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Started by Loch Belthadd, November 09, 2008, 08:12:34 PM

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Loch Belthadd

November 09, 2008, 08:12:34 PM Last Edit: November 09, 2008, 08:13:04 PM by Nomadic Dwarf
is there a 3.5 feat that lets you dual-wield touch spells? I was playing a Blue Mage and thought it would be cool to have inflict light wounds in one hand and cure light wounds in the other.  :rambo:
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#1
November 09, 2008, 08:22:39 PM
You can do that with Wands, easily enough however I haven't come across any feat that would allow you to do what you are asking.

I checked Realmshelp, which as a comprehensive list of feats but couldn't find any thing :(

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November 09, 2008, 08:27:12 PM
hmmm....CRUNCH TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 09, 2008, 08:51:23 PM
I personally want to cast otto's irresistible dance and hold person on someone at the same time.

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#4
November 09, 2008, 09:30:17 PM
that is EVIL!!! I like it.
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#5
November 10, 2008, 08:06:10 AM
This is an interesting idea.  I'm not sure it would be perfectly "balanced" but if you're playing 3.5 you are probably more intoerested in it being cool and just not super broken than perfectly balanced (and there is NOTHING wrong with that).

I'd say just make it a feat, simple as that.  I would have the prerequisites include a minimum Dexterity and the ability to cast at least two touch spells (I might go with just arcane but you may want arcane or divine).

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#6
November 10, 2008, 12:47:47 PM
I'd make it a full round action, so you can't combine it with Quicken Spell and I would limit the attack to a melee touch attack for spells only (so the Warlock can't abuse it).

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November 10, 2008, 12:50:52 PM
Quote from: Elemental_DwarfI'd make it a full round action, so you can't combine it with Quicken Spell and I would limit the attack to a melee touch attack for spells only (so the Warlock can't abuse it).

I don't see any reason not to make the warlock abuse it; first of all, he lags behind in damage just a bit in later levels anyway (when I assume this hypothetical feat would be available), and he could simply use Hideous Blow anyway.
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November 10, 2008, 12:59:22 PM
Quote from: Pair o' Dice Lost
Quote from: Elemental_DwarfI'd make it a full round action, so you can't combine it with Quicken Spell and I would limit the attack to a melee touch attack for spells only (so the Warlock can't abuse it).

I don't see any reason not to make the warlock abuse it; first of all, he lags behind in damage just a bit in later levels anyway (when I assume this hypothetical feat would be available), and he could simply use Hideous Blow anyway.

Perhaps... As long as the feat is limited to melee touch and takes a full round action, I suppose it isn't broken.

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#9
November 10, 2008, 07:19:21 PM
I was thinking it takes a full round action and counts as casting two spells at once, which takes two spell slots. I was also wondering what do you think would happen if you have two opposite spells in your hands and claped them together? I think it will explode! :D
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November 10, 2008, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Loch BelthaddI was thinking it takes a full round action and counts as casting two spells at once, which takes two spell slots. I was also wondering what do you think would happen if you have two opposite spells in your hands and claped them together? I think it will explode! :D
Back in 2E, didn't they have rules for when you put a bag of holding into another bag of holding? Why not use those rules (for some equally hilarious and horrible results). :)

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November 10, 2008, 08:54:38 PM
Quote from: Elemental_DwarfBack in 2E, didn't they have rules for when you put a bag of holding into another bag of holding? Why not use those rules (for some equally hilarious and horrible results). :)

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November 11, 2008, 02:23:07 AM
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