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SDragon · September 22, 2008, 08:30:02 PM

I'm trying Xubuntu, but I can't get that to install at all, let alone to get programs on. Kubuntu has some problems, too, although I can't think off the top of my head what they are right now. I'm shying away from Ubuntu and Fedora because, to be perfectly honest, the appearance of GNOME confuses and intimidates me. I'm sure it's quite nice once I get used to it, but it's still too alien to me.

Considering how close Freespire claims to be to Ubuntu, I don't expect Ubuntu to be much better. According to the website, "Freespire 2.0 begins with Ubuntu (Version 7.04) as its baseline and then adds software from six broad categories, further expanding Freespire's capabilities[.]"

brainface · September 23, 2008, 05:45:12 PM

Dude... i don't know. Like... freespire's installion problems are its alone--it uses a package format apparently unique to itself, so if no one's made it in that format, it doesn't exist for freespire.

And Xubuntu isn't hard to install, i've done it like 5 times with no trouble--and i've intalled ubuntu like i don't know a dozen frigg'n times? If you tell me exactly what's causing the problem, I might be able to help?

SDragon · September 23, 2008, 11:08:09 PM

It tells me to select my language (English), then it gives me that initial screen asking me if I want to run it live (why would I, on a virtualized machine?), or if I want to install Xubuntu. Everything is standard up to this point, but once I select an option (any option), it freezes. That's it. I know it's not a bad disc, since I'm running straight from ISO, and not from a disc.

I know it shouldn't be hard to install, and I know this isn't a standard problem. I honestly have no clue what's going on.

By the way, I'm blaming this virtualized version of Freespire for the difficulties, and not Freespire in general. When I was dual-booting Freespire (from the very same Freespire disc I used for this version), I had absolutely no problem at all. I think I had a problem with some obscure DE, and installing NVidia drivers was a little tricky, but other then that, not a single problem.

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Basestandarization in Linux[/url] since making my complaint.

brainface · September 24, 2008, 09:39:20 AM

QuoteThat's it. I know it's not a bad disc, since I'm running straight from ISO, and not from a disc.

absolutely[/i] have a bad iso, and hence a bad (fake) install disk.

Also, what virtualization software are you using? and what version?

SDragon · September 24, 2008, 06:16:34 PM

How do I do that?

Also, I tried changing the graphics drivers in my virtualized Kubuntu install, but now it won't run at all. Is there any way I can run the ISO live to change the graphics drivers back to what they were?

brainface · September 24, 2008, 07:29:42 PM

1: download a program that checks md5sums, and compare it to the md5sum listed at the xubuntu download page. (it should be obvious). finding a windows program that performs md5sums is an exercise left for you and google =D. It'll probably be command line though.

As to kubuntu--what do you mean won't run at all? Does it crash with a lot of error messages when x windows system starts, or are you just getting a black screen?

If you get a bunch of messages, you need to go to the terminal and revert your xorg.conf file (etc/X11/xorg.conf) to where it's not using those drivers. HOPEFULLY there should be a file there called xorg.conf.bak or something.

A black screen probably means you're screwed. :/

SDragon · September 24, 2008, 09:18:37 PM

It starts to load, and gets to a point where it says it's "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)", X tries to load, it goes back to saying it's doing the boot script thing, and it more or less freezes there.

As for the whole md5sum thing, I don't even know what a md5sum thing is...

brainface · September 24, 2008, 10:15:37 PM

dammit my cat just deleted my post. like, how do they fight the exact key to screw everything? every time?!

brainface · September 24, 2008, 10:24:24 PM

you run an md5sum on a file and it generates a long hash that looks like a cd-key. the same file will always generate the same hash. Often sites (apparently not xubuntu.com) list md5sums beside large files. If a bit gets lost on the intertubes, the md5sum you generate on the file won't match the one on the website (because it's a different file, you see?) But let's forget that for now!

I need you to try something: load up your vm, restart it, and hit esc when grub is loading (this is RIGHT after it starts to boot). You'll see a menu of differnt things. select the top-most "recovery mode". wait a bit. select "xfix" from the menu. let it run. select "resume". Let me know if that fixed anything.

SDragon · September 24, 2008, 10:29:10 PM

Ultimately, all I want is to run Kubuntu at a resolution higher then 800x600...

But yes, that did work. Thanks a ton, really!

brainface · September 24, 2008, 10:31:32 PM

if that doesn't work, like, take a screenshot for me? Really though, you're probably better off asking ubuntu/kubuntu forum guys, reinstalling, or giving up in a fit of rage :(

SDragon · September 24, 2008, 11:01:30 PM

But it did work...

SDragon · September 27, 2008, 11:11:34 PM

So now that Kubuntu is running again, is there any way to get the resolution higher then 800x600? I tried the control panel, but it says that's the highest resolution.

I know other virtualized OSes, including at least one distro of Linux, allowed higher resolutions, but Kubuntu and Fedora aren't.

brainface · September 28, 2008, 10:04:11 AM

yeah, it's possible. it's complicated though. (generally, getting nvidia/ati drivers working would enable the resolutions).

I'll work it up in a bit.

edit--damn, xorg.conf doesn't work like it used to. I'm not sure how to enable other resolutions dude. It's definitely a driver/config file issue though, not the distro.

SDragon · September 28, 2008, 11:18:59 AM

That really sucks, because half the stuff anybody does nowadays requires a better resolution... Hell, you can't even use Yahoo Mail at 800x600 anymore...

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