier must remain, of course, as the Atur are notorious for their raiding lifestyle, and a peace agreement must not mean that I abandon the defense of my realm entirely.  You also have my guarantee that neither Kuregnite soldiers, nor weapons, nor supplies will find their way to your people or your land.

As for the matter of an alternative guarantee, I have already offered one - surely you have an heir to your throne who is of a more comparable age to one of my daughters.  Let them be betrothed as my personal guarantee.  Unless, of course, you have a better idea.[/ic]
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"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way." - Marcus Aurelius

snakefing

[ic=Grand Warden Malik to Despotissa Koura]In our lands, our heirs do not inherit the titles of their parents. I know this is different from your lands, but that is how it is done here.

If your daughter were to be betrothed to my son, it would be an acceptable guarantee to me. But you must be aware that my son, as honorable a man as he is, yet he may not succeed to the seat of the Grand Warden. He is a fine young man and I'm sure he will do me proud, but that is just the way of things in Kashtu.

If you would prefer not to promise your kin to such a man for  whatever reason, I will understand. But I will still need some kind of personal guarantee. Perhaps you have a close cousin of marriageable age?[/ic]

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My Unitarian Jihad name is: The Dagger of the Short Path.
And no, I don't understand it.

Polycarp

[ic=Despotissa Koura to Grand Warden Malik]Strange customs you have.  My father died young; I am his only child.  He was a general, unrelated to the Despots before him, and thus the extended family of the previous dynasty has been totally expunged.  My father destroyed his own family records to ensure that only his children would be valid choices for succession.  I am afraid the royal house of Kuregn extends only to me and my three children.

My husband, however, is the Machta's heir, first in line for the throne of the Isles; my son will be heir to both countries.  As our families are joined, perhaps you would be content with a relation of my father-in-law, the Machta?[/ic]
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Locknpop4life

[ooc]orders for Vandire

1. more emphasis on taming and training hippos for use in life

2. establish police force to deal justice

3. explore and establish town/base out in the northwestern grasslands

4. research building materials for houses

5. improve military

6.change archer unit into composite archer unit and send to grasslands base/town[/ooc]
TBC

Tillumni

[ic=to the Strava of Andos]

Then you shall be released from your words, since those were words giving under misunderstood circumstances.

Also, Avardera can not accept the terms that you layed out. no foreign force have been allowed to claim sovereignity over Avarderas land, not the Auri, not the freemen, nor the Machta, and so neither can it be allowed for the Andos, no matter how small an area it is.

Therefor, fight the pirates in your own water, and surely those same pirates will not be able to trouble Avardera either, and Avardera shall do the same in her water, so that those pirates can not sail north and trouble Andos.

May We All Prosper
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