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A Funny review of Wolverine! (contains SPOILERS!)

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Quote from: JharvissOn the Cyclops note, they needed to kill him off.  Nobody liked him, so he was better off dead.

Let's differentiate a dislike of the Actor and a dislike of the Character. Cyclops is awesome. The actor? Not so much.

Harsh reviews, here. I liked it. I didn't love it, but I liked it.

I'll try to throw a rating for it on the wiki if nobody beats me to it.

Edit: Oh, and there's buzz about a Deadpool spinoff. [spoiler]Hope they tune down his powers. Even Wolverine movies are iffy because he's so unstoppable.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=unstoppable]Re:Wolverine: I don't think the powerset is unstoppable, I think he's unstoppable because of his protagonist-shields. Really, WHY can he withstand phoenix-disentegration? Why didn't phoenix just hold him helpless in middair? Because he's a baddass protagonist, not because of his power-set.

There's a lot of things that could hypothetically stop him, like i don't know a mud-pit, drowning, things that limit his mobility; but they're not used because it's much cooler to see him walking thru explosions and bullets. Of course I haven't seen the movie, it could be 2 hours of logan trapped in wet concrete for all i know. :)[/spoiler]

Healing Factor. Depending on how powerful any given writer makes this, yes, it is indeed his power set that makes him unstoppable. The dude's practically immortal.

I always thought Wolverine could sustain a ton of damage but could never regenerate anything beyond a minor injury to his brain.

First of all I must say I am not a big fan of x-men or any other superhero movies (except the tv show Heroes, I love that show) but i just saw Wolverine yesterday, and I really enjoyed it.

  But the holes in the movie were obvious to even me, and I never even tried to read the comics or payed much attention to the other three x-men movies, so that must mean its pretty bad for die hard fans.

Quote from: Elemental_ElfI always thought Wolverine could sustain a ton of damage but could never regenerate anything beyond a minor injury to his brain.

Didn't he get shot in the head in one of the movies from the trilogy?
But i agree that immortality is sort of boring...

Quote from: Cataclysmic Crow

Quote from: Elemental_ElfI always thought Wolverine could sustain a ton of damage but could never regenerate anything beyond a minor injury to his brain.

Didn't he get shot in the head in one of the movies from the trilogy?
But i agree that immortality is sort of boring...

He most likely did... However, from the sounds of it, this movie made Wolverine's power creep palpable.

He was shot in the second movie, but his adamantine skull normally protects his brain.

Quote from: JharvissHe was shot in the second movie, but his adamantine skull normally protects his brain.

Hmm, how does one kill Wolverine? You can't really chop his head off Highlander style since his spine is also adimantium... I suppose you could deprive him of Oxygen but that's lack luster and boring... I guess you could melt  all his flesh off with an acid chucker or burn it off with a flame thrower... You could rip the adimantium out of his body Magneto style...

Meh, Wolverine's healing power went from cool to needlessly powerful.

Ripping his adamantium out wouldn't kill him, but it probably would be a good start. See, this is part of why I insist that in a fight against Batman, Wolverine would win:

1.) Unlike Batman, Wolverine would fight until one or both of them were dead.

2.) Wolverine can't die.

Even without the adamantium, that gives Wolvie a HUGE advantage over Bats.


That said, I still think Wolverine, when done right, is an incredibly compelling character. I just don't think that because of his power set; I think it because of his incredibly tortured past, and his terminally unfulfilled desire of a quiet life, free of Sabertooth, Magneto, etc. I think that's where the true conflict in the character lies.

QuoteHmm, how does one kill Wolverine? You can't really chop his head off Highlander style since his spine is also adimantium... I suppose you could deprive him of Oxygen but that's lack luster and boring... I guess you could melt all his flesh off with an acid chucker or burn it off with a flame thrower... You could rip the adimantium out of his body Magneto style...

Meh, Wolverine's healing power went from cool to needlessly powerful.

I vote wet concrete. But basically any circumstance where "i can cut anything and heal anything!" doesn't matter.

I feel like this conversation on how to kill Wolverine will be akin to many of the conversations I've read about how to kill a tarrasque.  

I have issues with Wolverine's character on a variety of levels, but one of my biggest issues is the fact that his godmode power plays against most people's issues with godmode powers. I know a lot of people who get frustrated with Phoenix- or Apocalypse-type characters because they're unstoppable.  This isn't so bad as enemies, but as heroes, it's the worst.  Who here likes superman, and for those of you who don't, is it because he's too powerful?

My issue with Wolverine is that he's a superman character, but his abilities only irritate us in the logical way, not the emotional.  When we see him being torn to shreds and shot at and everything else, our emotions see him as vulnerable and able to be killed.  Our logical side, of course, knows otherwise.  

I'm just saying I don't like Wolverine because he's a godmode, superhero-esque character and not many people realize it.

[blockquote=jHARVISS]I'm just saying I don't like Wolverine because he's a godmode, superhero-esque character and not many people realize it[/blockquote]
Much in line with many posts in other threads in the past, But said somewhat differently...

I liked the concept and character of Wolverine for quite a while.  But the continual power creep that writers have been unable to resist the temptation for has totally turned me off to him.  I understand that when you create something that is not owned by youself (as comic-book, tv, and movie writers do), you run the risk of it going off in directions you do not expect.  And the longer it stays popular, the more that writers want to put their own stamp on it and the ownership wants to cash in.
Anyone can read the history, so I won't go into that.  But while I liked  many of the layers that writers added to his past, such as the incredibly slow and subtle way his time in Japan was revealed in the comic books, this power creep makes him less human and accessble.  

I think Wolverine's much more interesting after his amnesia, when he (and the audience) know far less about his powers and limits.  Like, when you watch X-Men 1 (which I did yesterday, man what a good movie), if you don't know a ton about the character, then when the barkeeper puts a shotgun to Wolverine's head, we're actually quite nervous about it.  When Rogue tells him she saved his life and he replies "no you didn't" we actually begin to wonder about his powers and his limitations.

[spoiler]Versus in X-Men: Origins, where in the opening credits we see both Wolverine and Sabretooth getting shot in the first few minutes of the film...[/spoiler]