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March 27, 2006, 12:31:21 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Velox121
I've heard that the best way to get people to talk about something, is to ask them a question.

What do you guys think about that?
Quote"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun!" the two said in a statement that seemed to parody Scientology as science fiction. "Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"

Soup Nazi

#1
March 27, 2006, 01:40:22 AM
Open ended questions are the way to go. Anything that requires responses other than yes or no, is bound to get people talking. Very specific questions help too. Things like "How do you feel about democracy as a system of government in a fantasy setting?" (Turin once asked this question, and it inspired a very interesting thread with a great deal of community input)

-Nasty-
The spoon is mightier than the sword

Numinous

#2
March 27, 2006, 08:22:18 AM
Yes, but questions about politics, even if directly applied to a campaign setting, can bore and even alienate some very prominant members from the conversation.
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Soup Nazi

#3
March 27, 2006, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: Natural 20Yes, but questions about politics, even if directly applied to a campaign setting, can bore and even alienate some very prominant members from the conversation.
Since when does discussing systems of goverment alienate world builders? It's central to the very concept of creating a campaign world. Without governments, you don't have nations...

Her'es the link to the very well received thread. It was not boring, nor did it alienate people. Democracy : http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=377393
The spoon is mightier than the sword

Elven Doritos

#4
March 27, 2006, 08:49:59 PM
Quote from: Natural 20Yes, but questions about politics, even if directly applied to a campaign setting, can bore and even alienate some very prominant members from the conversation.

To be honest, I think that you're probably about the only person who feels this way on the boards, besides *maybe* (and I'm probably wrong) or tech people.

Just a thought.

-Elven Doritos
Loves Cookies
Oh, how we danced and we swallowed the night
For it was all ripe for dreaming
Oh, how we danced away all of the lights
We've always been out of our minds
-Tom Waits, Rain Dogs

brainface

#5
March 27, 2006, 08:56:56 PM
QuoteTo be honest, I think that you're probably about the only person who feels this way on the boards, besides *maybe* (and I'm probably wrong) or tech people.
nah, we cool.
"The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire

Elven Doritos

#6
March 27, 2006, 09:04:54 PM
Glad to hear.

So I stand firm in my statement. ;)

:rambo:
Oh, how we danced and we swallowed the night
For it was all ripe for dreaming
Oh, how we danced away all of the lights
We've always been out of our minds
-Tom Waits, Rain Dogs

Numinous

#7
March 27, 2006, 09:45:33 PM
I give, just don't expect me to be posting like crazy.  Politics just aren't my thing, sorry.
Previously: Natural 20, Critical Threat, Rose of Montague
- Currently working on: The Smoking Hills - A bottom-up, seat-of-my-pants, fairy tale adventure!

Soup Nazi

#8
March 27, 2006, 10:53:15 PM
We're not discussing politics. We're discussing government. Politics requires some sort of stance, but government doesn't. Government is just a system of managing a nation. In and of themselves a government has no political alignment what-so-ever.

Discuss it as though it is a system. You go to school with a system that probably has a principle, a vice principle, and teachers. It probably has a union and some seniority, as well as prestige based upon accomplishments (degrees, awards, etc.). There is a government within your school.

-Nasty-
The spoon is mightier than the sword

daggerhart

#9
March 28, 2006, 06:11:16 PM
Quote from: Natural20Yes, but questions about politics, even if directly applied to a campaign setting, can bore and even alienate some very prominant members from the conversation.
I would argue that there is no such thing as a 'very prominant member' of a conversation.    I submit to you that a conversation in the stricted sense is a 'spoken exchange of thoughts, opinions, and feelings; talk'.  And to assume that a conversation would intend to prevent any of these, on any specific subject, is infact against the very character of conversation.  
 by defining specific parts of the conversation as 'more prominent' than others, you're suggesting that you don't actually want conversation.


but if we're talking about politics in dnd, then its probably a whole-nother matter.
Quote"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun!" the two said in a statement that seemed to parody Scientology as science fiction. "Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"

Soup Nazi

#10
March 28, 2006, 06:26:47 PM
Quotei disagree that politics require a stance. politics can be defined in so many different ways that i don't think you could make souch a broad generalization.
For a political discussion to become heated, it requires a stance. If people don't disagree ther will be no trouble.

A system of government in D&D requires no stance pro or con, and thus a heated debate is almost impossible. Kingdom, military dicatorship, matrichal society...none it these fictional (in this case) governments need to be portrayed in a positive or negative light. They are just systems.

The discussion Turin posted about democracy in D&D, did not ever become a discussion of his political beliefs. It was a discussion about how the system could be implimented in D&D.

Does that clairify the intention of my previous post?

-Nate-
The spoon is mightier than the sword

daggerhart

#11
March 29, 2006, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: nastynateFor a political discussion to become heated, it requires a stance. If people don't disagree ther will be no trouble.
[...]

Does that clairify the intention of my previous post?

... yes.

but im not really sure what we're actually taling about . ;).
Quote"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun!" the two said in a statement that seemed to parody Scientology as science fiction. "Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"

Soup Nazi

#12
March 29, 2006, 06:40:14 PM
We're talking about the link I posted to a thread Turin started some time ago about democracy in D&D, and how to make it possible. It was a fantastic thread, that inspired a great deal of discussion.

Nat 20 seemed to think I wanted to talk about politics...he was wrong. I reserve my political discussions for more appropraite boards or IM. Doritos and I have some similar political views, but we've never once brought them up here.

-Peace-
The spoon is mightier than the sword

beejazz

#13
April 19, 2006, 04:17:44 PM
HA- original post had nothing to do with politics. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that asking questions is NOT the best way to get people thinking, but the best way to direct their thoughts. Peoples' motivation for THOUGHT is internal conflict, especially along the lines of boredom and loneliness.
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QuoteI don't believe in it anyway.
What?
England.
Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

Velox

#14
April 20, 2006, 02:40:31 AM
Jesus Marimba! (Hay-ZOOZ Ma-rim-BAH)

Any of you guys know just what the hell that means? I heard the Joker say it once and I've been saying it ever since, with no clue. I know Jesus... but Marimba?
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