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Quote from: Llum

Quote from: hijacktotally apologies to the Limetom if this is in anyway hijacking this thread.  Thing were said. [/spoiler].  Because there are serious ramifications, if you look at my first interjection.  No one is talking about supporting anyone, this isn't taxpayer money or a dole-out.  It's not that people have to get a job, it's that they are not being paid for the job they did.  Writing a book or publishing a set of rules is as much a job and is as much work as anything else is, and Nomadic's comment says nothing about other people supporting them, it deals with the ramifications of theft.  

I am not, at this point, going to get into the philosophies of civilization in a thread about a particular company's lack of business acumen or customer service.  Suffice it to say that a marketplace, any marketplace, and the growth of that economy, is dependent on the ability for fair recompense for labors and services rendered.  
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Much love to Llum, Nomadic, SD, and the rest.  I'm sure this is not an argument as much as it is a stating of positions.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Lord VreegBecause there are serious ramifications, if you look at my first interjection.  No one is talking about supporting anyone, this isn't taxpayer money or a dole-out.  It's not that people have to get a job, it's that they are not being paid for the job they did.  Writing a book or publishing a set of rules is as much a job and is as much work as anything else is, and Nomadic's comment says nothing about other people supporting them, it deals with the ramifications of theft.

Quote from: much loveMuch love to Llum, Nomadic, SD, and the rest.  I'm sure this is not an argument as much as it is a stating of positions.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Llum

Quote from: hijacktotally apologies to the Limetom if this is in anyway hijacking this thread.  Thing were said. [/spoiler].

Because there are serious ramifications, if you look at my first interjection.  No one is talking about supporting anyone, this isn't taxpayer money or a dole-out.  It's not that people have to get a job, it's that they are not being paid for the job they did.  Writing a book or publishing a set of rules is as much a job and is as much work as anything else is, and Nomadic's comment says nothing about other people supporting them, it deals with the ramifications of theft.  

I am not, at this point, going to get into the philosophies of civilization in a thread about a particular company's lack of business acumen or customer service.  Suffice it to say that a marketplace, any marketplace, and the growth of that economy, is dependent on the ability for fair recompense for labors and services rendered.  

[spoiler=much love]Much love to Llum, Nomadic, SD, and the rest.  I'm sure this is not an argument as much as it is a stating of positions.[/spoiler]

Yes I was pretty much giving my point of view. I honestly forgot how much of a hot-button issue "bailout/support" and stuff like that is in the states at this time, ignorant of me? Probably a little. I didn't mean to imply that others were automatically the government with taxpayer money, I meant anyone at all, friends, family, etc...

I'm also not saying that what these people did wasn't a job, I'm well aware how much effort it takes to actually produce something, especially if it is of quality.

What I was trying to get across was that, if you cannot support yourself with your "art" you still, at the end of the day, have to support yourself somehow. Because as of this point in time, we cannot stop people from downloading and sharing files, so its just something people have to work around.