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Started by Elemental_Elf, March 22, 2009, 03:36:14 AM

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Ishmayl-Retired

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For finite types, like human beings, getting the mind around the concept of infinity is tough going.  Apparently, the same is true for cows.

Superfluous Crow

... isn't that actually sort of a good thing for Xykon considering that no one will ever find it?
Or are there some half-hidden facts about not hiding your phylactery too far away?
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Ishmayl-Retired

Well, it should give the OotS a new dungeon crawl soon :)

As far as the "not far away," I don't know all the details and specs on phylacteries, but I know in the FR novels (where liches were common villains), the phylacteries were never kept on the person, and were usually hidden in a dungeon, even when the lich was out and about.  So there didn't seem to be much of a limit to distance then.
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For finite types, like human beings, getting the mind around the concept of infinity is tough going.  Apparently, the same is true for cows.

Superfluous Crow

I'm not sure how interesting a long sewer-based dungeon crawl could be, but then again, Dorukan's dungeon was pretty much just bland rooms (except for the really odd ones) and that turned out pretty well. We'll see :)
Currently...
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Watching: Farscape and Arrested Development

SDragon

IIRC, a destroyed lich regenerates near the phylactery. I don't think there's any restriction to how far they can get from it, though.

It's good for Xycon in that it's well hidden, but might be a tad inconvenient when he regenerates. Or maybe it'll be good for that, too.
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Currently...
Writing: Broken Verge v. 207
Reading: the Black Sea: a History by Charles King
Watching: Farscape and Arrested Development

Superfluous Crow

Also, do you think the devils might collect on their debts next time the party is at full strength facing Xykon? (thus making V help Xykon in the battle)
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SDragon

Quote from: Cataclysmic CrowSo to find it... he just has to kill himself!
... brilliant

Right, but unless Rich allows magically disfigured halflings, I think Xycon would prefer just waiting it out over a suicide that leads to a 66.6~% chance of ending up in a sewer. Besides, as long as he needs to wind up destroyed, why not cause some serious damage with a kamikaze attack?
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last poster in the dragons den for over 24 hours award
Commandant-General of the Honor Guard in Service of Nonsensical Awards.
operating system
stealer of limetom's sanity
top of the tavern award


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MM 3.5
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Ebberon Campaign Setting
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Aztecs: Empire of the Dying Sun
Encyclopaedia Divine: Shamans
D20 Modern

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Other Systems:

Marvel Universe RPG
MURPG Guide to the X-Men
MURPG Guide to the Hulk and the Avengers
Battle-Scarred Veterans Go Hiking
Champions Worldwide

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Corn
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Walrus
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Elemental_Elf


Elemental_Elf

Quote from: Cataclysmic Crow... isn't that actually sort of a good thing for Xykon considering that no one will ever find it?
Or are there some half-hidden facts about not hiding your phylactery too far away?

You always want your Phylactery hidden but always where you know it's safe. The best plans I've read about involve cutting a mountain in half, making a hallow 5x5 chamber made of pure adamantine, stocking up this room with tons of extra scrolls (especially teleporting ones) as well as some extra clothes. You then put a ton of abjurations on the chamber, including ones that prevent teleporting in, scrying of and destruction of the Chamber. Then you put the top half of the mountain back on and pretend like you were never there at all.

If you leave the Phylactery out in the middle of no where, there's always the chance something or someone will find it and have more than enough time to destroy it.

Nomadic

The good thing for the heroes is that there is now no longer an epic lich protecting it.

Elemental_Elf

Quote from: NomadicThe good thing for the heroes is that there is now no longer an epic lich protecting it.

Though knowing the Giant, there is now an epic level Kraken guarding the phylactery... in its belly...

Nomadic

Quote from: Elemental_Elf
Quote from: NomadicThe good thing for the heroes is that there is now no longer an epic lich protecting it.

Though knowing the Giant, there is now an epic level Kraken guarding the phylactery... in its belly...

just send in the scruffinator

Elemental_Elf

Quote from: Nomadic
Quote from: Elemental_Elf
Quote from: NomadicThe good thing for the heroes is that there is now no longer an epic lich protecting it.

Though knowing the Giant, there is now an epic level Kraken guarding the phylactery... in its belly...

just send in the scruffinator

I'd rather send in the Belkanator!

Nomadic

Quote from: Elemental_Elf
Quote from: Nomadic
Quote from: Elemental_Elf
Quote from: NomadicThe good thing for the heroes is that there is now no longer an epic lich protecting it.

Though knowing the Giant, there is now an epic level Kraken guarding the phylactery... in its belly...

just send in the scruffinator

I'd rather send in the Belkanator!


doesn't he come with the scruffinator